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riskllama wrote:yeah, US had better go to war w/someone & fast - that's a surefire way for Trump to hold on to the presidency. China might be a bit of a stretch, tho - maybe start off small, mongo - say, Iran or Venezuela maybe???
riskllama wrote:yeah, US had better go to war w/someone & fast - that's a surefire way for Trump to hold on to the presidency. China might be a bit of a stretch, tho - maybe start off small, mongo - say, Iran or Venezuela maybe???
warmonger1981 wrote:riskllama wrote:yeah, US had better go to war w/someone & fast - that's a surefire way for Trump to hold on to the presidency. China might be a bit of a stretch, tho - maybe start off small, mongo - say, Iran or Venezuela maybe???
I'm just thinking this economic Warfare can heat up. Iran would be because of Israel. But Iran would have been my second pick. Venezuela is too small. We've never had no interest in South American wars. We can do that through some type of contra. Venezuela would be more of an economic deal then shooting bullets.
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mookiemcgee wrote:I agree with most of your position here Patches, particularly the political predictions in regards to elections and Trumps future influence. I would disagree on the influence this SCOTUS show will have on the outcome, I tend to believe (despite the polls) that the reps were never in nearly the amount of danger being predicted in the house long before this show. I still think they might lose a small number of seats, but I've believed throughout the entirety of 2018 that it would be another 2 years of full rep control. I'm still only 80/20 on trump getting re-elected, only because I do expect this Russia/FBI business to drag on and on. And until that actual election cycle begins, there are still too many unknowns for me to say it's a lock. In spite of all the good spin about the trade war right now, over the next 2 years some Americans that voted for him are going to be hurt by this tarrif war, and i think there is still a significant chance a change in economic outlook could turn alot of people off. Also until it becomes clear who the dems run and on what sort of patform I'm sticking to 80/20
saxitoxin wrote:Agree with patches on DiFi. This is the woman who had a Chinese intelligence operative on her staff for 20 years while she had the highest levels of security clearance... and then has the audacity to crow about a Russia conspiracy theory. The only thing keeping her out of prison is the fact she's 90 and could plead senility in a trial making it difficult to convict.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/ ... francisco/
patches70 wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Agree with patches on DiFi. This is the woman who had a Chinese intelligence operative on her staff for 20 years while she had the highest levels of security clearance... and then has the audacity to crow about a Russia conspiracy theory. The only thing keeping her out of prison is the fact she's 90 and could plead senility in a trial making it difficult to convict.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/ ... francisco/
Oh man, the body language expert who evaluated Feinstein at her and Schumer's FBI investigation statement, identified a massive amount of stress in her body language that had nothing to do with what she and Schumer were talking about. She is under a massive amount of pressure. I'd almost feel bad for except she brought it all on herself.
Whatever it is, the source of the stress, it bodes ill for her future in politics...
patches70 wrote:mookiemcgee wrote:I agree with most of your position here Patches, particularly the political predictions in regards to elections and Trumps future influence. I would disagree on the influence this SCOTUS show will have on the outcome, I tend to believe (despite the polls) that the reps were never in nearly the amount of danger being predicted in the house long before this show. I still think they might lose a small number of seats, but I've believed throughout the entirety of 2018 that it would be another 2 years of full rep control. I'm still only 80/20 on trump getting re-elected, only because I do expect this Russia/FBI business to drag on and on. And until that actual election cycle begins, there are still too many unknowns for me to say it's a lock. In spite of all the good spin about the trade war right now, over the next 2 years some Americans that voted for him are going to be hurt by this tarrif war, and i think there is still a significant chance a change in economic outlook could turn alot of people off. Also until it becomes clear who the dems run and on what sort of patform I'm sticking to 80/20
I think you are probably right about the reps never being in that bad of a position before this SCOTUS debacle. The supposed Blue Wave that was going to sweep the House was always based on polls where the question was about generalities taken a year ago. Those polls are worthless.
I do, however, think that the average voter who paid any attention to the SCOTUS hearings, are disgusted by allegations on anyone where evidence is virtually non existent. In General Americans believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
If Trump drags the US into another war then he won't get reelected, period. You probably don't believe me when I say that was the most important thing he talked about during his campaign, more important than the immigration issues. Americans are not a blood thirsty people. We don't want to fight wars, we don't want to fight other people's wars. We don't want to shed or blood to replace one tyrant with a new set of tyrants. Americans in general don't want to get involved in other nation's internal struggles. We don't want to be the policemen of the world. Americans don't like bullies and we won't stand for our country being a bully if we can stop it. Americans in general want to find ways to cooperate with others, including Russia and even China. We don't want to antagonize others.
The economic outlook isn't that important. It all depends on how the Administration handles optics. For instance, FDR kept getting reelected term after term even though the country was suffering through a depression that we of today can't imagine. FDR couldn't stop the depression, he couldn't fix it, but he was trying, or at least the public perceived him as trying, and thus he wasn't punished for it politically.
Obama got reelected even though he didn't do much to really help the economy. Part of that was that American's understood it wasn't his fault the crash. Another part was there was no real viable alternative to Obama (like Romney ever had a chance, sheesh).
The American voter almost always makes the right choice. They made the right choice between McCain and Obama, it would have been a nightmare if McCain had been elected, that crazy asshole. We also made the right choice with Trump considering it was between him and Clinton. That's a no brainer. Americans aren't too fond of monarchies either, or anything that appears like a monarchy.
But you are right, there are a lot of unknowns, though at the moment the Democrats have no viable alternative to Trump. Could you imagine them trying to nominate Clinton again in 2020? You think she'd be able to beat Trump a second go around? Har, I don't see it. So the Dems better start working on elevating someone who at the moment is unknown. Someone who isn't going to cater to the extreme left, who are, let's face, a small minority of people in the US. The Dems should start getting away from the Alinsky tactics and start being a bit more honest IMO. I know, I know, hones and politics don't go together, maybe I should say "sincere"?
And the Trade War, Har! Don't even get me started on that, I'll be typing forever. suffice it to say, the talking heads say a lot of things trying to influence people's thinking. I remember, back before the Brexit vote where the talking heads said that if England voted for Brexit their entire economy would collapse overnight. Well, that didn't happen.....
Mother fuckers always got an angle, and the truth is rarely ever part of that angle.
God willing, we'll all live long enough to see how it all shakes out.
mookiemcgee wrote:[
I tend to believe that if trump enters a war it would have the opposite effect, and that it would virtually guarantee his re-election.
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HitRed wrote:Normally loosing The White House, Senate, House of Rep., The Supreem Court and most Govern-ships should cause change in the loosing party. With the unemployment rate at 3.7% Trump is squarely looking to return the African-American vote to the party of Lincoln. Its in the cards. Historic if it happens.
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