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Postby Colaalone on Fri May 04, 2007 11:35 pm

Aimless wrote: As trestain died last night, the cult did not grow (and very well may have shrunk), so there are at most three cultists


There are no cult followers, only a cult leader. I was the cult leader the past
two nights. I didn't recruit anyone and trestain was the only follower.
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Postby Aimless on Sat May 05, 2007 1:45 am

Huh. I guess that means I'm the only person to have tried to recruit as the Cult leader, since I wound up recruiting he-who-would-become-trestain on night 3. Oh well; at this stage in the game, I still think it's more important to lynch the Cult leader than the final mafia; Cults can become seriously overpowered in the end game. (Although, if there is only the leader alive today, we can afford to wait until tomorrow to lynch Syzygy if necessary; he'll only get one shot at recruiting, and solo cult members can only tie with the town.)
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 7:32 am

Well if there are 8 players left, and one cult recruiter/leader, cant he only have 2 by tomorrow? That isnt the majority or half, so I suggest we go after mafaia today, and tonight we can vig the cult. That threat is over, then we can go completely for scum.
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Postby I GOT SERVED on Sat May 05, 2007 8:36 am

jnd94 wrote:Well if there are 8 players left, and one cult recruiter/leader, cant he only have 2 by tomorrow? That isnt the majority or half, so I suggest we go after mafaia today, and tonight we can vig the cult. That threat is over, then we can go completely for scum.


Even if we do vig the cult tonight, then there's still one cultist left (assuming syzygy recruits).

If we lynch the cult leader today, then we completely eradicate teh cult.
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 8:38 am

I GOT SERVED wrote:
jnd94 wrote:Well if there are 8 players left, and one cult recruiter/leader, cant he only have 2 by tomorrow? That isnt the majority or half, so I suggest we go after mafaia today, and tonight we can vig the cult. That threat is over, then we can go completely for scum.


Even if we do vig the cult tonight, then there's still one cultist left (assuming syzygy recruits).

If we lynch the cult leader today, then we completely eradicate teh cult.


I understand your rreasoning, but scum would help the towns chance a lot more than cult. We cant vig aimless, because Im thinking he is the godfather. How bout lynch Aimless, vig cult, kill cult tomorrow,
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Postby for dummies on Sat May 05, 2007 8:42 am

"or howabout we just kill the cult leader now and get it over with."

"Good idea for dummies...lets do it"

Vote: Syzygy

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Postby I GOT SERVED on Sat May 05, 2007 8:44 am

jnd94 wrote:I understand your rreasoning, but scum would help the towns chance a lot more than cult. We cant vig aimless, because Im thinking he is the godfather. How bout lynch Aimless, vig cult, kill cult tomorrow,


One problem with this:

If we lynch aimless, and vig syzygy as you suggested, then we don't know who the remaining cultist is
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 8:46 am

I GOT SERVED wrote:
jnd94 wrote:I understand your rreasoning, but scum would help the towns chance a lot more than cult. We cant vig aimless, because Im thinking he is the godfather. How bout lynch Aimless, vig cult, kill cult tomorrow,


One problem with this:

If we lynch aimless, and vig syzygy as you suggested, then we don't know who the remaining cultist is


well, thats true, I just dont want the scum to get away when Im almost certain who they are.
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Postby Syzygy on Sat May 05, 2007 8:52 am

Or here's another hypothetical for you guys.

I'm lying, I'm not the only pro-cultist alive.
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 8:53 am

Syzygy wrote:Or here's another hypothetical for you guys.

I'm lying, I'm not the only pro-cultist alive.


maybe your lying about that so that we vote someone else and your cult wins?

VOTE SYZYGY
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Postby Syzygy on Sat May 05, 2007 8:54 am

jnd94 wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Or here's another hypothetical for you guys.

I'm lying, I'm not the only pro-cultist alive.


maybe your lying about that so that we vote someone else and your cult wins?

VOTE SYZYGY


Maybe.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat May 05, 2007 9:19 am

Aimless wrote:Huh. I guess that means I'm the only person to have tried to recruit as the Cult leader, since I wound up recruiting he-who-would-become-trestain on night 3. Oh well; at this stage in the game, I still think it's more important to lynch the Cult leader than the final mafia; Cults can become seriously overpowered in the end game. (Although, if there is only the leader alive today, we can afford to wait until tomorrow to lynch Syzygy if necessary; he'll only get one shot at recruiting, and solo cult members can only tie with the town.)


I also recruited when I was Cult leader, but Fircoal got killed the same night I tried to recruit him.
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 9:28 am

jonnybgood wrote:SPAM!!!


wtf?
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Postby The1exile on Sat May 05, 2007 9:31 am

Don't edit/delete posts, jonny.
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 9:33 am

The1exile wrote:Don't edit/delete posts, jonny.

hes not even in the game?
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Postby Aimless on Sat May 05, 2007 1:35 pm

Before we lynch Syzygy, I'd really like to hear some discussion on who the remaining rotating mafioso is.

Has anyone had a repeated role yet? If not, we can rule out jnd. (On the other hand, we know Narc was scum at least twice in a row, Days 2, 3, and 4, but was he the same scum role? This could be important.)

We know it's not Syzygy, by dint of him being Cult Leader. So, that leaves us with Balseifen, Colaalone, for dummies, IGS, and mandalorian.

By the way, there's something interesting I'd like to point out. Assume the following - the last remaining mafioso is the Godfather, who apparently can't be night killed (well, it's possible he's also a Mafia Roleblocker, and blocked the vig both of the last two nights). Then, with no vig kill, after we lynch Syzygy and the mafia kills, we're left with 6 players. Even numbered endgames are bad for the town. So, I'd suggest to vig kill someone tonight, even if it's completely at random, just so that we have an odd number at the end.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat May 05, 2007 1:57 pm

Aimless wrote:Before we lynch Syzygy, I'd really like to hear some discussion on who the remaining rotating mafioso is.

Has anyone had a repeated role yet? If not, we can rule out jnd. (On the other hand, we know Narc was scum at least twice in a row, Days 2, 3, and 4, but was he the same scum role? This could be important.)

We know it's not Syzygy, by dint of him being Cult Leader. So, that leaves us with Balseifen, Colaalone, for dummies, IGS, and mandalorian.

By the way, there's something interesting I'd like to point out. Assume the following - the last remaining mafioso is the Godfather, who apparently can't be night killed (well, it's possible he's also a Mafia Roleblocker, and blocked the vig both of the last two nights). Then, with no vig kill, after we lynch Syzygy and the mafia kills, we're left with 6 players. Even numbered endgames are bad for the town. So, I'd suggest to vig kill someone tonight, even if it's completely at random, just so that we have an odd number at the end.


Narc was scum two nights in a row, because all cycles, save the first one, lasted 2 Days. Jnd is IMO only one who is above suspicion.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat May 05, 2007 1:59 pm

Also, I suggest that Cop (if anyone has that particular role in this cycle), investigates people. Godfather is reads Townie, but Cultists read Cultists, right?
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Postby for dummies on Sat May 05, 2007 2:05 pm

i was vanilla townie twice but that is the only time my role has repeated
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat May 05, 2007 2:33 pm

for dummies wrote:i was vanilla townie twice but that is the only time my role has repeated


But, I don't think anyone was Mafia twice in a row, ergo Jnd should be trusted.
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Postby Aimless on Sat May 05, 2007 3:53 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:Narc was scum two nights in a row, because all cycles, save the first one, lasted 2 Days. Jnd is IMO only one who is above suspicion.


Narc was scum at least two cycles in a row. He was scum on Day 2, Day 3, and Day 4. The question is, was he the same scum both of those cycles, or did his role change (but was still scum)? This makes a big difference in whether or not it's possible for jnd to be scum today. for dummies, since you were scum with Narc on Day 2/3, did he ever tell you what his role was?
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 3:58 pm

Aimless wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:Narc was scum two nights in a row, because all cycles, save the first one, lasted 2 Days. Jnd is IMO only one who is above suspicion.


Narc was scum at least two cycles in a row. He was scum on Day 2, Day 3, and Day 4. The question is, was he the same scum both of those cycles, or did his role change (but was still scum)? This makes a big difference in whether or not it's possible for jnd to be scum today. for dummies, since you were scum with Narc on Day 2/3, did he ever tell you what his role was?
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i was scum for three days, maybe two? I foget, but now Im just a vanilla townie.....
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Postby Aimless on Sat May 05, 2007 4:04 pm

jnd94 wrote:i was scum for three days, maybe two? I foget, but now Im just a vanilla townie.....


At this stage in the game, I frankly don't think there are any vanilla townies left. But, if there are, someone would have had the role yesterday and can verify it. Anyone?

Major FOS jnd, at least until evidence that he's telling the truth surfaces.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat May 05, 2007 4:08 pm

Aimless wrote:
jnd94 wrote:i was scum for three days, maybe two? I foget, but now Im just a vanilla townie.....


At this stage in the game, I frankly don't think there are any vanilla townies left. But, if there are, someone would have had the role yesterday and can verify it. Anyone?

Major FOS jnd, at least until evidence that he's telling the truth surfaces.


Er..I am Vanilla Townie :oops:
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Postby jnd94 on Sat May 05, 2007 4:11 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Aimless wrote:
jnd94 wrote:i was scum for three days, maybe two? I foget, but now Im just a vanilla townie.....


At this stage in the game, I frankly don't think there are any vanilla townies left. But, if there are, someone would have had the role yesterday and can verify it. Anyone?

Major FOS jnd, at least until evidence that he's telling the truth surfaces.


Er..I am Vanilla Townie :oops:


that just about settles it

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