The United States of America

[betiko]

You guys are hilarious.

One Capitol Riot: "The worst, most unprecedented thing we have ever seen."

Months of BLM/Antifa Riots: "Meh."

Both are terrible. Both shouldn't have happened. You all condemn one side extensively, but turn a blind eye to the other side. How disgraceful.

Ok since you are too dumb to understand:
-BLM is all about things going out of hands between the police and black people after series of events where clearly citizens lost their lives after police interventions. Interventions where depending on your race you can lose your life. There is nothing wrong with protests and trying to create awareness on an issue. This doesn't mean that you don't have violent idiots in protests that blur the message, taking advantage of semi chaos to do criminal stuff.
-Raiding the capitol because a whinning sore loser lost an election and can't cope with defeat.... makes a rally and asks that crowd to raid the capitol with him (yeah I mean...just throwing a stone and hidding his hand)... The capitol is the representation of your country's democracy. It is filled by people that are there because they were elected by the americans. To try to sneak in and stop the process of democracy... that is the most unamerican and unconstitutional thing ever.
Trump has made you enter in a world of conspiracies, dilusion, lies, victimization and has been using the stupidity of his supporters so far that you can't even recognize what is the most unconstitutional thing an american president ever did. His fascination for dictators worldwide should probably make you tick... he wants to be one himself. Quite hard to do in a country that was created around the idea of democracy.

Ah, I see. So if the rioting supports your cause and your idealogical position, then by all means riot. But if the rioting doesn't support your cause or idealogical position, then these are the worst humans to have ever lived. Thank you for your transparency.

Welcome to the fully functioning moral compass of betiko

Humm nope. I guess no saine person could think what happened to George Floyd was right. People react in all sorts of manners. Agreeing that George Floyd dying like that is not something that I find acceptable; how on earth does it mean that I find the rioting acceptable? Understandable until a certain extent, doesn’t mean I’m good with things that get out of hand.
If for you the capitol situation isn’t something that got way out of hands then what is it?
I suggest that we switch positions. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who thinks that it’s more than unlikely that the election was rigged; I’ll put myself in the shoes of someone who knows for sure they were rigged.

[saxitoxin]

Allegation that Trump's speech "incited" Capitol attackers proved false.

Fact check --- this was done by the National Pulse but I believe they may be ordered deplatformed soon as they've published content that criticizes Biden, so I'll summarize here.

First, the time it takes to walk from the Ellipse to the Capitol is 33 minutes. Source: Google Maps

Second, the USCP reported the "first wave" of protesters arrived at the Capitol at 12:30 p.m. Source: Washington Post

Third, Trump began speaking at 12:00 p.m. Source: Washington Post

Fourth, Trump finished speaking at 12:55 p.m. Source: Washington Post

Timeline
11:57 a.m. - Protesters depart Ellipse for Capitol (12:30 - 33 minute travel time = 11:57)
12:00 p.m. - Trump starts speaking
12:30 p.m. - Protesters arrive at Capitol
12:55 p.m. - Trump finishes speaking

In other words, the protesters would have had to leave for the Capitol three minutes before Trump even started speaking.

But now that the president has been silenced and all opposition media have been taken offline, as Escheresque and unbelievable as this timeline is, it will still be eaten up because no one is able to hear either an objection or the other side; because now there is no such thing as two sides to every story - there is only (a) facts and (b) false claims. Now there are even calls to prohibit defense attorneys from presenting a client's side of the story in trials if it doesn't agree with the prosecution (!) because it could misinform the jury with "false facts." In other words, jurors will only be able to hear the prosecution case before deciding guilt. And the glassy-faced, doe-eyed Biden supporters are cheering this as their "rescue" from fascism! This is absolutely nuts --- complete insanity. It took 72 hours and the world has been turned on its head.

Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

[jimboston]

Allegation that Trump's speech "incited" Capitol attackers proved false.

Fact check --- this was done by the National Pulse but I believe they may be ordered deplatformed soon as they've published content that criticizes Biden, so I'll summarize here.

First, the time it takes to walk from the Ellipse to the Capitol is 33 minutes. Source: Google Maps

Second, the USCP reported the "first wave" of protesters arrived at the Capitol at 12:30 p.m. Source: Washington Post

Third, Trump began speaking at 12:00 p.m. Source: Washington Post

Fourth, Trump finished speaking at 12:55 p.m. Source: Washington Post

Timeline
11:57 a.m. - Protesters depart Ellipse for Capitol (12:30 - 33 minute travel time = 11:57)
12:00 p.m. - Trump starts speaking
12:30 p.m. - Protesters arrive at Capitol
12:55 p.m. - Trump finishes speaking

In other words, the protesters would have had to leave for the Capitol three minutes before Trump even started speaking.

So his false claims for the past 2 months had nothing to do with inciting it?
So his request that people show up on 1/6/21 had nothing to do with it?

Just because people were AT the Capital Building doesn’t mean the riot started at 12:30...what time did they start banging down the doors?

Your “proof” is nothing.

[2dimes]

I am still unsure who the group jimboston keeps talking about is but eventually they get named in the list.

I gather A.C. Thompson is making a documentary on protesting. He has been attending many protests and seems to be interacting with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

He explains the event on Capitol Hill was not only pre planned but there were several groups involved that all organized their involvement. Including what he described as hardcore white supremisits.

This interview is a bit disturbing and more credible in my opinion than the Michael Moore podcast I posted in another thread but shares some similar ideas.

show

I found it interesting that several comments are complaining the journalists in this clip are not calling the protestors terrorists.

[Keefie]

British ITV News were the only film crew inside the Capitol building, I highly recommend everyone watch this.

[TeeGee]

VIDEO UNAVAILABLE

""This video contains content from Passion Distribution, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds""

might need to reload the VPN and have a look

[jimboston]

I'm not sure what facts one has to demonstrate he's a Trump supporter.

The picture of him walking through the Capital Building carrying a podium and marking for the camera.

You heard it from Gym first ... if someone carries a podium it's proof they support Donald Trump.

Just ignore the rest of the post.

[jimboston]

I am still unsure who the group jimboston keeps talking about is but eventually they get named in the list.

You mean QAnon?

[2dimes]

Yeah, Wikipedia says it is an unproven claim there is a group of satanic pediphiles plotting against President Trump.

A.C. Thompson named them in the interview I posted, when listing groups that were known to have been present at the protest January 6, when a large group entered the Capitol building.

[saxitoxin]

British ITV News were the only film crew inside the Capitol building, I highly recommend everyone watch this.

That was a fantastic video. Thousands of people streaming through the Crypt and not a single fragile bust or statue toppled over or smashed. If it was BLM, there wouldn't be a bust left in one piece.

[saxitoxin]

Leftists are FREAKING out after ...

More and more Capitol stormers are turning out, themselves, to have been active-duty police and military.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... a8e8f73da8

Photos of Biden's Praetorian Guard - apparently the only thing letting him cling to power - have emerged showing them reading Ayn Rand novels and other subversive books, which have been distributed gratis by supporters of the president to encamped troops. Many leftists are calling for "someone" (who knows who, since they don't trust the police and now - apparently - don't trust the military) to go through and collect any "seditious" books to be burned.



Things are going to get bad in the coming weeks. This is the start of the Biden presidency. This is not normal.

[saxitoxin]

A 31 year-old man has been arrested inside Biden's Baghdad-style "Green Zone" in the capital city. The man was carrying several firearms and 500 rounds of ammunition. He was carrying a forged inauguration pass. It's unclear if the pass fooled the Praetorian Guard or he had inside assistance from sentries. Democratic Party security forces are investigating to see if other members of his cell have penetrated, and are currently inside, the Green Zone.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... s-n1254521

In order to enter the Green Zone, American citizens must show acceptable travel documents and government-issued ID. Access is generally restricted to members of the ruling party's elite. Crossings over the Potomac River leading into the capital city have been rigged with explosives if it becomes necessary to blow them to protect the Biden regime. This is the Biden presidency. This is not normal.

[jimboston]

This is the Biden presidency. This is not normal.
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... cause Trump’s Presidency was?

[jimboston]

Crossings over the Potomac River leading into the capital city have been rigged with explosives if it becomes necessary to blow them to protect the Biden regime.

Evidence?

[saxitoxin]

Effective this afternoon and to extend indefinitely, all air over the capital city has been declared National Defense Airspace and Eastern Air Defense Sector fighters are flying weapons hot, authorized to use deadly force against civilian aircraft approaching Washington. Luxury jets operated by the ruling party's elite and the CEOs of their allied megacorporations are authorized to enter.

THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NATIONAL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'. PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE AIRCRAFT.

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_4685.html

Washington, D.C. currently has four times more troops garrisoning it than when British forces invaded in 1814. The troops have been drawn from the National Guards of states that voted at least 55% for Biden.

This is not normal.

[jimboston]

Effective this afternoon, in a new Notice to Airmen, the air over the capital city has been declared National Defense Airspace and deadly force has been authorized against civilian aircraft approaching Washington.

Good.

Hey... civilian aircraft. Don’t fly near DC. Pretty simple.

[saxitoxin]

Effective this afternoon, in a new Notice to Airmen, the air over the capital city has been declared National Defense Airspace and deadly force has been authorized against civilian aircraft approaching Washington.

Good.

Hey... civilian aircraft. Don’t fly near DC. Pretty simple.

Exactly. The capital is for the rulers only. Not for the peasants.

[jimboston]

Effective this afternoon, in a new Notice to Airmen, the air over the capital city has been declared National Defense Airspace and deadly force has been authorized against civilian aircraft approaching Washington.

Good.

Hey... civilian aircraft. Don’t fly near DC. Pretty simple.

Exactly. The capital is for the rulers only. Not for the peasants.

Maybe if idiots who believe lies didn;t storm the Capital Building a week ago....

I think having protected airspace is fairly normal and smart.

[saxitoxin]

[2dimes]

Effective this afternoon and to extend indefinitely, all air over the capital city has been declared National Defense Airspace and Eastern Air Defense Sector fighters are flying weapons hot, authorized to use deadly force against civilian aircraft approaching Washington. Luxury jets operated by the ruling party's elite and the CEOs of their allied megacorporations are authorized to enter.

THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NATIONAL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'. PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE AIRCRAFT.

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_4685.html

Washington, D.C. currently has four times more troops garrisoning it than when British forces invaded in 1814. The troops have been drawn from the National Guards of states that voted at least 55% for Biden.

This is not normal.

That's funny. Nice try. TFAs and TFRs have been normal for well over a decade.

Even if Jimmy Carter shows up there is a TFA. Football games and al sorts of things result in one. Check the notams you dummy.

Here look at these flight panning charts https://skyvector.com the entire country is riddled with TFAs.

[saxitoxin]

BREAKING: Federal agents have arrested the head of a Democratic Party militia unit planning to organize a sniper ambush of pro-Trump peaceful protesters tomorrow. The pro-Biden militiaman has ties to a Syrian terrorist group and used YouTube to organize the attacks. The pro-Biden militiaman was a former U.S. Army soldier who had been dishonorably discharged for cowardice.

A former U.S. Army soldier from Tallahassee angered over the siege of the U.S. Capitol was arrested by the FBI after issuing a call to arms for a violent attack on protesters Sunday at Florida’s Capitol. Daniel Alan Baker, 33, was arrested Friday on a federal charge involving transmission of a threat to kidnap or injure, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Florida announced in a news release.

Prosecutors say Baker, a former airborne infantryman with reported ties to a foreign terrorist group, planned to violently confront protesters at the Capitol on Sunday, the same day the FBI warned of violence at all 50 state capitols. “Baker issued a call to arms for like-minded individuals to violently confront protesters gathered at the Florida Capitol this Sunday,” federal prosecutors said. “He specifically called for others to join him in encircling any protesters and confining them at the Capitol complex using firearms.”

Baker was arrested with assistance from the Tallahassee Police Department and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. If convicted, he faces up to five years in federal prison and a $250,000 fine. A couple of weeks before the general election, Baker posted on social media, "God I hope the right tries a coup Nov 3rd cuz I'm so f------ down to slay enemies again."

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/ ... 175324001/

Meanwhile, in an interview on WARROOM, the chair of the Wyoming Republican Party has said they are keeping channels of communication open with Texas relating to its consideration of secession from the Union of States. The Wyoming GOP also says state military officials have confirmed the state is able to maintain self-sufficiency for a period of time, but would ultimately need allied states that have access to bluewater ports.

https://rumble.com/vcwca1-ep-661-the-st ... avarr.html

Just another day in the Biden "unity" presidency ...

[mookiemcgee]

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-o ... 5qDjdD4ovw

[saxitoxin]

Biden will no longer travel by train to his bunker inauguration after it was determined the entire military power of the United States - which once occupied the nation of Iraq for six years - would still be insufficient to secure the railway tracks between Delaware and D.C. This is not normal.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/1 ... lid=630318

[2dimes]

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-o ... li-1560754?

That is amazing.

[jimboston]

Yeah, Wikipedia says it is an unproven claim there is a group of satanic pediphiles plotting against President Trump.

A.C. Thompson named them in the interview I posted, when listing groups that were known to have been present at the protest January 6, when a large group entered the Capitol building.

There were many protestors wearing “Q”shirts.

It’s a depressing conspiracy theory that what Wiki says... you can listen to podcasts about it. There’s a lot of overlap between Trump supports and “Q Believers”.

They basically believe there is an “Elite Ruling Class” or “Deep State” that rape and eat kids... that Hillary Clinton is part of this group... and that the “reason” the “Establishment”is against Trump is because he is out to expose them. That is why “the Deep State” fixed the election so Trump would lose.