Zimmerman vs. DMX - Boxing Match?

[rdsrds2120]

How do you guys not know this?

That photo of the guy on the right isn't the Trayvon that was killed. Here's a couple links:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/235 ... ent-person
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz- ... ts_article

Yesterday a right-leaning website called Twitchy ran a picture of George Zimmerman in a suit and tie next to what they claimed was a picture of Trayvon Martin with no shirt and sagging pants. Twitchy is owned and operated by Michelle Malkin, a conservative pundit who is a frequent guest on Fox News. The picture of Zimmerman was real, but the picture of Martin was not. After Eric Boehlert, senior fellow at the left-leaning organization Media Matters, tweeted a screenshot of the article Twitchy posted the following correction:

“Correction, 8:56 pm ET March 25, 2012: We made a mistake. The photo on the right is not of the Trayvon Martin who was shot by Zimmerman. We apologize to our readers and to the Martin family.”

I told Phatscotty this a couple nights ago in LC. I guess it's more convenient to ignore it.

-rd

[Symmetry]

He knows, I've called him out on it too. As has SaxiToxin.

His response, ever the dodge king, is here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=167549&start=270#p3663563

[rdsrds2120]

He knows, I've called him out on it too. As has SaxiToxin.

His response, ever the dodge king, is here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=167549&start=270#p3663563

I don't...wait, what?

-rd

[Symmetry]

He knows, I've called him out on it too. As has SaxiToxin.

His response, ever the dodge king, is here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=167549&start=270#p3663563

I don't...wait, what?

-rd

Yeah Saxi posted it a few days ago- same link even. But he's still posting the pictures. Scroll up from the link for Saxi's post.

[natty dread]

Due to huge public interest, we're now playing reruns of The Best of the Dodge King!

Another article that shows clearly where phatscotty's rhetoric is coming from:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/0 ... 1995-2012/

Over the last 48 hours, there has been a sustained effort to smear Trayvon Martin, the 17-year old African-American who was shot dead by George Zimmerman a month ago. Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, said, “They killed my son, now they’re trying to kill his reputation.”

Thus far these attacks have fallen into two categories: false and irrelevant. Much of this leaked information seems intended to play into stereotypes about young African-American males. Here’s what everyone should know:

1. Prominent conservative websites published fake photos of Martin. Twitchy, a new website run by prominent conservative blogger Michelle Malkin, promoted a photo — purportedly from Martin’s Facebook page — that shows Martin in saggy pants and flipping the bird. The photo, which spread quickly on conservative websites and Twitter, is intended to paint Martin as a thug. As Twitchy later acknowledged, it is not a photo of Trayvon Martin. [Examiner]

2. The Sanford Police selectively leaked irrelevant, negative information about Martin. The authorities told the Orlando Sentinel this morning that Trayvon was suspended from school for ten days “after being found with an empty marijuana baggie.” There is no evidence that Martin was under the influence of drugs at the time of his death, nor would prior possession of marijuana be a reason for killing him. It’s unclear what the relevance of the leak was, other than to smear Martin. [Orlando Sentinel]

3. On Fox News, Geraldo said that Martin was dressed “like a wannabe gangster.” Bill O’Reilly agreed with him. The sole evidence is that Martin was wearing a hoodie. Geraldo added that “everyone that ever stuck up a convenience store” was wearing a hoodie. [ThinkProgress; The Blaze]

4. Without any evidence, prominent right-wing bloggers suggested that Martin was a drug dealer. Right-wing blogger Dan Riehl advances the theory, also advanced in a widely linked peice on a site called Wagist. There does not appear to be any evidence to support this claim whatsoever. [Riehl World View]

5. Without any evidence, a right-wing columnist alleged that Martin assaulted a bus driver. Unlike Zimmerman, Trayvon has no documented history of violence. This allegation continues to be advanced by a blogger on the Examiner even after the real reason was leaked to the police and confirmed by the family. [Miami Herald; Examiner]

6. Zimmerman’s friend says Martin was to blame because he was disrespectful to Zimmerman. Zimmerman’s friend Joe Oliver said that Martin would not have been shot to death if Trayvon had just said “I’m staying with my parents.” Of course, Zimmerman was not a police officer, and Trayvon had no duty to tell him who he was or where he was going. [NBC News]

The final part of the effort to smear Trayvon Martin is to link him and his supporters to irresponsible fringe groups like the New Black Panthers and marginal provocateurs like Louis Farrakhan. Threats by these groups are serious and should be investigated, but they have nothing to do with Martin or his supporters. The leader of the effort to associate Martin with these groups is Matt Drudge. You can see how he is framing the story today here.

Ultimately, whether Martin was a perfect person is irrelevant to whether Zimmerman’s conduct that night was justified. Clearly, there are two different versions of the events that transpired on February 26, the night Trayvon was killed. There are conflicting statements by witnesses and conflicting evidence as to who was the aggressor. Zimmerman has the right to tell his side of the story. But his opportunity to do this will come in a court of law after he is charged and arrested. In the meantime, Zimmerman’s supporters should stop trying to smear the reputation of a dead, 17-year-old boy.

Or, this is just more shit made up when negative parts of the truth come out and you don't like it. The truth is not always positive and full of positive things, and it's usually quite negative to at least someone involved.

I liked number 6 though. I think it is true that Trayvon would very likely still be alive to day if he said "I'm a guest at my Dads, Mr Martin."

For all the crazy responses this simple post will likely get, I didn't say or imply that Trayvon was under any authority or obligation to answer the question of why he was in that community, and totally has the right to remain silent if he wants to, and get even respond "You feeling froggish fool? JUMP!".

So I will pre-emptively say it another way. If he were polite, not racially profiling, or just courteous, or just even the eeniest teeniest bit co-operative in the simplest of forms, I really do think he would probably be still be alive.

[Phatscotty]

Apparently, anyone who is black is now a gangster. Thanks for clearing that up, phatso.

No, you disgusting race-baiting harasser..... just the one person I was talking about

[Phatscotty]

How do you guys not know this?

That photo of the guy on the right isn't the Trayvon that was killed. Here's a couple links:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/235 ... ent-person
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz- ... ts_article

Yesterday a right-leaning website called Twitchy ran a picture of George Zimmerman in a suit and tie next to what they claimed was a picture of Trayvon Martin with no shirt and sagging pants. Twitchy is owned and operated by Michelle Malkin, a conservative pundit who is a frequent guest on Fox News. The picture of Zimmerman was real, but the picture of Martin was not. After Eric Boehlert, senior fellow at the left-leaning organization Media Matters, tweeted a screenshot of the article Twitchy posted the following correction:

“Correction, 8:56 pm ET March 25, 2012: We made a mistake. The photo on the right is not of the Trayvon Martin who was shot by Zimmerman. We apologize to our readers and to the Martin family.”

I told Phatscotty this a couple nights ago in LC. I guess it's more convenient to ignore it.

-rd

I do know this. I have already addressed this before. You guys are confused. Bedub posted the incorrect picture, and you guys are saying I posted it? How ironic eh?

How do you guys not know you are talking to the wrong person?

These are the correct pictures

[Symmetry]

How do you guys not know this?

That photo of the guy on the right isn't the Trayvon that was killed. Here's a couple links:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/235 ... ent-person
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz- ... ts_article

Yesterday a right-leaning website called Twitchy ran a picture of George Zimmerman in a suit and tie next to what they claimed was a picture of Trayvon Martin with no shirt and sagging pants. Twitchy is owned and operated by Michelle Malkin, a conservative pundit who is a frequent guest on Fox News. The picture of Zimmerman was real, but the picture of Martin was not. After Eric Boehlert, senior fellow at the left-leaning organization Media Matters, tweeted a screenshot of the article Twitchy posted the following correction:

“Correction, 8:56 pm ET March 25, 2012: We made a mistake. The photo on the right is not of the Trayvon Martin who was shot by Zimmerman. We apologize to our readers and to the Martin family.”

I told Phatscotty this a couple nights ago in LC. I guess it's more convenient to ignore it.

-rd

I do know this. I have already addressed that before. You guys are confused

How do you guys not know you are talking to the wrong person?

My fault on this one, just bedub is kinda racist and doesn't acknowledge this stuff, and you usually just dodge it, like I posted. At this point I think we can both acknowledge that I was wrong, and that Bedub is, at best, massively ignorant.

[Phatscotty]

Let's see if Natty has half the class that Symmetry does.

[Symmetry]

Let's see if Natty has half the class that Symmetry does.

Oh dude, I still hold you way in the wrong for that post. Not as much as Bedub, who should really know better, but still...

[Phatscotty]

Let's see if Natty has half the class that Symmetry does.

Oh dude, I still hold you way in the wrong for that post. Not as much as Bedub, who should really know better, but still...

have you forgotten already that it wasn't even my post?

[Symmetry]

Let's see if Natty has half the class that Symmetry does.

Oh dude, I still hold you way in the wrong for that post. Not as much as Bedub, who should really know better, but still...

have you forgotten already that it wasn't even my post?

More like I remembered your previous post, and haven't forgotten your reply.

[Phatscotty]

Let's see if Natty has half the class that Symmetry does.

Oh dude, I still hold you way in the wrong for that post. Not as much as Bedub, who should really know better, but still...

have you forgotten already that it wasn't even my post?

More like I remembered your previous post, and haven't forgotten your reply.

So, if the fake picture shows someone being gangsta and the real picture shows someone being gangsta....how does that change the statement regardless of which picture I would be talking about?

I see how it looks like I was responding to Bedub's post, doesn't mean that I did. You aren't profiling me here are you?

[Phatscotty]

Apparently, anyone who is black is now a gangster. Thanks for clearing that up, phatso.

Why don't you try wrapping your head around "Anyone who is trying to look like a gangster.....looks like a gangster?"

Or is that too complicated?

[Symmetry]

Let's see if Natty has half the class that Symmetry does.

Oh dude, I still hold you way in the wrong for that post. Not as much as Bedub, who should really know better, but still...

have you forgotten already that it wasn't even my post?

More like I remembered your previous post, and haven't forgotten your reply.

So, if the fake picture shows someone being gangsta and the real picture shows someone being gangsta....how does that change the statement regardless of which picture I would be talking about?

Meh, I think there's a point where you can say you're wrong. I think you actively avoid that point, and why you got your reputation as the dodge king. I don't think that apologizing would cost you as much as you think it would. I think it would improve your rep. Personally, you know I have a love/hate relationship. The hate bit, you never admit when you're wrong, I kind of think you see it as defeat if you admit it, and just double down, ask someone else for an apology, or ignore it entirely.

Dude, own up, say you messed up, and carry on with what you believe.

[Phatscotty]

yeah, right Symm. Here I am, responding to every BS thing you say here, thats exactly what a dodge king would do.

He was trying to look gangster. He succeeded. That is all

Where did I mess up? LOL, when Bedub posted the wrong picture?

[Symmetry]

yeah, right Symm. Here I am, responding to every BS thing you say here, thats exactly what a dodge king would do.

He was trying to look gangster. He succeeded. That is all

Where did I mess up? LOL, when Bedub posted the wrong picture?

Oh god, the big question, do I have to start from page 1? Or should I repost where you made the exact same mistake, but refused to admit it? Dude you're not some Bedub Happyface bigot, so don't LOL me. You got it wrong, and that's that.

[Phatscotty]

yeah, right Symm. Here I am, responding to every BS thing you say here, thats exactly what a dodge king would do.

He was trying to look gangster. He succeeded. That is all

Where did I mess up? LOL, when Bedub posted the wrong picture?

Oh god, the big question, do I have to start from page 1? Or should I repost where you made the exact same mistake, but refused to admit it? Dude you're not some Bedub Happyface bigot, so don't LOL me. You got it wrong, and that's that.

Ohhhh, I get it. You are angry because it looked like I responded to the fake double middle finger thug life photograph? Symm, you should know better than to judge something by how it looks, cuz you might be wrong. (you are wrong here)

Ohhhhh, I'm so sorry, how incorrect! Let me try again....using the real double middle finger + gold grills thug life photograph (makes all the difference!)



How dare anyone look at that and "profile" him is a gangster? Aren't we supposed to ignore what we see and refrain from making a first impression based on our experience, because there is the possibility our impression might be incorrect? Oh, the horror!

Better?

[Symmetry]

No, slightly more obviously bigoted, but not better.

[Phatscotty]

No, slightly more obviously bigoted, but not better.

oh, does that picture not look gangster to you? What do you think he is trying to achieve? Is he saying hello to his grandma on Skype?

[Symmetry]

No, slightly more obviously bigoted, but not better.

oh, does that picture not look gangster to you? What do you think he is trying to achieve? Is he saying hello to his grandma on Skype?

Honestly, and if we are being honest, he looks like a kid.

[patches70]

No, slightly more obviously bigoted, but not better.

oh, does that picture not look gangster to you? What do you think he is trying to achieve? Is he saying hello to his grandma on Skype?

Honestly, and if we are being honest, he looks like a kid.

Yes a kid that appears not to make the wisest of decisions, as such young people are all too often prone.

I wonder, can you see circumstances in which one person who isn't too quick on the uptake, meeting another person who isn't too quick on the uptake and the two through a series of very unfortunate misconceptions could lead to something that ends up tragic?

And if you could see that, could you then acknowledge that had either of the two people, who neither appear to be the brightest bulb on the tree, had either made even slightly different decisions the entire tragic end could have been avoided?

And if you could see that, and that if either one of them had made different choices, then could you acknowledge that it is quite possible that both share equal responsibility for ending up in that tragic circumstance?

Just wondering is all.

[Phatscotty]

No, slightly more obviously bigoted, but not better.

oh, does that picture not look gangster to you? What do you think he is trying to achieve? Is he saying hello to his grandma on Skype?

Honestly, and if we are being honest, he looks like a kid.

Does he look like a kid giving the thumbs up sign? Or giving the "f*ck you" sign. Or, are you being incredibly dishonest right now?

"Oh, just a kid, with gold grills (like all normal kids), giving the thug life f*ck the world sign(like all normal 6'2 17 year old "kids"" Yeah symm, okay...You aren't fooling anyone with your bullshit.

The word is out in America about how the media bullshitted everybody. You can stop portraying him as a toddler now.

[natty dread]

Phatscotty,

Do you hate all black people, or do you just want to be allowed to shoot them at will without punishment?

[Symmetry]

No, slightly more obviously bigoted, but not better.

oh, does that picture not look gangster to you? What do you think he is trying to achieve? Is he saying hello to his grandma on Skype?

Honestly, and if we are being honest, he looks like a kid.

Does he look like a kid giving the thumbs up sign? Or giving the "f*ck you" sign. Or, are you being incredibly dishonest right now?

"Oh, just a kid, with gold grills (like all normal kids), giving the thug life f*ck the world sign(like all normal 6'2 17 year old "kids"" Yeah symm, okay...You aren't fooling anyone with your bullshit.

The word is out in America about how the media bullshitted everybody. You can stop portraying him as a toddler now.

Meh, I could say something, point out the problems, but I give up.