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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:43 am

This thread makes a nice afternoon read...(It might answer some of the silly questions being posed too!)
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby GoranZ on Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:57 pm

If your logic dictates that there is god... you have problems with your logic, its faulty ;)
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:56 pm

GoranZ wrote:If your logic dictates that there is god... you have problems with your logic, its faulty ;)



Said the great, great, great, great, great, great, great ,great, great grandson of an orangutang. ;)
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby GoranZ on Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:39 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:If your logic dictates that there is god... you have problems with your logic, its faulty ;)



Said the great, great, great, great, great, great, great ,great, great grandson of an orangutang. ;)

You got that wrong... completely.
I have no orangutan as my ancestor... but we probably have same ancestors dating millions of years ago.

Only noneducated men like you say that humans originate from orangutans... But I dont mind, evolution will effectively correct the mistake. After all those with logic will survive ;)
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:46 am

GoranZ wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:If your logic dictates that there is god... you have problems with your logic, its faulty ;)



Said the great, great, great, great, great, great, great ,great, great grandson of an orangutang. ;)

You got that wrong... completely.
I have no orangutan as my ancestor... but we probably have same ancestors dating millions of years ago.

Only noneducated men like you say that humans originate from orangutans... But I dont mind, evolution will effectively correct the mistake. After all those with logic will survive ;)



Love how you guys keep changing the rules to try and plug all the holes. I used orangutang because it sounded funnier than "apes". Now, when I was in school they had this chart of an ape......... "evolving" into a man......... their concept of evolution. NOW, you want to distance yourself from said chart because you can't fix all the holes in this concept. Give up. God is!



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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby notyou2 on Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:51 am

jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:If your logic dictates that there is god... you have problems with your logic, its faulty ;)



Said the great, great, great, great, great, great, great ,great, great grandson of an orangutang. ;)

You got that wrong... completely.
I have no orangutan as my ancestor... but we probably have same ancestors dating millions of years ago.

Only noneducated men like you say that humans originate from orangutans... But I dont mind, evolution will effectively correct the mistake. After all those with logic will survive ;)



Love how you guys keep changing the rules to try and plug all the holes. I used orangutang because it sounded funnier than "apes". Now, when I was in school they had this chart of an ape......... "evolving" into a man......... their concept of evolution. NOW, you want to distance yourself from said chart because you can't fix all the holes in this concept. Give up. God is DEAD!


I completed your sentence for you Jay. Hope you don't mind.
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:06 am

notyou2 wrote:
I completed your sentence for you Jay. Hope you don't mind.




http://youtu.be/ghC3gqNQJPQ Hope you don't mind.... =D>
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby notyou2 on Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:03 am

Evangelical propaganda.
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby The Bison King on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:10 pm

Obviosly you DIDN'T put aside your bias. The poll has NOTHING to do with the logic of life's orgin. Keep spewing insults there..I've been called worse by better.

primordial ooze???? What is this star trek?

You can't refute a single thing in the original post! You are hell bent on the non-existence of God. Maybe if you simply pondered the orgin of life you'd see that SCIENCE does not have the answer!

Evolution my friend is an imposibility.... Science teaches the ability to SPEAK is a LEARNED behavior! Who then taught the apes to speak? and not just 1 language but hundreds of them????

Furthermore if evolution is always happening WHY do we not see it all around us??? Perhaps a bird with gills or a lizard with feathers?? Even a single fossil of a gekko growing a wing bone! EVOLUTION IS A LIE.... much like the drivel you posted.


Look, I don't know why I clicked on this thread. Obviously it's too long to read the whole thing at this point, so I only read the first page. I'm hoping this is a troll thread, but given that it's gone on well over 200 pages I'm assuming there's at least someone here really believes this shit. Any way I figure I could try and debate you like an adult, but clearly people have been doing that for a while. So I'll just go ahead, and say (mostly for myself)...

WOW!!! you're an idiot. If you really believe this shit, you're a fucking moron! You clearly don't know shit about dick. Especially the stuff highlighted in red. Those 2 paragraphs, go to show that you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.

"Languages exist... therefore God"

Holy fucking shit. You are Dumb. Read a book. Or just die. Actually just die. Please die. Preferably in a fire.

and in case you were trolling, please die anyway.

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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:10 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:If your logic dictates that there is god... you have problems with your logic, its faulty ;)



Said the great, great, great, great, great, great, great ,great, great grandson of an orangutang. ;)

You got that wrong... completely.
I have no orangutan as my ancestor... but we probably have same ancestors dating millions of years ago.

Only noneducated men like you say that humans originate from orangutans... But I dont mind, evolution will effectively correct the mistake. After all those with logic will survive ;)



Love how you guys keep changing the rules to try and plug all the holes. I used orangutang because it sounded funnier than "apes". Now, when I was in school they had this chart of an ape......... "evolving" into a man......... their concept of evolution. NOW, you want to distance yourself from said chart because you can't fix all the holes in this concept. Give up. God is!

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And you could have a similar chart that starts with the same ancestor (if indeed that first ape is pre-split between the two) that leads to an orangutan.

You do know that, like squares, all orangutans are apes but not all apes are orangutans, right?

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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby The Bison King on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:18 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
GoranZ wrote:If your logic dictates that there is god... you have problems with your logic, its faulty ;)



Said the great, great, great, great, great, great, great ,great, great grandson of an orangutang. ;)

You got that wrong... completely.
I have no orangutan as my ancestor... but we probably have same ancestors dating millions of years ago.

Only noneducated men like you say that humans originate from orangutans... But I dont mind, evolution will effectively correct the mistake. After all those with logic will survive ;)



Love how you guys keep changing the rules to try and plug all the holes. I used orangutang because it sounded funnier than "apes". Now, when I was in school they had this chart of an ape......... "evolving" into a man......... their concept of evolution. NOW, you want to distance yourself from said chart because you can't fix all the holes in this concept. Give up. God is!



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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:45 pm

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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:49 pm

The Bison King wrote:
Look, I don't know why I clicked on this thread. Obviously it's too long to read the whole thing at this point, so I only read the first page. I'm hoping this is a troll thread, but given that it's gone on well over 200 pages I'm assuming there's at least someone here really believes this shit. Any way I figure I could try and debate you like an adult, but clearly people have been doing that for a while. So I'll just go ahead, and say (mostly for myself)...

WOW!!! you're an idiot. If you really believe this shit, you're a fucking moron! You clearly don't know shit about dick. Especially the stuff highlighted in red. Those 2 paragraphs, go to show that you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.

"Languages exist... therefore God"

Holy fucking shit. You are Dumb. Read a book. Or just die. Actually just die. Please die. Preferably in a fire.

and in case you were trolling, please die anyway.

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Language exists therefore we did not evolve. God existing, albeit true, is really a side argument. ;)

The missing link. Something, somewhere on the face of the earth that is in MID-EVOLUTION???? Does not exist because we no not evolve. :-$
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby The Bison King on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:58 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
The Bison King wrote:
Look, I don't know why I clicked on this thread. Obviously it's too long to read the whole thing at this point, so I only read the first page. I'm hoping this is a troll thread, but given that it's gone on well over 200 pages I'm assuming there's at least someone here really believes this shit. Any way I figure I could try and debate you like an adult, but clearly people have been doing that for a while. So I'll just go ahead, and say (mostly for myself)...

WOW!!! you're an idiot. If you really believe this shit, you're a fucking moron! You clearly don't know shit about dick. Especially the stuff highlighted in red. Those 2 paragraphs, go to show that you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.

"Languages exist... therefore God"

Holy fucking shit. You are Dumb. Read a book. Or just die. Actually just die. Please die. Preferably in a fire.

and in case you were trolling, please die anyway.

-TBK



Language exists therefore we did not evolve. God existing, albeit true, is really a side argument. ;)

The missing link. Something, somewhere on the face of the earth that is in MID-EVOLUTION???? Does not exist because we no not evolve. :-$

False. Language itself evolved. Take english for example. Old english is unrecognizable to modern day english speakers. This is because it changed, adapted and adopted bits and pieces of other languages over a long period of time. English wasn't simply created. Nor was Language, nor were humans, nor was life.
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:00 pm

The Bison King wrote: Nor was Language, nor were humans, nor was life.

Your nor chain is a snore chain! I mean, am I right or am I right. Or am I right. Right. Right right right.




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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:03 pm

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Watch this... I don't actually want you to die.


Interesting. But if what he says is true "We did not evolve from one species to another", than man either has always existed or something created man in its current form NOT derived from another species! Which can be the only logical conclusion! :shock:
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby The Bison King on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:05 pm

The missing link. Something, somewhere on the face of the earth that is in MID-EVOLUTION???? Does not exist because we no not evolve. :-$

This is a clear misunderstanding of the concept. Every creature, every where, at all times is in MID-EVOLUTION. Evolution doesn't have an end point everything everywhere is slowly changing.
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby The Bison King on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:06 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
The Bison King wrote:

Watch this... I don't actually want you to die.


Interesting. But if what he says is true "We did not evolve from one species to another", than man either has always existed or something created man in its current form NOT derived from another species! Which can be the only logical conclusion! :shock:

Ok never mind... f*ck it, die in a fire.
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:18 pm

I like the folks and PBS digital studios too.




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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:20 pm

The Bison King wrote:
The missing link. Something, somewhere on the face of the earth that is in MID-EVOLUTION???? Does not exist because we no not evolve. :-$

This is a clear misunderstanding of the concept. Every creature, every where, at all times is in MID-EVOLUTION. Evolution doesn't have an end point everything everywhere is slowly changing.



No. That is illogical. If a dog evolves into a bird or a mouse into a lizard or WHATEVER. You would find these mixed species fossils in the ground! You would see EVIDENCE all around us that it is taking place!!!! "Oh look!There is one of those mice with scales on its belly! I wonder what that is going to become in 100 million years?"


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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:26 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I like the folks and PBS digital studios too.




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It's amazing that people can muster the faith it takes to believe this hogwash! :-s
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby Lord Arioch on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:35 pm

which god is? God, Jesus, Allah, Jehova, Buddha, that fat lady ... the 6k+ the hindu worships... seems to me anytime we cant explain things we run in three directions, 1. god did it/didnt, 2. nah its logical... or like me who cares it will sort it self out eventually. :D
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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby notyou2 on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:38 pm

Jay you are so funny. I find your ignorance incredibly amusing.

Thanks for the laughs.


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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!

Postby The Bison King on Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:42 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
The Bison King wrote:
The missing link. Something, somewhere on the face of the earth that is in MID-EVOLUTION???? Does not exist because we no not evolve. :-$

This is a clear misunderstanding of the concept. Every creature, every where, at all times is in MID-EVOLUTION. Evolution doesn't have an end point everything everywhere is slowly changing.



No. That is illogical. If a dog evolves into a bird or a mouse into a lizard or WHATEVER. You would find these mixed species fossils in the ground! You would see EVIDENCE all around us that it is taking place!!!! "Oh look!There is one of those mice with scales on its belly! I wonder what that is going to become in 100 million years?"


HELLO?

You have really no idea what you are talking about. A dog would not evolve into a bird. That is obvious, you must be aware of this. Your example, hinges on species, evolving into different families. Mice are mammals and Lizards are reptiles. Evolutionary changes are small, and happen on the species/genus level. Only over millions of years are new Families of creatures created.

but I'll bite. A better example would be "What if dinosaurs, evolved into birds?". Well ok, I suppose you would find fossils of Dinosaurs with feathers... what's that? we did? huh, well ok. I suppose that would make sense.

Another example would be Reptiles to Mammals. This also happened. The major difference between Reptiles and Mammals is that Mammals have a live birth, while Reptiles lay eggs. So if Reptiles evolved into Mammals we would see an evolutionary step of egg laying Mammals. Well as a matter of fact this exists. The platypus comes from a line of primitive mammals that never evolved into giving live birth. In fact all Marsupials are a primitive form of the modern mammals that inhabit most of the Earth. When Australia split from the rest of the continents all mammals were more closely related to marsupials. Everywhere else they continued to evolve, while on isolated Australia they remained relatively the same.

So yes, there is evidence of this, all over the world.
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