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Lootifer wrote:thegreekdog wrote:So if you have a child, it would be perfectly okay for someone to kill that child before he or she reaches 12 months of age? Note, I'm not talking about a child; I'm talking about your child.
That's easy, so easy I feel I even have the right to answer although I have no children myself.
Firstly; no, it is not ok.
Second; neither is abortion. Abortion is a terrible thing.
But in both cases there are certain scenarios where I believe the actions to be tolerable.
Sure in NS's eyes my tolerance makes me a murderer. But then again, the catholic church murders people every day through intolerance, so that little sword cuts both ways.
rishaed wrote:Not all law has to be written, to be considered law. If you read what it says about the Einsatzgruppen, their sole job was to kill all Jews, as well as Soviet commisars and those considered "mentally defective". Considering that Hitler was responsible as the leader of the armed forces it means that such a group could only be allowed by him or one of his direct subordinates.
Unwritten law is also a part of "law" but considered so obvious that it doesn't need written down.
PLAYER57832 wrote:premio53 wrote:Tell that to an innocent unborn being ripped apart in his mother's womb by greedy doctors and thrown away like a piece of trash!
In China.. you have a point.
Dr. Timothy Rohrig, a toxicologist and director of Sedgwick County Regional Forensic Science Center in Kansas, was set to testify first thing Tuesday regarding the amount of Demerol found in Mognarās system following her death.
Prosecutors say Mongar was given 75 mg of Demerol during her visit as well as dosages of Promethazine and Diazepam. Untrained staffers administered the drugs, according to the prosecution.
McMahon argued it was unfair to extrapolate the amount of a drug was found in a personās system following their death. He claimed the conclusions drawn have no scientific basis.
McMahon got into a heated debate with Judge Jeffrey Minehart over the last-minute challenge. Minutes later, just outside the third-floor courtroom, Prosecutor Joanne Pescatore got into an argument with McMahon. That fight ended in a shouting match.
Judge Minehart had Rohrig take the stand for questioning without the jury present. After hearing both side's arguments, Minehart ruled that the jury could hear Rohrig's testimony and the findings of the toxicology report.
Rohrig testified toxicology results show 710 micrograms-per-liter of Demerol in Mongar's system after her death. The expert says that level means the woman was given more than the 150 mg of Demerol in the span before her death.
On cross-examination, McMahon questioned the post-mortem analysis. The defense attorney showed medical journals that claimed the method used by Rohrig to determine the amount of drugs in Mongar isn't definitive.
Prosecutors say Gosnell performed illegal, late-term abortions and delivered premature babies inside the clinic, snipping their spinal cords to kill them. They also claim he stored fetal remains throughout the facility. Blood-stained rooms and equipment, dirty instruments and unlicensed, untrained staff were also uncovered inside by investigators, according to court documents. District Attorney Seth Williams called the clinic a āhouse of horrorsā in a 2011 grand jury report.
Karnamaya Mongar, 41, died after allegedly being given a lethal dose of pain killers and anesthesia during a procedure in 2009.
āYou would see the young women coming out of there at 12 in the morning after he had done the procedures,ā said a man who refused to give his name.
Describing himself as a ācommunity passerbyā whoās lived in the neighborhood for 40 years, the man says he would see women bent over in pain as they walked from the building late at night.
āI donāt think this kind of procedure, this kind of outpatient procedure should be allowed in a neighborhood clinic. It should be done in a hospital.ā
The man says he once visited the clinic to get a physical for a job. He went there, he says, because it was closest to his home. Gosnell performed the exam.
āThere was an uncomfortable clammy feeling in there and, you know, it just didnāt sit right with me,ā he said.
Knowing the savagery that takes place in abortion clinics around the nation, I was surprised to learn that one of the worst Planned Parenthood clinics is seeking medical students for abortion training.
Dr. Eric Schaff, the doctor at the Wilmington Planned Parenthood clinic in Delaware has begun trying to recruit medical students to come and train with him in the art of female butchery. Schaff has a shining medical record that should attract the worst medical students available. In August of 2005, New York censured and reprimanded him along with ordering him to pay $5,000 for falsifying medical records. Not to be deterred from his quest to slaughter the female species, Schaff took his skills to Pennsylvania and Delaware.
At the Wilmington Planned Parenthood clinic, there have been four botched abortions in the last five weeks:
Feb. 8, 2013 ā The clinic had to call 9-1-1 because they had a female patient that was unconscious and having difficulty breathing and needed to be bagged. There were two doctors and three nurses on hand and yet they still needed to call 9-1-1.
Feb. 16, 2013 ā The clinic had to call 9-1-1- because they had a female patient that was bleeding more than the doctors could handle.
Mar. 8, 2013 ā A female patient underwent an incomplete abortion at the clinic that required hospitalization 5 days later. Doctors at the hospital discovered fetal tissues, including a leg and foot, still inside the woman.
Mar. 13, 2013 ā A female patient was observed being loaded into an ambulance from a local hospital. During the filming of this incident, 63 year old Rae Stabosz, was assaulted by a woman that came out of the Planned Parenthood office and the assault was caught on Raeās video.
tzor wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:premio53 wrote:Tell that to an innocent unborn being ripped apart in his mother's womb by greedy doctors and thrown away like a piece of trash!
In China.. you have a point.
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No my dear player, China has nothing compared to the US. They just force abortions. From what I can tell, those abortions are generally safe.
The whole profession seems to attract Sweeny Todd more than Dr. Kildare.
Lootifer wrote:An earlier post with I feel is appropriate for Premio (Vicroys multi?).Lootifer wrote:thegreekdog wrote:So if you have a child, it would be perfectly okay for someone to kill that child before he or she reaches 12 months of age? Note, I'm not talking about a child; I'm talking about your child.
That's easy, so easy I feel I even have the right to answer although I have no children myself.
Firstly; no, it is not ok.
Second; neither is abortion. Abortion is a terrible thing.
But in both cases there are certain scenarios where I believe the actions to be tolerable.
Sure in NS's eyes my tolerance makes me a murderer. But then again, the catholic church murders people every day through intolerance, so that little sword cuts both ways.
patches70 wrote:Save the World and off yourself JR! I can think of no other act that could be more selfless. After all, you've participated in "fucking the planet" and raping the oceans and you are yet another mouth to feed. We have to lighten the ship after all, might as well start with you.
Johnny Rockets wrote:patches70 wrote:Save the World and off yourself JR! I can think of no other act that could be more selfless. After all, you've participated in "fucking the planet" and raping the oceans and you are yet another mouth to feed. We have to lighten the ship after all, might as well start with you.
Actually I'm quite involved in removing my footprint and running an entirely green agriculture business that provides a sustainable zero ecological impact food source and promotes and protects pollinators, you assuming soap box Zealot.
As for your stance against paying for abortions or free contraceptives....do the math Patches. What do you think costs more in the long run? A simple medical procedure, a box of prophylactics, and a prescription of birth control pills......or social programs and assistance for a fucked up unwanted kid that was raised by a crack-whore?
I've personally sponsored 6 voluntary sterilizations, thank you very much....and will continue to provide the funds for 2 a year. So it makes sense to "stay on the ship" and help bail instead of being part of the selfish problem.
Johnny Rockets
Remember: http://www.projectprevention.org
Fight Child Poverty and Neglect at the source.
thegreekdog wrote:Lootifer wrote:An earlier post with I feel is appropriate for Premio (Vicroys multi?).Lootifer wrote:thegreekdog wrote:So if you have a child, it would be perfectly okay for someone to kill that child before he or she reaches 12 months of age? Note, I'm not talking about a child; I'm talking about your child.
That's easy, so easy I feel I even have the right to answer although I have no children myself.
Firstly; no, it is not ok.
Second; neither is abortion. Abortion is a terrible thing.
But in both cases there are certain scenarios where I believe the actions to be tolerable.
Sure in NS's eyes my tolerance makes me a murderer. But then again, the catholic church murders people every day through intolerance, so that little sword cuts both ways.
My question was directed specifically at Metsfanmax. It doesn't really have any other application (unless you agree with Mets).
Lootifer wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Lootifer wrote:An earlier post with I feel is appropriate for Premio (Vicroys multi?).Lootifer wrote:thegreekdog wrote:So if you have a child, it would be perfectly okay for someone to kill that child before he or she reaches 12 months of age? Note, I'm not talking about a child; I'm talking about your child.
That's easy, so easy I feel I even have the right to answer although I have no children myself.
Firstly; no, it is not ok.
Second; neither is abortion. Abortion is a terrible thing.
But in both cases there are certain scenarios where I believe the actions to be tolerable.
Sure in NS's eyes my tolerance makes me a murderer. But then again, the catholic church murders people every day through intolerance, so that little sword cuts both ways.
My question was directed specifically at Metsfanmax. It doesn't really have any other application (unless you agree with Mets).
I am less ruthless/more touchy-feely than Mets but essentially we share similar views.
I'd imagine he agrees (roughly) with my answer to your question.
PLAYER57832 wrote:You are a total idiot.
Lootifer wrote:Er i'd say that the main drive of that campaign is for teenagers to make sensible decisions (either abstain if you are religious or use protection if not). While it is applicable to abortion as well I would guess that it is very much secondary.
Good use of manipulation on the side of the pro-life people though; well played.
Lootifer wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Lootifer wrote:An earlier post with I feel is appropriate for Premio (Vicroys multi?).Lootifer wrote:thegreekdog wrote:So if you have a child, it would be perfectly okay for someone to kill that child before he or she reaches 12 months of age? Note, I'm not talking about a child; I'm talking about your child.
That's easy, so easy I feel I even have the right to answer although I have no children myself.
Firstly; no, it is not ok.
Second; neither is abortion. Abortion is a terrible thing.
But in both cases there are certain scenarios where I believe the actions to be tolerable.
Sure in NS's eyes my tolerance makes me a murderer. But then again, the catholic church murders people every day through intolerance, so that little sword cuts both ways.
My question was directed specifically at Metsfanmax. It doesn't really have any other application (unless you agree with Mets).
I am less ruthless/more touchy-feely than Mets but essentially we share similar views.
I'd imagine he agrees (roughly) with my answer to your question.
Lootifer wrote:So we should make abortions illegal; causing the black market to provide the services... Yes that will make things much better.
GeneralRisk wrote:WHAT A BUNCH OF SICK FUCKS. GL IN HELL.
Frigidus wrote:john9blue wrote:
you are correct, most pro-choice advocates are not intellectually honest or capable enough to take their views to their logical conclusion (that newborn children and often other types of fully-grown humans should be able to be murdered)
Much like how most pro-life advocates can't formulate logical arguments without utilizing hyperbole and strawmen.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Lootifer wrote:So we should make abortions illegal; causing the black market to provide the services... Yes that will make things much better.
Are you serious? Prohibitions are so effective! Look at the drug war and tell me that it's not working!
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Lootifer wrote:So we should make abortions illegal; causing the black market to provide the services... Yes that will make things much better.
Are you serious? Prohibitions are so effective! Look at the drug war and tell me that it's not working!
i bet making guns illegal will make things better too! not like there's a black market for those things anyway...
thegreekdog wrote:Johnny Rockets wrote:patches70 wrote:Save the World and off yourself JR! I can think of no other act that could be more selfless. After all, you've participated in "fucking the planet" and raping the oceans and you are yet another mouth to feed. We have to lighten the ship after all, might as well start with you.
Actually I'm quite involved in removing my footprint and running an entirely green agriculture business that provides a sustainable zero ecological impact food source and promotes and protects pollinators, you assuming soap box Zealot.
As for your stance against paying for abortions or free contraceptives....do the math Patches. What do you think costs more in the long run? A simple medical procedure, a box of prophylactics, and a prescription of birth control pills......or social programs and assistance for a fucked up unwanted kid that was raised by a crack-whore?
I've personally sponsored 6 voluntary sterilizations, thank you very much....and will continue to provide the funds for 2 a year. So it makes sense to "stay on the ship" and help bail instead of being part of the selfish problem.
Johnny Rockets
Remember: http://www.projectprevention.org
Fight Child Poverty and Neglect at the source.
I can only assume that Mr. Rockets has proof that all abortions are of potentially "fucked up unwanted kid[s] that [were] raised by crack-whore[s]."
_sabotage_ wrote:JR,
I am looking at land for organic farming here on the East Coast.
Any advice on avoiding the 15% HST? Should I incorporate before I begin investing?
Johnny Rockets wrote:Well I figured you'd figure out that a woman who chose to have an abortion didn't in whole WANT the infant. Should that not be a prerequisite for taking on the massive responsibility for bringing a new life into this world?
GeneralRisk wrote:WHAT A BUNCH OF SICK FUCKS. GL IN HELL.
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