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Which right is most important for the government to protect?

The right to economic and physical security
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Total freedom of speech and behaviour
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Postby mrswdk on Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:06 am

You are allowed to pick one human right for your country to enshrine the protection of in its legislature. Gogogo.
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Re: Rights

Postby tkr4lf on Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:47 am

I mean, I guess if I have to pick one, then its "The right to economic and physical security."

But ideally, both would be protected.
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Re: Rights

Postby KoolBak on Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:49 am

Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....
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Re: Rights

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:06 am

The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.
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Re: Rights

Postby mrswdk on Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:00 am

KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....


No, the first one is a government that provides everyone with economic and physical security.
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Re: Rights

Postby Thorthoth on Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.


So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.
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Re: Rights

Postby waauw on Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:58 pm

Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.


Only in developed nations. The two options seem more like two pieces of a step-by-step plan to prosperity.
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Re: Rights

Postby waauw on Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:00 pm

KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....


Depends on how you interpret it. Basic economic security can also be accomplished through a strong healthy jobs market.
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Re: Rights

Postby riskllama on Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:08 pm

Thorthoth wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.


So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.[/quote

careful there, skip - it's them very same oligarchs that are standing between you and the permaban hammer right now... ;)
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Re: Rights

Postby notyou2 on Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:48 pm

The options are:

A. China

B. Not China
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Re: Rights

Postby Thorthoth on Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:12 pm

riskllama wrote:
Thorthoth wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.

careful there, skip - it's them very same oligarchs that are standing between you and the permaban hammer right now... ;)

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Re: Rights

Postby armati on Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:18 pm

YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
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Postby Thorthoth on Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 pm

armati wrote:YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E

Almost, the one truly inalienable right is the Right to Be Dissatisfied. Everything else is either a privilege or a crime, depending on P.O.V.
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Re: Rights

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:31 am

I'd be happy with the right to implement suggestions
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Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:11 am

armati wrote:YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E


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Re: Rights

Postby gendotte on Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:35 pm

That is a Hobson's Choice. They are both vital.
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Re: Rights

Postby theblackjesus on Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:39 am

Why not both?
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Re: Rights

Postby mrswdk on Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:05 am

theblackjesus wrote:Why not both?


Finally, the black Jesus has arrived on CC!
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Re: Rights

Postby riskllama on Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:48 am

I suspect he's been here before, mrs... :-k
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Postby mrswdk on Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:58 am

You think it's the spirit of someone who died for our sins?
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Postby Neoteny on Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:33 pm

I am legit shocked that username was available.
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Re: Rights

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:22 pm

Neoteny wrote:I am legit shocked that username was available.

You'd think owen would have jumped on that name just so no one can have it.

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Postby gendotte on Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:47 pm

You can't have one without the other.
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Re: Rights

Postby warmonger1981 on Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:35 pm

waauw wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....


Depends on how you interpret it. Basic economic security can also be accomplished through a MILITARY.





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