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Postby Iz Man on Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:10 am

Guiscard wrote:Don't kid yourself that the US is the current global hegemony because of the 'freedom' and 'democracy' that you're so proud of.


Am I wrong in believing individual freedom & democracy is something to be proud of?
Look at the massive dollars the Middle East countries generate from oil and yet the regimes in power do little with it to help their own people. The Persians and Arabs were the pinnacle of civilization at one point. Now they have people in power that refuse to bring their societies out of the 10th century. Hording the wealth for the very few while their people live in fear and poverty.
Imagine what these Arab & Persian (in particular) countries could do with a free democratic society.
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Postby juggernaut17 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:14 am

Guiscard wrote:
ClessAlvein wrote:The United States is armed with bombs, not knowledge, and the administration's realization of their lack of knowledge is quickly filled by a plethora of stereotypes, panic, warmongering efforts, and an attempt to equate critics of the war with "unpatriotic."


Eloquent and insightful. Best snippet from this thread so far IMO.

@ Juggernaut17 - Why do you find the need to boast about a top class education? I very strongly doubt they taught you the racist and bigoted views you have espoused in other posts on this sight, so either you weren't listening or getting an education in a rich white-boy college trust fund establishment hasn't done you any good. Try experiencing the world a little.

@ Iz Man - I find it slightly insulting when the US claims democracy as its invention and the USA as the sole beacon of democracy in a heathen dictatorial world. There are democracies all over the world where people are given fairer treatment, better civil rights, a freer, healthier, cleaner, happier life... The US is not the only country which holds the rights of the citizen as central, and take a read of your patriot act for a lesson in how that's a fallacy anyway. As for American superpower status most serious scholars put that down to simple good fortune and a manipulation of the international post-war situation which prevented most of Europe from being anything but an American economic satellite for decades. A dictatorship could have manipulated the post-war situation just as beneficially as 'free' America did. Don't kid yourself that the US is the current global hegemony because of the 'freedom' and 'democracy' that you're so proud of.


Guiscard I would figure you and all your insight, would not be stereotypical or ignorant. I am by no means wealthy. Actually MY parents are in the lower middle class. I spend my time working to make some money and help the family out, studying, and investigating politics because it is my interest. So, don't you dare pull that rich white boy shit. I think it is funny that you are the elder, and contain more ignorance than a 16 year old boy.
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Postby alex_white101 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:32 am

juggernaut17 wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
ClessAlvein wrote:The United States is armed with bombs, not knowledge, and the administration's realization of their lack of knowledge is quickly filled by a plethora of stereotypes, panic, warmongering efforts, and an attempt to equate critics of the war with "unpatriotic."


Eloquent and insightful. Best snippet from this thread so far IMO.

@ Juggernaut17 - Why do you find the need to boast about a top class education? I very strongly doubt they taught you the racist and bigoted views you have espoused in other posts on this sight, so either you weren't listening or getting an education in a rich white-boy college trust fund establishment hasn't done you any good. Try experiencing the world a little.

@ Iz Man - I find it slightly insulting when the US claims democracy as its invention and the USA as the sole beacon of democracy in a heathen dictatorial world. There are democracies all over the world where people are given fairer treatment, better civil rights, a freer, healthier, cleaner, happier life... The US is not the only country which holds the rights of the citizen as central, and take a read of your patriot act for a lesson in how that's a fallacy anyway. As for American superpower status most serious scholars put that down to simple good fortune and a manipulation of the international post-war situation which prevented most of Europe from being anything but an American economic satellite for decades. A dictatorship could have manipulated the post-war situation just as beneficially as 'free' America did. Don't kid yourself that the US is the current global hegemony because of the 'freedom' and 'democracy' that you're so proud of.


Guiscard I would figure you and all your insight, would not be stereotypical or ignorant. I am by no means wealthy. Actually MY parents are in the lower middle class. I spend my time working to make some money and help the family out, studying, and investigating politics because it is my interest. So, don't you dare pull that rich white boy shit. I think it is funny that you are the elder, and contain more ignorance than a 16 year old boy.


ummm by that bold comment are you implying noone else does that?
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Postby juggernaut17 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:38 am

No I am not. But most at 16 years old do not. And I was replying to guiscard calling me a rich snob.
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Postby juggernaut17 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:44 am

And Guiscard, don't you dare call me a racist or a bigot. Did I not say 1,000,000 times that I was not siding with him. So, either you weren't listening or you were engulfed in your self love.
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Postby alex_white101 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:47 am

juggernaut17 wrote:No I am not. But most at 16 years old do not. And I was replying to guiscard calling me a rich snob.


im not quite so sure about that part. maybe it depends on where you come from? where i am every child is expected to make use of themselves and earn money for the family.........
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Postby juggernaut17 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:49 am

Well in america it is not the case, and not only that I spend over 4 hours a night on homework plus another 1-2 on research.
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Postby hulmey on Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:37 pm

go rich boy
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Postby hulmey on Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:43 pm

Iz-man climb off your high horse bro...I bet u live in a trailer park with your mom....
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Postby foolish_yeti on Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:12 pm

Iz Man wrote: Hording the wealth for the very few while their people live in fear and poverty.


Sounds awfully close to America.
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Postby Iz Man on Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:14 pm

foolish_yeti wrote:
Iz Man wrote: Hording the wealth for the very few while their people live in fear and poverty.


Sounds awfully close to America.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's why the U.S. currently has 4.4% unemployment.....

because we're all poor

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Postby foolish_yeti on Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:21 pm

Is it my time to laugh now?

Never said you were all poor- but take a look at the wealth distribution in the States before you shoot your mouth off....then take a look at how jacked up your country is on fear.
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Postby hulmey on Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:25 pm

IZ-MAN you are the reason people dis-like america....
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Postby Iz Man on Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:22 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Guiscard on Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:29 pm

juggernaut17 wrote:And Guiscard, don't you dare call me a racist or a bigot. Did I not say 1,000,000 times that I was not siding with him. So, either you weren't listening or you were engulfed in your self love.


I'll genuinely take back the racist thing. Have gone back and read posts and I was wrong. A justified insult for Reichzealand but perhaps not for you.
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Postby unriggable on Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:46 pm

Iz Man wrote:
foolish_yeti wrote:
Iz Man wrote: Hording the wealth for the very few while their people live in fear and poverty.


Sounds awfully close to America.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's why the U.S. currently has 4.4% unemployment.....

because we're all poor

:roll:


No the fucking republicans want a fucking flat tax so they can keep spending their money on hookers to do lines of coke off their ass.
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Postby ritz627 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:47 pm

Iz Man wrote:Oh silly me......

I get it.
The U.S. is just ooohh soooo baaaaad......
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

That's why MILLIONS emigrate to the U.S. EVERY YEAR.
Both legally & illegally (that's another thread).
More people want to (and do) come to the U.S. than ANY other country in the world. Period. Undisputed.



Inside the country its fine, its outside the country thats a concern, and thats what we're talking about here. Many people, not all, want to move here because thier country under poor conditions and they feel that America could provide them with economic oppurtunity and social freedoms. What we should be doing (instead of building enough nuclear weapons to induce a nuclear 300 times over) is to be offering more humanitarian aid to these countries. We should be helping more countries, not destroying them.
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Postby hulmey on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:09 pm

well said to the above post
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Postby Stopper on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:15 pm

ritz627 wrote:Inside the country its fine, its outside the country thats a concern, and thats what we're talking about here. Many people, not all, want to move here because thier country under poor conditions and they feel that America could provide them with economic oppurtunity and social freedoms. What we should be doing (instead of building enough nuclear weapons to induce a nuclear 300 times over) is to be offering more humanitarian aid to these countries. We should be helping more countries, not destroying them.


Yes. And there's quite a few people you could say that to in Europe, too, when they start moaning about immigrants.
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Postby juggernaut17 on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:17 pm

Iz Man wrote:
foolish_yeti wrote:
Iz Man wrote: Hording the wealth for the very few while their people live in fear and poverty.


Sounds awfully close to America.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's why the U.S. currently has 4.4% unemployment.....

because we're all poor

:roll:


I would also like to say, that the Unites States is virtually 100% employed. The 4.4% are those that can't or won't work.

Guiscard, apology accepted.
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Postby Darth Lestat on Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:55 pm

The mere fact you stated that you yourself are English the origins in which you come from can be deduced to a few locations im going to presum somewhere in the UK. Although the british empire used to be vast and far reaching i.e. Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, China, Parts of Africa, still South Africa, Canada, and many Islands in the Pacific Rim at that time the United Kingdome was ruled by a Dictator. Parliment Existed but was only a poor attempt at Democracy something not created by Americans but the Romans thousands of years before any arrogant nation today. based from roma italia the romans developled many technologies tactics methods and ideals we use today even the name America comes from a later explorer Amerigo Vespucci. however just like america is becoming now britain fed off of the third world countries only at that time there was no thirdworld countries they were colonies but are the closest thing into comparison the English overtaxed them and fed off of them much like the US does now what happend the American Colony broke off and revolted against a so called Evil Empire (sound familiar.) America started on its own after winning the war with the aid of Britains long time enemy France. but even with new ideals of freedome rolling about you still had revolutions in the forms of piracy people who wished to sail the oceans under there own laws (but that is niether here nor there) so America started of rough at first then revised there government that would later be claimed for there own when in fact it was Napolean who first started this ideal in the modern era at the time. time rolled on Britain became a Constitutional Monarchy meaning there Royal Family is for show and public appearence but there parliment is the real government. as for the flaws and negative points you listed dureing the time of your mass empire while you had high class you also had peasents. America is known for creating the middle class your not too poor to live but not too rich to be lazy. America has had its problems but think it is one of the youngest countries on the planet at 231 years old it is considered one of the most powerful countries on the planet (anyone seeing a patern here) your rants against internet porn are trivial and pointless if im not mistaken Stockholm, Sweden and Amsterdam hold those titles and never the less it is free will as well as free speech that allow porn to exist people hate it people love it. it all depends on you me personally im better off with the real thing. and porn is not a new thing it started in 1888 when the camera was invented when i was born porn had been around for exactly 100 years i was born into a world of playboy and penthouse and hustler but i was also born into a world where i am allowed to express my views and opinions where i can sleep without the fear of some one trying to invade my country or house just to kill me because of my beliefs or the way i look or dress i am a goth im sure if many people had there way they would rid the world of us all. America does butt into other buisness but there intentions are noble. and as for the European comments and them being pussies take into consideration America was untouched in WWII the battle field was Asia Africa and EUROPE . Europe was destroyed so when the communist empire offered help Europe took it but you should know your history about that so i presume you know it was the British the French AND the Americans that rebuilt Western Europe whilst the United Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR) did nothing. now i think thats enough streams of randome thoughts and points i doubt anyone has read this far. oh since you claim to be English D.IsleBrown i presume by your ignorance and disreguard for any sort of knowledge i can safely say that you are a Chavz enjoy and have a nice day
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point being

Postby Darth Lestat on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:00 pm

cool your heals america will one day step down and another will take its place but think of this one. when Rome collapsed teh western world went into 1000 years of dark ages America is involved everywhere think of what will happen then an example is the Phillipines US bases pulled out and the country is in complete and utter chaos provinces warring with each other no set stable anything.
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Postby Guiscard on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:10 pm

Darth Lestat wrote:The mere fact you stated that you yourself are English the origins in which you come from can be deduced to a few locations im going to presum somewhere in the UK.

Although the british empire used to be vast and far reaching i.e. Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, China, Parts of Africa, still South Africa, Canada, and many Islands in the Pacific Rim at that time the United Kingdome was ruled by a Dictator. Parliment Existed but was only a poor attempt at Democracy something not created by Americans but the Romans thousands of years before any arrogant nation today.

based from roma italia the romans developled many technologies tactics methods and ideals we use today even the name America comes from a later explorer Amerigo Vespucci.

however just like america is becoming now britain fed off of the third world countries only at that time there was no thirdworld countries they were colonies but are the closest thing into comparison the English overtaxed them and fed off of them much like the US does now what happend the American Colony broke off and revolted against a so called Evil Empire (sound familiar.)

America started on its own after winning the war with the aid of Britains long time enemy France. but even with new ideals of freedome rolling about you still had revolutions in the forms of piracy people who wished to sail the oceans under there own laws (but that is niether here nor there) so America started of rough at first then revised there government that would later be claimed for there own when in fact it was Napolean who first started this ideal in the modern era at the time. time rolled on Britain became a Constitutional Monarchy meaning there Royal Family is for show and public appearence but there parliment is the real government.

as for the flaws and negative points you listed dureing the time of your mass empire while you had high class you also had peasents. America is known for creating the middle class your not too poor to live but not too rich to be lazy.

America has had its problems but think it is one of the youngest countries on the planet at 231 years old it is considered one of the most powerful countries on the planet (anyone seeing a patern here)

your rants against internet porn are trivial and pointless if im not mistaken Stockholm, Sweden and Amsterdam hold those titles and never the less it is free will as well as free speech that allow porn to exist people hate it people love it. it all depends on you me personally im better off with the real thing. and porn is not a new thing it started in 1888 when the camera was invented when i was born porn had been around for exactly 100 years i was born into a world of playboy and penthouse and hustler but i was also born into a world where i am allowed to express my views and opinions where i can sleep without the fear of some one trying to invade my country or house just to kill me because of my beliefs or the way i look or dress i am a goth im sure if many people had there way they would rid the world of us all.

America does butt into other buisness but there intentions are noble. and as for the European comments and them being pussies take into consideration America was untouched in WWII the battle field was Asia Africa and EUROPE . Europe was destroyed so when the communist empire offered help Europe took it but you should know your history about that so i presume you know it was the British the French AND the Americans that rebuilt Western Europe whilst the United Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR) did nothing. now i think thats enough streams of randome thoughts and points i doubt anyone has read this far. oh since you claim to be English D.IsleBrown i presume by your ignorance and disreguard for any sort of knowledge i can safely say that you are a Chavz enjoy and have a nice day
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I actually gave up half way through... Try punctuation, paragraphs (I added some) and coherent arguments rather than the whole 'stream of consciousness' thing. As for your arguments they seem to be complete idiocy, no offence. There are so many factual errors there's no point going through and correcting them. Weird that you drifted into a short history of pornography for a while...
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Postby Darth Lestat on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:12 pm

say what you will you say there are factual errors point them out let me see them
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Postby Darth Lestat on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:13 pm

english has never been my strong point and it was a randome stream of thought.
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