Obama's rating: Strong. But Average. And Way Divided.

[jonesthecurl]

Wait, Black Panther married that chick from Asteroid M.... ???

And Green Arrow died....


Comic nerds could do this all day....

That wasn't Green Arrow. Hence the current (excellent) title Green Arrow and Black Canary.

NO, but Panther and Storm married last year - I didn't read it but it was one of those increasingly-common story arcs that spread across a range of titles to get you to buy stuff you normally don't.

I was very sad when my lapel badge witrh heart-shaped spidey logo accidenally got broke. It was from his wedding (mid-80's?). I still have a poster somewhere (I was selling comics at the time and got a number of rare promotional items)

[PopeBenXVI]

Well heavycola...if you would acctually get some news from somewhere other than "The View" you would know about all the idiotic things Obama has said over the last year. I will save you the trouble of having to look it up but here is the youtube video of Obama saying he has been to 57+ states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Oh, and Biden said today that "jobs" is a 3 letter word. He said it twice.

It's also funny how you mentioned alleged "Rage" at Mccain rallies. Obama supporters are the ones wearing vulgar Tshirts about Palin, Acorn is commiting voter fraud across the country and Obama donated $800+ thousand to them and he is friends with an unrepentant domestic terrorist who bombed the pentagon, and the NY city Police department. He killed people and recently said "we didn't do enough". Obama Launched his political Career in his Living room!! This is documented Fact and Obama Lied....AGAIN in front of the whole country.

Sorry to inform you that you are misinformed and are so Blinded by either your party affiliation, ethnic background, or liberal tendencies that you won't admit any faults of his. Obama is a Socialist by promoting redistribution of wealth.

It's also funny how the media says if white people don't vote for him like polls say they will it shows they are racist but the fact that 90+% of Blacks support him is somehow not a race problem. Many of them are voting for him because he is black which is no different than anyone else refusing to vote for him because he is black. Race should not be a factor while the following should: whether or not you have friends who are terrorists, if you are legally eligable to be president, and if organizations you promote have commited voter fraud on a massive scale.

[b.k. barunt]

When i was 12-13 i had Avengers #1, Daredevil #1, X-men #1, and a bunch of other oldies. Then i started high school and a girl i liked told me only geeks read comics, so i let my mother throw them out. Brilliant!


Honibaz

[jbrettlip]

It all comes down to who will get things done!
John McCain, a centrist/small government guy with a proven record of crossing the aisle of party lines to reach a consensus and actually get things done for this country!

McCain has had 26 years in Washington to "get things done" and his record is what? In recent months he has repeated the mantra "Washington is broken" and "Country first" but what has the Senator actually done about it during his time in office? Not a lot. The conservative self proclaimed maverick is ready to jump on any bandwagon and say anything to win the office he believes is his destiny anyways. Obama has said from the beginning that this country needs CHANGE and eventually McCain's campaign has attempted to make that concept their own.

Look at McCain's "proven record" and tell me what he's done for you lately with his ability to connect with his fellow legislators... and um... do things. The economy he claimed was basically fine tanked two weeks later and he um "suspended his campaign" to rush off to Washington to "fix it"... what a laugher that was. He did everything but appologise for over-reacting and totally freaking out, but he was ready to cave in to Wall Street and hand over tax payer dollars to bail out these wealthy private entities. Yeah... John McCain is rock solid.

His running mate Sarah Palin claimed the maverick McCain has instituted many "reforms" but when asked to name a few by Katie Curick? She said, "I can't think of any off the top of my head but I know there are lots, so I'll have to get back to you on that one." We're still waiting for that "one" to get answered... maybe you can enlighten us about his maverick accomplishments during a quarter century in office.

Eight years of rampant Bush administration spending and his cronies stuffing their pockets with tax dollars is enough, the maverick did nothing about this Republican development of THE BIGGEST FUCKING GOVERNMENT EVER... but hand over his yes vote in agreement of whatever Bush/Cheney felt was in "the best interest of this country."

Do you really think this self proclaimed "maverick reformer" can institute change? The optomistic answer to that is a doubtful at best, and after watching McCain's response to recent events I now believe that IF change is going to come... Obama has the better chance of actually getting it done.

So in these 5 paragraphs, one is about Bush, One Palin, one is your opinion and 2 are broadly based on McCain. Real objective.

Facts: McCain has pissed off most of the repubs by backing immigration amnesty. He doens't/hasn'/won't take earmarks making him more fiscally responsible. He spoke up about Fannie and Freddie 2 years ago (granted it accomplished nothing, but he is only 1 of 100 in the senate) and he was right on Iraq.

So yeah, if CHANGE is what you want, enjoy living under Comrade Obama. He is a left wing communist and when he takes all your money to redistribute to others (assuming you make any) you will realize how shitty your decision was.

[got tonkaed]

if your interested jbrettlip later on tonight or weekend (im on the other end of the globe) id be happy to put up the candidates positions on 3 different issues which i feel make part of a case for showing that obama is a better national interest vote than mccain. The issues deal with defense/national security, energy policy and the economy each of which are considered fairly important issues in the campaign. If youd like to talk about a different issue thas fine as well, but i believe you would be a bit more persuasive if you talked about things like why mccain is a better vote instead of parroting redistributionist statements.

[got tonkaed]

the voter fraud is an issue and clearly should be talked about in mainstream sources. Individuals responsible should have to answer to what should be justified questioning. The rest of the post is far less useful and rather ironic when considering that the poster is slamming someone for being innudated with information from only one view point, when in fact they are essentially reeling off page after page of a playbook from a different side. Just because the other guys view their backed candidates campaign and extensions with as critcal eye as you do, doesnt mean you arent guilty of similar crimes.

Nor would it hurt most mccain supporters to actually get back to why on the issues mccain is a better chief executive than obama. It is astonishing how rarely people come out in favor of mccain policies over obama's.

[oVo]

Yup... definitely opinionated and definitely not objective. Curious thing about last night's debate is the whole Joe Plumber thing. John McCain will tax him more, not Obama... so it was a very odd thing for McCain to mention. It also seemed like he could barely handle sitting accross the table from Barack Obama... a fellow American... so how can we expect him to discuss sensitive issues with foreigners? Those blinky eyes will drive anyone to distraction my friends and if "angry" had been the secret word last night, tequila shots would have had me dazed before John had even finished his first response.

How was McCain right about Iraq? Congress was duped by a Republican Administration who manipulated their vote with manufactured facts to support a pre-emptive invasion. The maverick joined other Senators (who were lied to just like the rest of us) in going along with the president's agenda to go to war.

and now... for something completely different... try imagining Sarah Palin in the Oval Office.
Click around until you find Bambi and then click again

[jbrettlip]

Good God...try to find ANY post of mine where I have anyhting good to say about Palin..that was the biggest mistake he made!

the surge, and handling of the war is his strength. regardless of why we are there, HE had the right idea of how to fight the war. He still does too. Personally I think the Iraqis shoudl start paying us for liberating them though.

I am not a sheep following McCain. I like him because he is not a prototypical republican.

[jbrettlip]

tonkaed:

Sure I would be happy to see your thoughts. However announcing our withdrawal from Iraq and having a timetable is wrong. The insurgents will simply wait until we have shipped out and then attack. raising taxes is bad for the economy. Obama ADMITTED it by saying he would delay raising htem until the economy got stronger. He said he didn't want to raise taxes in a weak economy that would make it weaker! His energy policies depend on future technologies. It could be like turning lead into gold. It just may not ever be feasible. A better idea is to take the oil we have here, WHILE we work on the technologies. And a windfall profit tax on oil companies wil lsimply be passed along to consumers.

We have one of the highest corporate income tax rates in the world. It is easy to sya "I want health care for all, I want solar power for all, I want to give the money from the richest to the poorest". But none of those are actual policies....they are more philosophy than anything.

[black elk speaks]

In the comic shop yesterday (and on reading a comic which is about, should superheroes get involved in politics), I discovered that Savage Dragon is an Obama Supporter, and that Green Arrow is endorsing his local Dem candidate, while Lois Lane appears to be a Republicn and Superman "rrespects the privacy of the voting booth" and expects even his wife to not ask.

John McCain has his own comic, which appears to be his life-story. I'm not clear if Obama does too.

actually, obama's story reads like a political horror story. It may well have been written by stephen king.

[joecoolfrog]

It would take something monumental now to turnaround the huge lead that Obama enjoys ,McCain has simply got nothing left !

[pimpdave]

Barack Obama = United States of Fiscally-Responsible Diplomacy-First Federal Government & Win




John McCain = United State of Fail

[Skittles!]

When i was 12-13 i had Avengers #1, Daredevil #1, X-men #1, and a bunch of other oldies. Then i started high school and a girl i liked told me only geeks read comics, so i let my mother throw them out. Brilliant!

Moral of Story: Never listen to girls. Ever.

[Neoteny]

In the comic shop yesterday (and on reading a comic which is about, should superheroes get involved in politics), I discovered that Savage Dragon is an Obama Supporter, and that Green Arrow is endorsing his local Dem candidate, while Lois Lane appears to be a Republicn and Superman "rrespects the privacy of the voting booth" and expects even his wife to not ask.

John McCain has his own comic, which appears to be his life-story. I'm not clear if Obama does too.

actually, obama's story reads like a political horror story. It may well have been written by stephen king.

I would say that Stephen King is a little more creative than hackneyed conspiracy theories and unclever puns on a candidate's name.

[heavycola]

if your interested jbrettlip later on tonight or weekend (im on the other end of the globe) id be happy to put up the candidates positions on 3 different issues which i feel make part of a case for showing that obama is a better national interest vote than mccain. The issues deal with defense/national security, energy policy and the economy each of which are considered fairly important issues in the campaign. If youd like to talk about a different issue thas fine as well, but i believe you would be a bit more persuasive if you talked about things like why mccain is a better vote instead of parroting redistributionist statements.

issues? ISSUES? Good god man this is about so much more than issues! This is about electing a communist kenyan suicide bomber to the highest office!

[Juan_Bottom]

Well heavycola...if you would acctually get some news from somewhere other than "The View" you would know about all the idiotic things Obama has said over the last year. I will save you the trouble of having to look it up but here is the youtube video of Obama saying he has been to 57+ states.

Ok... now on to his policies?

Oh, and Biden said today that "jobs" is a 3 letter word. He said it twice.

Would you like to discuss all the flubs that McCain has made? OR since we are talking about VP candadites would you like to talk about Palin's? Like how she didn't know the Bush Doctrine, any of McCains "Maverick Policies," that you cannot see Russia from Alaska, doesn't believe in evolution, is afraid of witches, doesn't know her Constitution (The VP is not in the Legeslative branch), used the office of goverer to enact revenge on her ex-brother in law, or how all of her foriegn experience is from being neighbors with Russia and Putin landing at an Alaskan airport? You need to realize that there is a difference between flubbing up a line a few times and being a complete idiot-tool who's only being used in a political game of chess. And what I was forced to bring up here isn't even flubbed lines, it's hardcore flubbed fact.

It's also funny how you mentioned alleged "Rage" at Mccain rallies.

Unfortunitly, is true. I would say part of it is McCain and Palins fault because they have been forced to be so aggrssive towards Obama, even so far as to distort facts. Like the versions that you believe in.

Obama supporters are the ones wearing vulgar Tshirts about Palin, Acorn is commiting voter fraud across the country and Obama donated $800+ thousand to them and he is friends with an unrepentant domestic terrorist who bombed the pentagon, and the NY city Police department.

ACORN is a non-profit group who only try to get people to register.......... Unfortunitly for them, they target poor communities that tend to vote Democrat... Stop getting all your info from mainstream sources. The charges do not fit the crimes, and ACORN is fighting the allegations.
If you want to talk about real voter fraud then YOU SHOULD ALREADY be aware tht under the recent Republican-controlled congress ( was McCain a part of that?) Thousands of voter machines across this country were replaced by private, foreign owned electronic machines (especially in poorer counties ). Not only is that a clear violation of the law, but because they are private, the individual voting results DO NOT have to be released to the public. And to date, not a single ballot has. THERE IS NO PROOF that electronic voting is safe, or reliable.
Or perhaps we could talk about how Bush was put in office, after Gore won the general elections and Republicans lobbied the hell out of the electoral college to vote Bush anyway.
If you'd like to talk about being best friends with actual terrorists, perhaps you would like the conversation to flow into the Bush-Bin Laden connections? Or the Bush(grandfather)-Hitler connection? Or maybe McCains foriegn policy? Or even Palins?

He killed people and recently said "we didn't do enough".

Are we talking about McCain talking about Iran... or Afgahnistan or something?

This is documented Fact and Obama Lied....AGAIN in front of the whole country.

Politicians lie chief. Don't ignore McCains blatent lies. Or Palin's inabality to fact-check.

Sorry to inform you that you are misinformed and are so Blinded by either your party affiliation, ethnic background, or liberal tendencies that you won't admit any faults of his. Obama is a Socialist by promoting redistribution of wealth.

Why do I always here this crap about socialism? All you're doing is repeating what you have heard. This isn't comifrom you. Do you like being an internet f*cktard? WTF do you call Bush's bailout plan, that MCCAIN ENDORSED??? THAT IS socialism, and redistribition of wealth. How about McCain's tax plan? That IS re-distribution of wealth. Or how about his health care plan(more like lack thereof)? Again re-distribution of wealth. What about his energy plan? You guessed it, RE-DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH.
So if Heavycola is "Blinded by either your party affiliation, ethnic background, or liberal tendencies" then what the f*ck are you? And don't go around spouting "liberal" at people... it's then that people know that you don't know what you are talking about. You made your camp, and now you want this to be an "us vs them" scenario. You can be conservative, that's fine. But if you're gonna open your mouth, then you better know what you are talking about. And if you think that you do, then feel free to come back, and we can argue this in depth, rather than me just skimming.

It's also funny how the media says if white people don't vote for him like polls say they will it shows they are racist but the fact that 90+% of Blacks support him is somehow not a race problem.

You are twisting the facts. You're turning this into a straw man arguement.

Race should not be a factor while the following should: whether or not you have friends who are terrorists, if you are legally eligable to be president, and if organizations you promote have commited voter fraud on a massive scale.

This statement is so outrageously arrogant and ignorant. It's pretty clear ou want Obama to play by a different set of rules than McCain. You do not even know what you are talking about.

the voter fraud is an issue and clearly should be talked about in mainstream sources. Individuals responsible should have to answer to what should be justified questioning. The rest of the post is far less useful and rather ironic when considering that the poster is slamming someone for being innudated with information from only one view point, when in fact they are essentially reeling off page after page of a playbook from a different side. Just because the other guys view their backed candidates campaign and extensions with as critcal eye as you do, doesnt mean you arent guilty of similar crimes.

Nor would it hurt most mccain supporters to actually get back to why on the issues mccain is a better chief executive than obama. It is astonishing how rarely people come out in favor of mccain policies over obama's.

Ditto. This guy just annoyed me by his ignorance. His name should be PopeBenArn.

[Iliad]

if your interested jbrettlip later on tonight or weekend (im on the other end of the globe) id be happy to put up the candidates positions on 3 different issues which i feel make part of a case for showing that obama is a better national interest vote than mccain. The issues deal with defense/national security, energy policy and the economy each of which are considered fairly important issues in the campaign. If youd like to talk about a different issue thas fine as well, but i believe you would be a bit more persuasive if you talked about things like why mccain is a better vote instead of parroting redistributionist statements.

issues? ISSUES? Good god man this is about so much more than issues! This is about electing a communist kenyan suicide bomber to the highest office!

And he's a muslim!! And like his preacher is like crazy!!

[browng-08]

And when he was eight, some guy he talked to once was a terrorist! OMG!!!

(though, seriously people, there were worse out there at the time than the Weathermen...)

[PopeBenXVI]

I will be responding to many of the last few comments made so read what pertains to what you said. First Heavy, you said I was making up what I said about Obama and him saying he visited 57 states. I proved it to you and you don't even have the balls to admit I was right and you were the one who was misinformed.


First I should clarrify that out of a 10 being the best I only give mccain a 5. I am not a stanch mccain supporter. I also was and still am 100% against the bailout and disagreed with Bush and anyone else who voted for it. It is exactly what you said..."a redistribution of wealth" and it was not a bailout for us but a bailout for the friends of some in the government. In this case their were many more democrate fingers in this pot than republicans and Bush should have had the balls to call out all the Dems that defended fanny & fready a few years ago and said their was not problem when mccain for one that said their was a problem.

That being said, Obama's poicies and afiliations are very suspect which is a major difference between mccain and him. Sure every politician has something in the closet but Obama has a storage shed bursting at the seams with questionable people. Their have been many questionible "aquatences" of his from Rev Wright, Ayres, Acorn, communist leaders of other countries saying Obama would make a good president, and most recently connections from him to a african socialist dictator. These are things that can not be ignored when running for this office and you seem to be fine with him just saying, "I didn't know the guy that much" Bull!!

When you sit in a church for 20 years you can not tell me you did not hear and do not agree with the anti white, anti American, black supremist views. I don't think he had an Ipod in his ear during all the American hate speeches.

Acorn has been found to commit voter fraud for decades....this is not a new thing and Obama knows it. If you and Obama agree somthing needs to be done to ensure the entegrity of voter registration then every name they signed up this year should be varified before the election. They have already found over 200,000 in Ohio alone!!

Perhaps you could explain how mccains health care plan Tax plan & energy plan is redistribution of wealth. That does not even make sense? Also what are you talking about the "recent republican controled congress? The democrates have been in control of it for 2 years!

[jonesthecurl]

bless you your holeiness.

[mpjh]

Jezzz, guess we are going to get our first non-citizen president.

[heavycola]

Jezzz, guess we are going to get our first non-citizen president.

It will be almost five years to the day since california elected its first ever movie character. The voters who believed they were electing a cyborg weren't in the least bothered by his non-americanness.
You are live in kraaaaaazy country, mister.

[Juan_Bottom]

First Heavy, you said I was making up what I said about Obama and him saying he visited 57 states.

You know that I'm not Heavycola right?

I proved it to you and you don't even have the balls to admit I was right and you were the one who was misinformed.

And just in case, I never said anything about the subject, you did. I'm pretty sure that it just came out of left field.

First I should clarrify that out of a 10 being the best I only give mccain a 5.

I give him a 2.

I am not a stanch mccain supporter.

But still a supporter, and that is painfully honest. If you're not a staunch supporter then you shouldn't attack the other candidate so feverishly and with such zeal.

and it was not a bailout for us but a bailout for the friends of some in the government.

I don't really believe that is the case, I think it is a more like bold attempt to bankrupt the treasury.

and said their was not problem when mccain for one that said their was a problem.

Ok, again, you don't know what you're talking about. McCain lied about that, ABC news reported that McCain said in a press conference that 'he did not see this coming, no one could.' But yeah, during the second debate he said he tried to warn everybody. Buut that was AFTER he made the comment in the press conferance. The same goes for Obama.

from Rev Wright

Not only do I personally like Rev. Wright, mainstream media is even reporting now that the AIDs documentation trail that he was talking about, is probably legitamite. Remember, this isn't his theory, he only educated himself about it.

Acorn

Again, I'm not yet convinced that they're guilty. The media is trying to demonize them, but there isn't much in the news to back that up.

communist leaders of other countries saying Obama would make a good president

OOOOOOOHHHHHHH You really want to talk about which foriegner endorses who? Are you that informed? There's a website with the complete list for each candadite, but I can't remember it off hand...

These are things that can not be ignored when running for this office and you seem to be fine with him just saying, "I didn't know the guy that much" Bull!!

You haven't shown me that you are, and I'm not even discussing details!

When you sit in a church for 20 years you can not tell me you did not hear and do not agree with the anti white, anti American, black supremist views. I don't think he had an Ipod in his ear during all the American hate speeches.

None of that is true. Once again, you do not know what you are talking about. Wright is not a racist, or anti-American. there is a difference between true patriotism and whatever it is that you believe.

If you and Obama agree somthing needs to be done to ensure the entegrity of voter registration then every name they signed up this year should be varified before the election.

If you agree then you need to do something about McCains party.
And yes, I am active.

Acorn has been found to commit voter fraud for decades....

Oh yeah... and everyone knows it and no one does anything and it's a big conspiracy. Barack Obama is their leader and all the Disney charactors are it's board members.

already found over 200,000 in Ohio alone!!

Check the list, this is misrepresented. Many of those on the list are felons.
Is Acorn casting ballots for these people? No! They are just signing people up, not controlling the votes.

Perhaps you could explain how mccains health care plan Tax plan & energy plan is redistribution of wealth.

Certainly.
McCain favors opening up public and private lands for oil drilling to private companies(his campaign funders...). That is your oil. He plans on giving tax breaks to the corporations that will be doing the drilling. And the governments profits will be used to fund what now??? I assure you, the plan is not to build more schools or give tax breaks to anyone... It's not going to be used to pay the national debt... The money(the bulk of it) is going to be put into his national security plan... Which is identical to the Bush Doctrine. From there I think you get the idea. Although, it is a matter of record that he says a portion will be used to fund alternative energy research, through government grants... again, probably to corporations.

He has no health care plan, so the broken system stays the same. I think that you can understand how the wealth is being re-distributed there.

[mpjh]

Jezzz, guess we are going to get our first non-citizen president.

It will be almost five years to the day since california elected its first ever movie character. The voters who believed they were electing a cyborg weren't in the least bothered by his non-americanness.
You are live in kraaaaaazy country, mister.

Sorry man, you got your history wrong. Regan was first movie character elected governor in LaLa land.

[jonesthecurl]

Apparently Joe the Plumber's name is Sam. And he's not a licensed plumber.