Dan Savage

[Phatscotty]

I don't see anything wrong with speakers talking about religion at religious schools.

[Maugena]

I don't see anything wrong with speakers talking about religion at religious schools.

Yeah, those catholic, homosexual kids shouldn't get bailed out because then you'd be attacking Phatscotty's religion!
Let's kill 'em all!

[Phatscotty]

I don't see anything wrong with speakers talking about religion at religious schools.

Yeah, those catholic, homosexual kids shouldn't get bailed out because then you'd be attacking Phatscotty's religion!
Let's kill 'em all!

Save your rhetoric. We've seen it all before.

[army of nobunaga]

Soft ass lives = people that do not even know what a bully is.


People that do not even know what a bully is + people that just like to jack their jaw at bullshit = threads like this.


Threads like this.... = CC

[jak111]

If it's true that he's using church money to fund his "Hate on Gays" campaigns, then isn't anyone who donates to these church groups also responsible for supporting such bigotry?

I'd think so. Churches are messed in their secret agendas though, so some may not know.

As for Maugena's post, I agree. I could come and defend christianity, but seeing as the thread creator did not bother defending or doing his research I am not bothering with defending his views, because they are scaled to his agenda.

Fastposted by scotty
REALLY? You don't see how it's wrong sending your kids to a school to be lectured on what's right and wrong from some preacher's perspective? HYPOCRITE. Their views are skewed to their religion, they teach nothing else, therefore they brainwash the kids. That's like if I sent you to North Korea when you were a baby, you'd grow up brainwashed to the Kim Jong family, believing them superior because that was all you were ever taught as a child.

Fasposted by Maugena
Lol maug

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Oh look, Christianity all over again from the beginning. Nice

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[sergybear03]

i like the video. it is true. The bible ignores most things and yet says so much negativity about homosexuality

[Phatscotty]

i like the video. it is true. The bible ignores most things and yet says so much negativity about homosexuality

WOODRUFF!!!!!

[jak111]

Who the hell you calling a hypocrite? I'm not sending my kids to a school to be lectured by anyone about anything. It's about time you stop trolling and flaming now.

I'm calling you a hypocrite, and if I have proof (which I do) of it, I'm not really trolling. You say you don't see why it's bad sending kids to private and sunday schools... YET you believe the video you posted at the beginning of the thread to be wrong of him to lecture kids (when he isn't, he's just pointing out things wrong with the bible).

You trolled and flamed by simply posting the video and complaining about it without even watching it (which you admitted you only saw a news cast of it, not the video its self) So take the time and listen to what he's saying before forming such a biased opinion on him. You took from the news cast info as fact before you even watched the video.

I rest my case, any further argument from you is just trying to get people to lash out at you for being so ignorant about what you're posting.

[chang50]

I agree wth every word Savage says.If he was talking about any other subject than religion there would be no problem at all.Special pleading for religion makes it almost a crime to be critical of it in a way that would be normal for anything else.Although when you've had your own way mostly for the best part of 2 thousand years,in the case of Christianity,we should expect hissyfits,or spoilt brat syndrome as I call it.

+1 It's a taboo topic ever since it came out, they can dish out hate and they can't take it in. May I reference people to the Holy Wars? There's plenty of examples of hate from the christian community toward anyone who is not. But it's topics like these and the fluff raised on it that make me want to say this, STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE.

Can someone please, give a correct description of a cult and I'll show you exactly what I mean. If you're taking offense to this, then stop posting videos about a guy speaking out for sexuality rights. "Love thy neighbour" I call bs, no one follow that simple line.

It's only quite recently that Christians stopped murdering people like Savage for speaking honestly about religion.I'm sorry but I am not too worried by a few hurt feelings when weighed against nearly 2 millennia of crimes against dissenting voices.Times may have changed but scratch the surface of modern,moderate Christianity and I suspect you'll find plenty willing to repeat the crimes of earlier ages.

Well, Communism in the 20th century has killed far more people than all religious wars combined since the beginning of time.

I'm not so sure religion is the best thing for your examples....

I am more than happy to unequivocally condemn Communism.Start a thread condemning Communism,and I'll add to it asap.

[chang50]

Those homophobes who walked out were all caught on camera, shamed for the entire world to see.

PLUS 100

[Army of GOD]

imdabes

+4*10^29239834

[everywhere116]

After watching that video....what the hell is wrong with it? Seems to be the exact message that should be spread.

[Phatscotty]

Dan Savage - "I wish they were all F'n dead."

[chang50]

Dan Savage - "I wish they were all F'n dead."

Lol,got your ass handed to you re. the OP,so you derail your own thread and post a totally unrelated video devoid of any context or explanation.Too precious

[Phatscotty]

Those homophobes who walked out were all caught on camera, shamed for the entire world to see.

PLUS 100

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Oh, really? Were the kids that walked out soooooo homophobic...that they decided to "walk in" and listen to him speak in the first place? Looks like the kids know more about tolerance than the speaker, and either of you two for that matter.

[chang50]

Those homophobes who walked out were all caught on camera, shamed for the entire world to see.

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Oh, really? Were they soooooo homophobic...that they decided to go and listen to him speak in the first please? Looks like the kids were being tolerant. Looks like the recognized intolerance too.

See what happens when you think about stuff for a second

Look at the video again,they started to walk out after a few seconds,staged much?Fair question to ask.Seems like a lot of them prejudged the content of his talk.ie they were prejudiced.Better if they stayed away if they weren't prepared to listen and learn.

[Maugena]

Dan Savage - "I wish they were all F'n dead."

I'll give you this one, Phatscotty.
Yes, Savage is being a bit... savage here.
However, this doesn't save you from being wrong about your entire thread.

But in all honesty, we could do without party-specific office delegates. Yes, represent people, but don't draw god damn lines everywhere and fight to the last man woman and child when you don't get your fucking way. /endminirant

[Night Strike]

Pretty blatant bullying by an anti-bully speaker. And even more bullying and near bigotry in this thread. It's amazing how much hate and vitriol there is in this forum and in the world for Christians and the Bible. Especially from people who claim to be tolerant. For being tolerant, your hate sure does show anytime someone says "Christian".

By the way, why do all the Christian-haters always bring up the past as justification for their present views. It is correct that the history of Christianity isn't all clean and pretty, but how is that an indictment of present-day Christians? If you want to see present-day oppression, why don't you look at the Communistic governments and dictatorships (that truly have killed more in the past 100 years then all the past Christian wars combined)? Why don't you look at the religion of Islam, with their constant subjugation and oppression of women (and homosexuals)? Or why don't you look at both as they use their positions to actually persecute and kill Christians simply for being Christian? It was Christianity that led the first people to come over to the US and then to ultimately establish the new nation with religious freedom. It is all these other groups that want to replace Christianity with hate and oppression.

Look at the video again,they started to walk out after a few seconds,staged much?Fair question to ask.Seems like a lot of them prejudged the content of his talk.ie they were prejudiced.Better if they stayed away if they weren't prepared to listen and learn.

It was the beginning of the video, not the beginning of the speech.

[BigBallinStalin]

Pretty blatant bullying by an anti-bully speaker. And even more bullying and near bigotry in this thread. It's amazing how much hate and vitriol there is in this forum and in the world for Christians and the Bible. Especially from people who claim to be tolerant. For being tolerant, your hate sure does show anytime someone says "Christian".

By the way, why do all the Christian-haters always bring up the past as justification for their present views. It is correct that the history of Christianity isn't all clean and pretty, but how is that an indictment of present-day Christians? If you want to see present-day oppression, why don't you look at the Communistic governments and dictatorships (that truly have killed more in the past 100 years then all the past Christian wars combined)? Why don't you look at the religion of Islam, with their constant subjugation and oppression of women (and homosexuals)? Or why don't you look at both as they use their positions to actually persecute and kill Christians simply for being Christian? It was Christianity that led the first people to come over to the US and then to ultimately establish the new nation with religious freedom. It is all these other groups that want to replace Christianity with hate and oppression.

Look at the video again,they started to walk out after a few seconds,staged much?Fair question to ask.Seems like a lot of them prejudged the content of his talk.ie they were prejudiced.Better if they stayed away if they weren't prepared to listen and learn.

It was the beginning of the video, not the beginning of the speech.

I take it you coordinated your trolling efforts with PS?


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[Maugena]

Pretty blatant bullying by an anti-bully speaker. And even more bullying and near bigotry in this thread. It's amazing how much hate and vitriol there is in this forum and in the world for Christians and the Bible. Especially from people who claim to be tolerant. For being tolerant, your hate sure does show anytime someone says "Christian".

By the way, why do all the Christian-haters always bring up the past as justification for their present views. It is correct that the history of Christianity isn't all clean and pretty, but how is that an indictment of present-day Christians? If you want to see present-day oppression, why don't you look at the Communistic governments and dictatorships (that truly have killed more in the past 100 years then all the past Christian wars combined)? Why don't you look at the religion of Islam, with their constant subjugation and oppression of women (and homosexuals)? Or why don't you look at both as they use their positions to actually persecute and kill Christians simply for being Christian? It was Christianity that led the first people to come over to the US and then to ultimately establish the new nation with religious freedom. It is all these other groups that want to replace Christianity with hate and oppression.

Look at the video again,they started to walk out after a few seconds,staged much?Fair question to ask.Seems like a lot of them prejudged the content of his talk.ie they were prejudiced.Better if they stayed away if they weren't prepared to listen and learn.

It was the beginning of the video, not the beginning of the speech.

Let's go over this again:

The Bible.
We'll just talk about The Bible for a second. Uh.
People often point out that they can't help it. They can't help it-the anti-gay bullying.
'Cuz it says it right there in Leviticus. It says right there in Timothy. It says right there in Romans.
That being gay is wrong.
We can learn to ignore the bullshit in The Bible about gay people. The same way... the same way we have learned to ignore the bullshit in The Bible about shellfish, about slavery, about dinner, about farming, about menstruation, about virginity, about masturbation.
We ignore bullshit in The Bible about all sorts of things.
The Bible is a radically pro-slavery document.
Slave owners waved Bibles over their heads during the Civil War and justified it.
The shortest book in The Testiment is a letter from Paul to a Christian slave owner about owning his Christian slave.
And Paul doesn't say Christians don't own people.
Paul talks about HOW Christians own people.
We ignore what The Bible says about slavery because the Bible got slavery wrong.
Tim Har-Sam Harrison, Letter to A Christian Nation points out that The Bible got the easiest moral question that humanity has ever faced, wrong. Slavery.
What are the odds that The Bible got something as complicated as human sexuality wrong? 100%.
The Bible says that if your daughter's not a virgin on her wedding night-if a woman isn't a virgin on her wedding night, she shall be dragged to her father's doorstep and stoned to death.
Callista Gingrich lives.
And there is no effort-there is no effort to amend State Constitutions to make it legal to stone women to death on their wedding night-if they're not virgins. At least not yet, we don't know where the GOP's going these days...
People are dying because people can't clear this one last hurdle. They can't get past this one last thing in The Bible about homosexuality.
Um.
One other thing I wanna talk about is... heh...
So you can tell the Bible guys in the hall they can come back now because I'm done beating up the Bible.
It's funny someone who's on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible how pansied assed some people react when you push back.
I apologize if I've hurt anyone's feelings. But. I have a right to defend myself.
And to point out the hypocrisy of people who justify anti-gay bigotry by pointing to the Bible and insisting we must live by the code of Leviticus on this one issue and no other.

I suppose you missed exactly what he said. Oh, and I'm pretty sure bully's don't apologize. Nor do they act out of self-defense.
Keep on keepin' on, you.

[Maugena]

I take it you coordinated your trolling efforts with PS?


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You made me giggle.

I hereby announce that I will no longer keep tabs on this thread. I'm done.

[Night Strike]

I take it you coordinated your trolling efforts with PS?


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Why would I? I knew about the story before it was even posted on here. I've been following the thread and decided to go ahead and respond (without trolling, which I can't say for many of the other people in this thread).

I suppose you missed exactly what he said. Oh, and I'm pretty sure bully's don't apologize. Nor do they act out of self-defense.
Keep on keepin' on, you.

This guy is just angry that he got bullied in his past (which was wrong) and is using his anti-bullying platform to instead bully those who he thinks are less than him (which is just as wrong). And no, he won't apologize because he sees Christians as being less than him, which is the position all bullies take.

[Army of GOD]

I take it you coordinated your trolling efforts with PS?


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Why would I? I knew about the story before it was even posted on here. I've been following the thread and decided to go ahead and respond (without trolling, which I can't say for many of the other people in this thread).

Because you read it on the Blaze, right?

[natty dread]

Pretty blatant bullying by an anti-bully speaker. And even more bullying and near bigotry in this thread. It's amazing how much hate and vitriol there is in this forum and in the world for Christians and the Bible.

What's amazing is the persecution complex of some christians.

What's perhaps even more amazing is the hypocricy of a certain christian who believes in fairy tales about a 6000 year old earth, who frequently calls people sinners who are definitely going to hell, who is a racist and homophobe, and is accusing others of "bigotry"...

[jak111]

Pretty blatant bullying by an anti-bully speaker. And even more bullying and near bigotry in this thread. It's amazing how much hate and vitriol there is in this forum and in the world for Christians and the Bible. Especially from people who claim to be tolerant. For being tolerant, your hate sure does show anytime someone says "Christian".

By the way, why do all the Christian-haters always bring up the past as justification for their present views. It is correct that the history of Christianity isn't all clean and pretty, but how is that an indictment of present-day Christians? If you want to see present-day oppression, why don't you look at the Communistic governments and dictatorships (that truly have killed more in the past 100 years then all the past Christian wars combined)? Why don't you look at the religion of Islam, with their constant subjugation and oppression of women (and homosexuals)? Or why don't you look at both as they use their positions to actually persecute and kill Christians simply for being Christian? It was Christianity that led the first people to come over to the US and then to ultimately establish the new nation with religious freedom. It is all these other groups that want to replace Christianity with hate and oppression.

Look at the video again,they started to walk out after a few seconds,staged much?Fair question to ask.Seems like a lot of them prejudged the content of his talk.ie they were prejudiced.Better if they stayed away if they weren't prepared to listen and learn.

It was the beginning of the video, not the beginning of the speech.

I love this, more derailment of the actual point. The point of this thread is the video scotty posted and about the views on said video, everything else really is wandering off topic. scotty just needs to learn when he's wrong about something and this video is one of those things.

Hmm, I was about to ask you the same question. Why do all communist haters have to bring up the past? See, this is where I'm getting you two on being hypocrites. You can judge ones past, but you can't stand your beliefs past being judged.

Also strike, stop skimming over peoples comments on WHAT he said, I know you're doing that by the simple fact of this post.

I take it you coordinated your trolling efforts with PS?


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Why would I? I knew about the story before it was even posted on here. I've been following the thread and decided to go ahead and respond (without trolling, which I can't say for many of the other people in this thread).

I suppose you missed exactly what he said. Oh, and I'm pretty sure bully's don't apologize. Nor do they act out of self-defense.
Keep on keepin' on, you.

This guy is just angry that he got bullied in his past (which was wrong) and is using his anti-bullying platform to instead bully those who he thinks are less than him (which is just as wrong). And no, he won't apologize because he sees Christians as being less than him, which is the position all bullies take.

You're just being angry because a religion that you like is MENTIONED in the speech and you've read negative comments on it, how about you go LISTEN to the video or read what maugena quoted (someone wrote it down what he said word for word). I'm getting tired of assumptions, and you're assuming what the video is about by what others have said. He doesn't even put down the bible, he puts down certain parts that ARE really just bs.

I'm not meaning to sound rude, but you're being ignorant to people when you just start preaching your beliefs with no real reason. This thread again is about the video scotty posted and views on it. I give props to the guy for speaking out when christian believers oppress anyone who disagree with their book (prime examples all through this thread). Any questions?

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