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PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:This comes in responce to a "locked" thread in the Flame Wars Forum.
TWILL wrote :" make that 2 liberals
time to close this thread me thinks...was hoping people would be grown up enough to let it die, guess I was wrong."
The question is WHY was the thread closed?
1. There is no room at CC for political debate?
2. There is no room at CC for non-liberal debate.
and why lock the thread instead of just delete it?
If the thread had been locked say.... when the racist stuff was being tossed around..that would be understandable. But it wasn't until it got political (with moderator interjecting his bias view) that it was locked.
Which bring up the question.... Should moderators/founders remain neutral in forums? Because if thats the way it is here at this site I can continue on at other sites where freedom of speech is not restrained.
You can even keep the $20.
eye84free wrote:here here.....good point.....there not going to just delete something without good justifcation and i belive he had reasoning behind it..
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
thegrimsleeper wrote:The thread was all about racism until the very end when someone said the L-word. And then Twill happened to repeat the L-word just prior to deleting the thread. It was not a political thread, it was an abusive thread (and not the fun kind, either).
But jay, you ignored the context and used only the snippet that serves your own agenda of creating assinine debate threads.
You have learned a lot from Bill O'Reilly.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
thegrimsleeper wrote:Ok, check the post-dates. The thread pretty much died on May 20th, but then it was revived by SnoopDogg, who is most likely a member of the Allience (sic). And rather than just ignoring it, like a rational person, you and a handful of others took the bait and kept it going for a little while longer.( I kept NOTHING going! As I recall, I left the thread and then someoneelse (liberal friend) had to take a jab at decent thinking people***note...this is sarcasm do NOT SEND HATE MAIL!) lol Then you added a hook of your own with your little list, successfully hijacking the thread and turning it into another one of your pseudo-intellectual (emphasis on pseudo) political debates.
How many of your other threads have been shut down for your liberal-bashing? ( NONE-THAT I AM AWARE OF) How many times were you banned for an anti-democrat avatar?(NONE AGAIN) Free speech is alive and well on Conquer Club, and guess what: That's exactly why he didn't delete the thread.
Rather than stifle someone else's free speech, he merely locked it, effectively preventing it from ever being ressurected again, while keeping his conscience clear of censorship.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
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Phate wrote:I don't think you're one to talk about 'creations of your own mind'
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
thegrimsleeper wrote:Free speech is alive and well on Conquer Club, and guess what: That's exactly why he didn't delete the thread.
Rather than stifle someone else's free speech, he merely locked it, effectively preventing it from ever being ressurected again, while keeping his conscience clear of censorship.
thegrimsleeper wrote:I can only assume you realize that that was the point I was trying to make, as you really gave no indication of this anywhere in your response.
With so many threads already featuring gratuitous liberal-bashing, why on earth would he lock that particular thread...... Hmmmmm......
Oh, I know, because of all the RACISM!!!
As for you not keeping anything going... Well... you didn't make a post in that thread until after it was ressurected. So when Twill "was hoping people would be grown up enough to let it die," he was talking in part about people like you who just don't know that you're not supposed to feed the trolls.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
thegrimsleeper wrote:I can only assume you realize that that was the point I was trying to make, as you really gave no indication of this anywhere in your response.
With so many threads already featuring gratuitous liberal-bashing, why on earth would he lock that particular thread...... Hmmmmm......
Oh, I know, because of all the RACISM!!!
As for you not keeping anything going... Well... you didn't make a post in that thread until after it was ressurected. So when Twill "was hoping people would be grown up enough to let it die," he was talking in part about people like you who just don't know that you're not supposed to feed the trolls.
Phate wrote:Why would someone 'waste space' making a thread questioning a mod's decision to close another. Trying to do something like this in another forum could easily get you suspended.
Really, no-one wants to hear your complaints about 'liberals' or whatever the f*ck you're talking about, and the thread is NOT going to be unlocked because you whine about it.
Creations of your own mind was in reference to 'dipholicterrata' (?)
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
Augusta wrote:But - frankly I don't think if a post is 1 day old or 30 days old makes it any less discriminating.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
was intended to revive a flame which was, let us say, not conquerclub's best moment.ha bicth ur whole flippin familiy and generation had cock in ther mouths u whore
Twill wrote:Jay, let me clarify, that thread was locked not because of the political debate contained within, nor because of my or any other person's left/right/neutral bent with regards to politics but rather because the commentwas intended to revive a flame which was, let us say, not conquerclub's best moment.ha bicth ur whole flippin familiy and generation had cock in ther mouths u whore
I chose to leave that thread open rather than lock it because I believed it could die on its own, to let the community decide which direction it wanted to take - would the flames continue if "the alliance" was gone or would the community decide that it wanted to let sleeping dogs lay as it were. It was a key moment in deciding how strict a mod team would have to be in the future and I have to say, the speed with which the thread died, set the very hands off approach we have in stone. This community is run by the community, and that is how Lack, myself and I am sure most of the community would like to see it.
The thread was closed specifically and only because it was revived with the clear goal of stirring shit up, not because of any political views expressed there-in.
Now, as to the view that moderators and/or founders should be neutral, I, as a member of this community first and moderator second, have as much right as you to hold and express my views. As long, and only as long as, as those views stay completely separate from how the forum is moderated and my views do not impact the application of mod powers. Now, I admit, I did not clarify which comments in that post were with regards to my additions to the discussion and which were with regards to the closing of that thread, but I assure you, my/your political views had nothing to do with the thread's closing.
That being said, Jay, I would appreciate it in the future if you would not intentionally try to upset or provoke individuals based on your political views - which you are, of course, entitled to have.
Thank you for your concern, I would be happy to continue this, and any other concerns people may have with the moderation style of this forum in private should you wish
Twill
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