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rMoney commits felony

Postby bedub1 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:49 pm

rMoney has filled out two government forms, which contradict each other. On one hand he claims he left Bain Capital in 1999. On the other hand he claims he didn't leave until 2002. Either way he's committed a felony by lying on these federal forms. I hope he goes to jail. Any normal person would, but since he's so rich, I doubt anything will happen.
SEC Filings wrote:Bain Capital's SEC filings show Mitt Romney remained the firm’s "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" up until 2002.

Romney Public Financial Disclosure Report, Aug. 11, 2011 wrote: Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby notyou2 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:54 pm

Conrad Black went to US jail for less.


Impeach Romney.
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Lootifer on Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:56 pm

lol >.<
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:14 pm

The gloves are officially off!

This might turn out to be one of the nastiest campaigns in history.
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:40 pm

Or Romney might just be the male Sarah Palin, except with more flip-flopping and less winking.

He did this, no doubt, to try to distance himself from Bain's inconvenient policy of sending America's jobs overseas.

OH and also to distance himself from their lusty program of burdening down their own businesses with debt; through keeping all profits instead of paying down the debt. They'd just let it fail and close shop.
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:43 pm

Nobody really gives a F about Bain, just like many don't give a shit about Haliburton anymore. It's a losing talking point
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby notyou2 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:15 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:Or Romney might just be the male Sarah Palin, except with more flip-flopping and less winking.

He did this, no doubt, to try to distance himself from Bain's inconvenient policy of sending America's jobs overseas.

OH and also to distance himself from their lusty program of burdening down their own businesses with debt; through keeping all profits instead of paying down the debt. They'd just let it fail and close shop.



Do you think Rommey is a maverick too?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Lootifer on Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:56 pm

Personally id be voting the highest independent on offer.
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:01 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:Or Romney might just be the male Sarah Palin, except with more flip-flopping and less winking.


Romney doesn't scare me like Palin did. I look at Romney's policies and I think I could be ok with him (aside from his campaigning positions). I found Palin to be unconscionable.

(As an aside, I've never heard of him referred to as rMoney...I thought this thread was going to be about a rapper or something.)
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Frigidus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:43 pm

Lootifer wrote:Personally id be voting the highest independent on offer.


Yup. Just a matter of choosing the one I like most. I'm currently leaning towards writing in Bernie Sanders even though he isn't running.
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Lootifer on Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:09 pm

How does it work with your guys independents?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:30 am

Why has the discussion turned to Sarah Palin?

I usually have marginal interest in elections, but this actually seems interesting. I mean, is this felony legit? What is the minimum sentence for such a thing?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Dibbun on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:35 am

A person who lies, cheats, and steals to make their company money as CEO will use the same tactics to make their country strong as president.

Results > Ethics

Romney 2012
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:50 am

bedub1 wrote:rMoney has filled out two government forms, which contradict each other. On one hand he claims he left Bain Capital in 1999. On the other hand he claims he didn't leave until 2002. Either way he's committed a felony by lying on these federal forms. I hope he goes to jail. Any normal person would, but since he's so rich, I doubt anything will happen.
SEC Filings wrote:Bain Capital's SEC filings show Mitt Romney remained the firm’s "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" up until 2002.

Romney Public Financial Disclosure Report, Aug. 11, 2011 wrote: Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.


Hmm, by "active role," do they mean, "Romney still retained a job title, but he didn't actively do anything at Bain Capital"?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:16 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:rMoney has filled out two government forms, which contradict each other. On one hand he claims he left Bain Capital in 1999. On the other hand he claims he didn't leave until 2002. Either way he's committed a felony by lying on these federal forms. I hope he goes to jail. Any normal person would, but since he's so rich, I doubt anything will happen.
SEC Filings wrote:Bain Capital's SEC filings show Mitt Romney remained the firm’s "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" up until 2002.

Romney Public Financial Disclosure Report, Aug. 11, 2011 wrote: Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.


Hmm, by "active role," do they mean, "Romney still retained a job title, but he didn't actively do anything at Bain Capital"?


By job title, do you mean being the boss? The guy in charge?

chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.

Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”

Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.


A former SEC commissioner told the Globe that the SEC documents listing Romney as Bain’s chief executive between 1999 and 2002 cannot be dismissed so easily. “You can’t say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing,” said Roberta S. Karmel, now a professor at Brooklyn Law School.

“It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain’s operations,” Karmel continued. “Was he getting paid? He’s the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?”


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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:39 am

So either fraud, or at best a lie, no?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Night Strike on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:01 am

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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:19 am

[quote="Night Strike"]This is another lie the Obama administration is throwing out there to attack Romney.

If you had to put it into your own words, rather than acting as a mouthpiece for the Repubs and knee-jerk attacking Obama, what do you think?

Big question, I know, but take the idea that this is a Satanic Obama thing of the table.

Could you phrase your opinion on what Romney did without that? Or would you be reduced to saying "it doesn't matter"?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Night Strike on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:22 am

Symmetry wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This is another lie the Obama administration is throwing out there to attack Romney.


If you had to put it into your own words, rather than acting as a mouthpiece for the Repubs and knee-jerk attacking Obama, what do you think?

Big question, I know, but take the idea that this is a Satanic Obama thing of the table.

Could you phrase your opinion on what Romney did without that? Or would you be reduced to saying "it doesn't matter"?


I'm acting as a mouthpiece for Republicans? I posted three different websites: 1 liberal, 1 conservative, and 1 moderate (although factcheck leans left). They all stated that the attack is essentially unsubstantiated and is being falsely trumped-up by Obama's team.

And I have never said Obama is Satanic. :roll:
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:24 am

Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This is another lie the Obama administration is throwing out there to attack Romney.


If you had to put it into your own words, rather than acting as a mouthpiece for the Repubs and knee-jerk attacking Obama, what do you think?

Big question, I know, but take the idea that this is a Satanic Obama thing of the table.

Could you phrase your opinion on what Romney did without that? Or would you be reduced to saying "it doesn't matter"?


I'm acting as a mouthpiece for Republicans? I posted three different websites: 1 liberal, 1 conservative, and 1 moderate (although factcheck leans left). They all stated that the attack is essentially unsubstantiated and is being falsely trumped-up by Obama's team.

And I have never said Obama is Satanic. :roll:


And I never said that you had, but thanks for the smiley.

Symmetry wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This is another lie the Obama administration is throwing out there to attack Romney.


If you had to put it into your own words, rather than acting as a mouthpiece for the Repubs and knee-jerk attacking Obama, what do you think?

Big question, I know, but take the idea that this is a Satanic Obama thing of the table.

Could you phrase your opinion on what Romney did without that? Or would you be reduced to saying "it doesn't matter"?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:29 am

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:rMoney has filled out two government forms, which contradict each other. On one hand he claims he left Bain Capital in 1999. On the other hand he claims he didn't leave until 2002. Either way he's committed a felony by lying on these federal forms. I hope he goes to jail. Any normal person would, but since he's so rich, I doubt anything will happen.
SEC Filings wrote:Bain Capital's SEC filings show Mitt Romney remained the firm’s "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" up until 2002.

Romney Public Financial Disclosure Report, Aug. 11, 2011 wrote: Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.


Hmm, by "active role," do they mean, "Romney still retained a job title, but he didn't actively do anything at Bain Capital"?


By job title, do you mean being the boss? The guy in charge?

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My good man, that would depend on the "job description," but not the job title itself. <sleazy grin>
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:31 am

Should politicians be charged with libel and/or slander when they commit such an act against other politicians or political candidates?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:42 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:rMoney has filled out two government forms, which contradict each other. On one hand he claims he left Bain Capital in 1999. On the other hand he claims he didn't leave until 2002. Either way he's committed a felony by lying on these federal forms. I hope he goes to jail. Any normal person would, but since he's so rich, I doubt anything will happen.
SEC Filings wrote:Bain Capital's SEC filings show Mitt Romney remained the firm’s "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" up until 2002.

Romney Public Financial Disclosure Report, Aug. 11, 2011 wrote: Mr. Romney retired from Bain Capital on February 11, 1999 to head the Salt Lake Organizing Committee. Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.


Hmm, by "active role," do they mean, "Romney still retained a job title, but he didn't actively do anything at Bain Capital"?


By job title, do you mean being the boss? The guy in charge?

chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.

Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”

Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.


A former SEC commissioner told the Globe that the SEC documents listing Romney as Bain’s chief executive between 1999 and 2002 cannot be dismissed so easily. “You can’t say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing,” said Roberta S. Karmel, now a professor at Brooklyn Law School.

“It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain’s operations,” Karmel continued. “Was he getting paid? He’s the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?”


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My good man, that would depend on the "job description," but not the job title itself. <sleazy grin>


No need for the spoiler tags, old bean, we're all friends here. If he was assuming the title, and taking the money, and being the total shareholder, as all of the records say apart from the Romney campaign, who seem to want to pretend the public records either don't exist or were false, what do you think he was being paid for?
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:24 am

For being Mitt Romney. They love the guy so much that they gave him money.
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Re: rMoney commits felony

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:26 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:For being Mitt Romney. They love the guy so much that they gave him money.


Aye, the dude is a gem.
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