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do u believe this is true?

 
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Postby vtmarik on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:10 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
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Of course you are correct Vt.


No he isn't.


Yes I am, we are all a part of the same race, the same species. The only qualitative difference between a white person and a black person is melanin content. It's all phenotype.

Let's say you have two monarch butterflies. They have different spots. Are they the same race? Yes, because they're both monarch butterflies.
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Postby Simonov on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:13 pm

vtmarik wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
jiminski wrote:
Of course you are correct Vt.


No he isn't.


Yes I am, we are all a part of the same race, the same species. The only qualitative difference between a white person and a black person is melanin content. It's all phenotype.

Let's say you have two monarch butterflies. They have different spots. Are they the same race? Yes, because they're both monarch butterflies.

sorry but you're not. confused terms of race and species at least in terms of genetics. as i said before we're different in more then just skin color. look it up if u don't believe me. we should be proud of this differences and respect them.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:17 pm

vtmarik wrote:
Yes I am, we are all a part of the same race, the same species. The only qualitative difference between a white person and a black person is melanin content. It's all phenotype.

Let's say you have two monarch butterflies. They have different spots. Are they the same race? Yes, because they're both monarch butterflies.


There are a lot more things different. And ofcourse we're part of the same species. That's not what race means. Race is actually not considered a good term for anything except cats and dogs, but that doesn't mean you can honestly say we're the same race as like asians or something.
It's fine, it doesn't matter.

PHENOTYPE IS WHAT RACE IS ABOUT. A species needs to be able to have viable offspring to be the same species. A german sheperd and a poodle can have viable offspring, hell even a Danish Dog and a chihuahua can. (Well, it would be difficult without insemination...)
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Re: black race is inferior?

Postby NESconqueror on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:19 pm

Simonov wrote:http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece

HE claims it so it must be true ? ... only time will tell in the end.
i really respected him until this claim, even if it is true he should have better thought of consequences what this theory could bring...

i say it doesn't matter in the end. we're all human...

I say that races are created equal.
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Re: black race is inferior?

Postby Simonov on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:23 pm

NESconqueror wrote:
Simonov wrote:http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece

HE claims it so it must be true ? ... only time will tell in the end.
i really respected him until this claim, even if it is true he should have better thought of consequences what this theory could bring...

i say it doesn't matter in the end. we're all human...

I say that races are created equal.

yes, equal but not the same. look through whole discussion...
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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:25 pm

i voted no before i even read the article
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Postby Guiscard on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:26 pm

vtmarik wrote:
Yes I am, we are all a part of the same race, the same species. The only qualitative difference between a white person and a black person is melanin content. It's all phenotype.

Let's say you have two monarch butterflies. They have different spots. Are they the same race? Yes, because they're both monarch butterflies.


No. Race in this context is a perfectly valid term (heres the wikientry if anyone fancies a read). There may be more accurate terms, but it is an applicable word for what we are discussing. It is the generally accepted and widely used word to denote the different phenotypes. No-one uses it in the same way as the interbreeding definition. Race is just another word for phenotype in this context, whereas it would not be as acceptable were we to be discussing butterflies (which we aren't).
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Postby Simonov on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:34 pm

Guiscard wrote:
vtmarik wrote:
Yes I am, we are all a part of the same race, the same species. The only qualitative difference between a white person and a black person is melanin content. It's all phenotype.

Let's say you have two monarch butterflies. They have different spots. Are they the same race? Yes, because they're both monarch butterflies.


No. Race in this context is a perfectly valid term (heres the wikientry if anyone fancies a read). There may be more accurate terms, but it is an applicable word for what we are discussing. It is the generally accepted and widely used word to denote the different phenotypes. No-one uses it in the same way as the interbreeding definition. Race is just another word for phenotype in this context, whereas it would not be as acceptable were we to be discussing butterflies (which we aren't).

translated to english: people are just too sensitive when using the term RACE because of negative historical connotations liked to the term.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:36 pm

Yeah, humans are animals, we have instinct, we are driven, etc etc etc.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:53 pm

Well I don't know about you guys but I don't wanna be descended from a monkey lol.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:54 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:Well I don't know about you guys but I don't wanna be descended from a monkey lol.


Let's make a theory and publicize it based on your opinion. Oh wait...
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Postby ignotus on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:56 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:Well I don't know about you guys but I don't wanna be descended from a monkey lol.


Me neater, but you're stuck with that hairy ass. :lol:
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Postby vtmarik on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:57 pm

What about the very popular term "Human Race."

Did you forget about that one or are you happy using very old malapropisms?
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Postby Simonov on Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:59 pm

vtmarik wrote:What about the very popular term "Human Race."

Did you forget about that one or are you happy using very old malapropisms?
it is sociological, philosophical and biblical term. i'm talking only about biological term of race...

human race in terms of biology is a mal.... mal... malapighi tube? no! malapropism. got it finally.

i don't know about US but race or "rasa" here means a variety of some species. for example you have races of track horses but they're all horses. same is with human.
except we have a great need to put ourself above everything else, can't accept the truth we're animals and thus invented gods who created us in their image. yeah, you heard me - man invented god to put himself above other creatures of Earth... so pathetic... stop animal discrimination! don't be ashamed of our origin!
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Postby Nobunaga on Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:07 pm

... Back in my old neighborhood, there was an invasion of damned dirty blacks. They just moved right in - migrated up from the south I heard, and took over! The b*stards.

... I'm talking about squirrels here. The grays are gone... sad, sad.

... But seriously, what this guy said (the DNA guy... can't be bothered to go look for his name, I read the article a few days ago)... this guy is a huge dissapointment. It's something like finding out Superman is a pedophile.

... True enough that millions of years of evolution in vastly different environments result in major variations in the race (human race), and I was taking him serisouly until I read far enough to see that bit about abortions for women with homo DNA babies...

... what a letdown.
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Postby Beastly on Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:08 pm

I don't believe any race inferior to the other, However, I do believe white quarterbacks are better than black.
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Postby jiminski on Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:52 am

Beastly wrote:I don't believe any race inferior to the other, However, I do believe white quarterbacks are better than black.



hehehe .. am i supposed to laugh at that...

you have opened a catering sized tin of worms with that one!
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Postby Frigidus on Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:42 am

Beastly wrote:I don't believe any race inferior to the other, However, I do believe white quarterbacks are better than black.

Maybe, but black running backs are pretty dominant.
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Postby unriggable on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:18 am

jiminski wrote:
Beastly wrote:I don't believe any race inferior to the other, However, I do believe white quarterbacks are better than black.



hehehe .. am i supposed to laugh at that...

you have opened a catering sized tin of worms with that one!


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Postby freezie on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:20 am

Whoever say blacks are inferior is the inferior.
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Postby unriggable on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:22 am

freezie wrote:Whoever say blacks are inferior is the inferior.


I'm surprised people are so primitive that they believe in inferiority. There is no better or worse. There is just different.
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Postby freezie on Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:25 am

unriggable wrote:
freezie wrote:Whoever say blacks are inferior is the inferior.


I'm surprised people are so primitive that they believe in inferiority. There is no better or worse. There is just different.


Bingo.
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