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waauw wrote:Let's not exagerate here. Whoever gets elected will still need the support of congress. Trump is powerless if he doesn't get the rest of the republican party behind him.
waauw wrote:Let's not exagerate here. Whoever gets elected will still need the support of congress. Trump is powerless if he doesn't get the rest of the republican party behind him.
warmonger1981 wrote:America may not be a bank. But we have the Federal Reserve and every country on the earth needs it as of now. You do know if that bank fails the whole world fails. Is it Americas fault that other countries bought the lies of the US? Every country gets what they deserve for buying faith in a faithless system. Mutual destruction was the idea and nobody wanted it. To bad we have crazy steering the ship for the last 100 years. Kick the can down the road long enough to reach the next generation and let them figure it out.
Falkomagno wrote:It seems like the Americans are going to screw it up, not only for themselves, but for the rest of the world.
As the president of US can execute actions that affects the whole world, why is not the whole world also involved in the election?
IF that little-fingered bastard gets in power, confirming the declining of the American hegemony, the effects of the transition from the US dominance to a Chinese one will be quite chaotic, and who knows actually what will happen in the next 4 years.
If the American are not educated enough to vote, the rest of the world should intervene and bring them to reason.
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
warmonger1981 wrote:Nope well aware of countries like India,Pakistan and China creating it's own economic corridor. Or how Muammar Gaddafi tried creating a gold dinar. The world is waking up to American hippocracy. Brittain is waking up to its own EU scam. Tell me this then. How would the world function if the American Dollar collapsed today. Ever heard of Bretton Woods. It set up the IMF, World Bank and International Bank for Reconstruction and Development . At least two of those rely heavily on the American Dollar for investment. If the dollar fails today the world feels it tomorrow.
Dukasaur wrote:The U.S. is not unique in electing scumbags. I see all kinds of garbage winning elections all over the world.
I'm not even American and I'm offended by the insulting implication of the OP that the rest of the world is somehow smarter. People around the world are susceptible to the same problems of groupthink, kneejerk reactions to stimuli, and susceptibility to marketing ploys and buzzwords. If the rest of the world was invited to vote in U.S. elections, the results might be different, but they'd be unlikely to be any better.
Falkomagno wrote:Dukasaur wrote:The U.S. is not unique in electing scumbags. I see all kinds of garbage winning elections all over the world.
I'm not even American and I'm offended by the insulting implication of the OP that the rest of the world is somehow smarter. People around the world are susceptible to the same problems of groupthink, kneejerk reactions to stimuli, and susceptibility to marketing ploys and buzzwords. If the rest of the world was invited to vote in U.S. elections, the results might be different, but they'd be unlikely to be any better.
The point is that in general terms, if Italy elect a Berlusconi, it has a way smaller effect that if US elect, well, its Berlusconi version.
Your point is that the rest of the world is not inherently smarter to know better, which is a very interesting point, then the problem is that democracy is flawed if uneducated people are able to vote. But that is a much broader discussion.
In this particular case, the prevalence of trump is being seeing as a scary thing for the rest of the world.
Falkomagno wrote:Your point is that the rest of the world is not inherently smarter to know better, which is a very interesting point, then the problem is that democracy is flawed if uneducated people are able to vote. But that is a much broader discussion.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Democracy is flawed, its just better than the current alternatives.
Dukasaur wrote:Falkomagno wrote:Dukasaur wrote:The U.S. is not unique in electing scumbags. I see all kinds of garbage winning elections all over the world.
I'm not even American and I'm offended by the insulting implication of the OP that the rest of the world is somehow smarter. People around the world are susceptible to the same problems of groupthink, kneejerk reactions to stimuli, and susceptibility to marketing ploys and buzzwords. If the rest of the world was invited to vote in U.S. elections, the results might be different, but they'd be unlikely to be any better.
The point is that in general terms, if Italy elect a Berlusconi, it has a way smaller effect that if US elect, well, its Berlusconi version.
Your point is that the rest of the world is not inherently smarter to know better, which is a very interesting point, then the problem is that democracy is flawed if uneducated people are able to vote. But that is a much broader discussion.
In this particular case, the prevalence of trump is being seeing as a scary thing for the rest of the world.
Trump doesn't scare me nearly as much as the Bushes did, and we survived 16 years of them. We'll survive Trump, too.
Bernie Sanders wrote:Americans will come to their senses in November. Every time Trump opens his big mouth and waves his small hands, Americans will cone to the realization that Trump is a phony and is as crazy as bat shit.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Democracy is flawed, its just better than the current alternatives.
mrswdk wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Democracy is flawed, its just better than the current alternatives.
When in doubt, quote Churchill then drop the mic.
Bernie Sanders wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Falkomagno wrote:Dukasaur wrote:The U.S. is not unique in electing scumbags. I see all kinds of garbage winning elections all over the world.
I'm not even American and I'm offended by the insulting implication of the OP that the rest of the world is somehow smarter. People around the world are susceptible to the same problems of groupthink, kneejerk reactions to stimuli, and susceptibility to marketing ploys and buzzwords. If the rest of the world was invited to vote in U.S. elections, the results might be different, but they'd be unlikely to be any better.
The point is that in general terms, if Italy elect a Berlusconi, it has a way smaller effect that if US elect, well, its Berlusconi version.
Your point is that the rest of the world is not inherently smarter to know better, which is a very interesting point, then the problem is that democracy is flawed if uneducated people are able to vote. But that is a much broader discussion.
In this particular case, the prevalence of trump is being seeing as a scary thing for the rest of the world.
Trump doesn't scare me nearly as much as the Bushes did, and we survived 16 years of them. We'll survive Trump, too.
12 years idiot. Bush Sr. was not a bad President. The Conservatives wanted him out! Bush Jr. was a failure.
The DOLLAR is king and the Chinese are still hiding their money in US Treasury Bonds and in the US econony.
Americans will come to their senses in November. Every time Trump opens his big mouth and waves his small hands, Americans will cone to the realization that Trump is a phony and is as crazy as bat shit.
mrswdk wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Democracy is flawed, its just better than the current alternatives.
When in doubt, quote Churchill then drop the mic.
Falkomagno wrote:It seems like the Americans are going to screw it up, not only for themselves, but for the rest of the world.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:mrswdk wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Democracy is flawed, its just better than the current alternatives.
When in doubt, quote Churchill then drop the mic.
We have democratic systems across that actively prevent from a large proportion of society from bekng the representative.
The issue in America isnt that americans are stupid voters, its that there is a political system which promoted Trump and Clinton to being the only possible representatives.
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