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What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby nietzsche on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:50 pm

I would give life sentence to a murderer but I would give 20 years of being tortured by AoN to rapists and kidnappers.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby nietzsche on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:53 pm

THat was me being human, vengeful.

But philosophically speaking, not even murderers should suffer from punishment by us. They should be restrained from causing us harm, but punishment is not necessary. Put them in an island where we wouldn't see them again would be enough.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:38 pm

raping is worse because of the emotional damage, physical damage and other shit that can happen.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby nietzsche on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:45 pm

Army of GOD wrote:raping is worse because of the emotional damage, physical damage and other shit that can happen.


But you ended up fairly ok.
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Postby Army of GOD on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:52 pm

Your mom isn't that intimidating
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby KoolBak on Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:54 pm

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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:00 pm

killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:34 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.


if you were captured by the Vietcong would you rather be killed immediately or tortured with the hope of being saved?
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby patches70 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:47 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.


if you were captured by the Vietcong would you rather be killed immediately or tortured with the hope of being saved?


If a robber trapped you in a dead end alley, would you rather he poked you in the ass or put a bullet in your head?
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:55 pm

patches70 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.


if you were captured by the Vietcong would you rather be killed immediately or tortured with the hope of being saved?


If a robber trapped you in a dead end alley, would you rather he poked you in the ass or put a bullet in your head?


how big is his dick?
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby MeDeFe on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:56 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
patches70 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.


if you were captured by the Vietcong would you rather be killed immediately or tortured with the hope of being saved?


If a robber trapped you in a dead end alley, would you rather he poked you in the ass or put a bullet in your head?


how big is his dick?


Let's say "perfectly average".
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby nietzsche on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:58 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
patches70 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.


if you were captured by the Vietcong would you rather be killed immediately or tortured with the hope of being saved?


If a robber trapped you in a dead end alley, would you rather he poked you in the ass or put a bullet in your head?


how big is his dick?


his manners are more important.. he can violently rape you or he can rape you in gentle, lovely way
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:18 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.


if you were captured by the Vietcong would you rather be killed immediately or tortured with the hope of being saved?


Vietcong? dunno what the odds are of being saved.

Looking at it rationally now, I'd like to say I'd take the chance of being saved. When I have fucking bamboo under my nails though I'd probably chicken out.

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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:49 am

Army of GOD wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:killing is worse cause, y'know, you're dead.


if you were captured by the Vietcong would you rather be killed immediately or tortured with the hope of being saved?


If you're saved you can fail at becoming US president 3+ times
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby pmchugh on Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:30 am

Killing is worse. I think saying otherwise would disrespect rape victims.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby natty dread on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:01 am

It depends whether the victim wants to live or not. I mean, if the victim has a really horrible life and thon suffers horrible pains like 24/7 all the time, then killing probably wouldn't seem so bad.

Otherwise, yeah, killing is probably worse because you're not going to live after that, you're going to be dead forever.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby greenoaks on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:11 am

do they have aids?

i'd prefer not to rape someone with aids
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby natty dread on Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:17 am

greenoaks wrote:i'd prefer not to rape someone with aids


Yeah, usually guys rape with their dicks
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby greenoaks on Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:24 am

natty dread wrote:
greenoaks wrote:i'd prefer not to rape someone with aids


Yeah, usually guys rape with their dicks

i know the chance of contracting aids is less if you are a guy penetrating male/female but i'd rather not risk it
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby nietzsche on Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:42 pm

It surprises me that kidnapping is not considered as bad as killing or raping by you.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:59 am

nietzsche wrote:I would give life sentence to a murderer but I would give 20 years of being tortured by AoN to rapists and kidnappers.

Details are important. The people involved matter.

A tortured death is probably among most people's worst night mares, but a quick death might not be even difficult for the person involved, (depending on your religious views) per se by the person involved, particularly if it comes without warning. IN many ways, the greatest harm in death is more to those who survive.

On the other hand, a woman raped in many cultures, finds here life at virtual end, ruined. Men who are raped may fare even worse. Even in the US, there can be stigma attached to someone who is raped, particularly if male. Beyond that, the way the rape happens and the personality of the woman/man involved determine the impact it will have. For some people, the impact will last a lifetime, even drive someone to suicide. Other people can overcome extreme difficult and even wind up stronger, in some ways perhaps "better" people.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:02 am

nietzsche wrote:It surprises me that kidnapping is not considered as bad as killing or raping by you.

If you are talking about taking and keeping a child, I would absolutely put it up there, because you are inherently harming a child and the parents for life. A child who is just "missing" cannot even be grieved like a child known to be dead.

If, however, you are talking about the more classic taking an adult, holding them for ransom, then if they are not also raped or murdered/tortured, it depends heavily on the length of time involved as well as the basic treatment the kidnapped recieve.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby pmchugh on Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:33 am

There is no doubt rape is terrible and has a horrific mental effect lasting an entire persons life but that person is still capable of falling in love, of having fun and eventually maybe even being happy with their life. It is a terrible thing for anyone to suffer, but to say it is worse than death to me belittles the inner strength that so many women (and men) show in the way they live their lives after such events.
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:37 am

pmchugh wrote:There is no doubt rape is terrible and has a horrific mental effect lasting an entire persons life but that person is still capable of falling in love, of having fun and eventually maybe even being happy with their life. It is a terrible thing for anyone to suffer, but to say it is worse than death to me belittles the inner strength that so many women (and men) show in the way they live their lives after such events.

But that depends highly on the individual. Many women (and men) commit suicide post rape. In that case, there might not be much distinction. Also, it matters whether you think death is the ultimate end or just another stage in life (a religious question).
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Re: What is worst, killing someone or raping someone?

Postby natty dread on Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:47 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17416426

Morocco's penal code allows a rapist to marry his victim if she is a minor as a way of avoiding prosecution.

A 16-year-old girl, Amina Filali, killed herself a week ago after being severely beaten during a forced marriage to her rapist.

The protesters held signs saying, "The law has killed Amina".

The parents of Amina Filali were at the protest, says the BBC's Nora Fakim, in the Moroccan capital, Rabat.

They say their daughter was pressured by a local court into marrying her rapist, who then abused her.

She died after swallowing rat poison on 10 March.
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