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Did your opinion of Trump go higher or lower after hearing Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:28 pm

I always knew he was a scumbag, and now I know he's also a tantrum-throwing brat. My opinion of him is less than before.
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55%
I always knew he was a scumbag, but at least he's not a coward. My opinion of him is higher than before.
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I like Trump. I think it's great for corrupt real estate scammers to see higher office. And now that I know he's a marksman with a ketchup bottle, I like him even more!
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36%
For whatever reason, I still like Trump, but now that it's clear he knew the January 6th riots would turn violent and wasn't bothered by it, I like him a little less.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:07 am

jimboston wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
jimboston wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Most (or nearly ALL) of C. Hutchinson's testimony is Hearsay; she HEARD others say things or others tell her that President Trump did so and so or say so and so. She was not there for much of what she said happened or was said. Or she quoted one of Trump's lawyers say something that MAY be important.

And much of what she said (Trump grabbed steering wheel while driven by the Secret Service) or that so and so said such and such has been contradicted and THUS makes her credibility a LOT Less. ALSO: I watched a synopsis on "legacy" media who described it as "bombshell" and told my wife it is ALL HEARSAY. I did not need legal or a journalist to tell me THAT.


You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet. My toenail trimmings that I just flushed have more brain matter.

Yes, much of her testimony is hearsay, and no one said her testimony proved anything.

That said, her testimony contradicts other testimony, and she has no reason to make this shit up and every reason to lie and protect her former employers. Her testimony opens the door to other questions and gives the Committee a stronger position to demand sworn testimony from others who have been resisting the Committee.

No one person’s words can open the door to the truth….but her testimony was significant because it helps shed more light on actual illegal activities that may have occurred at the highest levels of the prior administration.

Hearsay is lot legal in a court of law, but it is valid information that provides investigators with leads… the Committee is NOT a court of law, it’s an investigation. Her testimony is basically a televised investigation… like watching Law & Order, and we’re still in the part where the detectives are talking to people on the street. The only difference is this info in being provided under oath.

Go get a fuckin brain.


Wow, Jimmy-B: calm down a bit; take a deep breath, breathe it out slowly, and then go for a long quiet walk, BEFORE you return to CC. There is no need for a heart attack, NOT now, anyway.

and you TOTALLY contradict yourself. You agree with me (I must have SOME Brains, RIGHT?) but ONLY AFTER you go on a MAJOR ad hominem attack on me.

Smart jimmy-Boi, you're really SMART....NOT. Typical TROLL, full of emotion, hot air, and fury and not much else.

I got a brain; where's yours? on your tongue? and "fucking" must be about the only negative adjective you know. What a moron.

You said:
You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet. My toenail trimmings that I just flushed have more brain matter.

Yes, much of her testimony is hearsay, and no one said her testimony proved anything.


Fuckin’ idiot.

I don’t agree with part of what you said, but not your main point…

I agree with the idea that yeah… in a Court some of her testimony would not be accepted, because it’s heresay.

Your main point was to discount 100% of her testimony…. which is idiotic in the context of the hearings.

Also, no need to calm down. I’m not upset at all… I’m only using strong language because you’re so fuckin’ dumb I don;t think you can follow unless I add the emphasis.


Who shows himself to be an ASS and to be a
Fuckin’ idiot.

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I am intelligent enough to see what an ASS you are. You are upset enough to offer 4 responses to 4 different persons in about 30 minutes and the first three in about only 8 minutes. I guess you were NOT too upset jimmie-boi:

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=238154&start=25

I am not responding because of the vulgarity; I find such disrespect quite disgusting. I respond to some posts in this Forum in order to
1) point out lies, especially by Trolls, that are worthy of my time and effort;
2) to engage in thoughtful discussions;
3) to learn more about topics that are in the general public discourse. I find this point the most worthy.
4) I will occasionally read posts by the resident trolls to get my brain thinking.
5) I also sometimes respond to refute personal attacks, as jimmie-boi has attacked me in the past few days. jimmie-boi continues to show that he is AN ASS.

The entire point of the January 6 Committee is simply POLITICAL. The Committee is attempting to discredit Trump, embarrass Republicans, and give Democrats an issue for the elections of 2022 and especially 2024. Unlike vulgar jimmie-boi, many realize that this Committee is not looking for The TRUTH. Their acceptance of largely HEARSAY evidence by Hutchinson is proof of their false and political intent. As far as I am concerned at this point, we will see if the testimony of Hutchinson carries any weight beyond her 10 minutes of fame.

As with many issues in politics these days, there is a clear divide, a polarization:

MSNBC says:
Sorry, Trump: Hutchinson's January 6 testimony isn't 'hearsay'

when much of the "bombshell" testimony is merely that.

Fox News says:
Greg Gutfeld: Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has been ruined and so has the

I am not sure it is "ruined" and we have to wait for more evidence and more testimony.

I know I will wait for that. Unlike jimmie-boi, I do not give a "canned" response and will await more evidence. If needed, I will look for relatively unbiased sources to better understand a topic. I do NOT post or repeat crap I see, hear, or read. The above two are good examples of the CRAP out there and is passed off as intelligent and fair news, when most of it opinion and is crap.

And yes, I understand the difference between a court of law and the "court" of public opinion.

Most Americans really do not care much about politics. Most Americans do not read TONS of online stuff looking for affirmation of their beliefs or for material to be used for Troll-like posts. Most Americans are too concerned about working, inflation, and taking care of their families. Many Americans are not pleased with the polarized nature of politics. They find politics even more repulsive due to this polarization.

After some thought and reflection, I may need to FOE the troll jimmie-boi again. I question the need to respond to such idiotic and vulgar personal attacks. In the meantime, the Forum has gotten interesting as jimmie-boi has begun to show a modicum of thought beyond an ad hominem attack.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jimboston on Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:29 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
The entire point of the January 6 Committee is simply POLITICAL. The Committee is attempting to discredit Trump, embarrass Republicans, and give Democrats an issue for the elections of 2022 and especially 2024. Unlike vulgar jimmie-boi, many realize that this Committee is not looking for The TRUTH.


So the Republicans on the Committee who are jeopardizing their political future by NOT getting on board with Team Trump…. these people are also doing this for political reasons? Not because they truly believe that the events on and leading up to Jan. 6th were at the very least borderline treacherous… if not outright illegal?

So the testimony of all the Republicans who’ve appeared before the… all that testimony is political?

Get a fuckin’ clue.

On Jan. 6th 2021 I did NOT think there was an attempted coup… I thought Trump was an ass for all his postering and legal challenges… and I thought he should’ve conceded months earlier. I thought the violence at the Capital was spontaneous and there was no significant organization of message or action. I argued with my Liberal friends at the time saying that calling it a “coup” was extreme and inaccurate and said there was no evidence to support that.

Now, we KNOW that Jan. 6 was the result of all the messaging coming out of Trump Camp and extreme Right Wing groups. We know the messaging was organized as was some of the action. I don’t know if we can prove it was an “attempted coup” but I do believe that Trump is at least partially culpable for the events of Jan. 6th… and I know that this last election cycle has damaged our Democracy badly.

… and we continue to learn more.

We learn more because (in part) the efforts of this Commission. If learning the truth is political…


jusplay4fun wrote:
Their acceptance of largely HEARSAY evidence by Hutchinson is proof of their false and political intent.


Ugh. Please read my earlier post were I explain in detail the difference between a trial and an investigation.

If you still think “hearsay” testimony is not valid in this context, please read it again until you understand.


jusplay4fun wrote:After some thought and reflection, I may need to FOE the troll jimmie-boi again. I question the need to respond to such idiotic and vulgar personal attacks. In the meantime, the Forum has gotten interesting as jimmie-boi has begun to show a modicum of thought beyond an ad hominem attack.


So you Foed me.. then unFoed me… and now you may Foe me again?

Yet in the same paragraph you state that I’m making the forum more interesting… which would mean you shouldn’t FOE me?

You seem confused.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby bigtoughralf on Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:54 am

saxitoxin wrote:I was just browsing Hunter's laptop contents at hunterbidenemails.com and found this email in which he contacts a guy named Dmitri asking for a first class ticket out of Thailand where he'd been on Ko Pha Ngan, a notorious island whose only industry is prostitution involving questionably willing, very young staff.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 4646_11641

Dmitri's LinkedIn profile shows that he graduated from Ulyanovsk State University in Russia.

Funny that, of all the travel agents in the U.S., he chooses a Russian national to organize his outbound travel from his whirlwind trip sexing young Thai boys.

In a cryptic, later email, he tells Dmitri he wants to set-up a "formal relationship ... with my fathers" business. This was in September 2017. What business was Joe Biden running in September 2017 that he needed a Russian business partner / sleeper agent? According to public statements, he was living in retirement at the terminus of his vice-presidency.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 2610_11967


I just find it interesting how much people like him love email. Who tf under the age of 90 contacts acquaintances asking for a favour via AOL Mail? Next they'll be uncovering paper letters and travellers cheques used by Hunter Biden to book his child prostitutes.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:29 pm

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bigtoughralf wrote:These trials by politician are so lame. Having an independent judiciary* is supposedly fundamental to how the US is governed, until it doesn't prosecute someone that senators want it to at which point they just put that person on blast in an open kangaroo court. If this sort of spectacle went down in an African country Americans would be queueing up to lol at the tinpot backwards dictatorship.


*ignoring the fact the most senior judges in the country are all political appointments chosen for their partisan ideological leanings


Yup. In a normal congressional inquiry there would be a ranking representative from the opposition party entitled to cross examine each witness. But Pelosi, for the first time in history, refused to seat the Minority Leader's designees.

Ergo, Hutchinson can make all these insane and easily disprovable claims without anyone challenging her or requiring her to account for inconsistencies.

But it gives us cover to do the same thing to Hunter Biden in 5 months; force him to appear on national TV in front of a panel of 7 Republicans and make him describe - under penalty of prison - each piece of selfie porn recovered from his laptop in graphic detail right through 2024. We'll see how much suburban women like Biden after his son is forced to describe in detail his S&M habits and use of human trafficked hookers. And we'll throw some underage women in who will claim he fucked them too. Maybe even a Thai boy from Pfucket. And their claims will be unchallengeable because - like now - there will be no cross examination and they won't be available for post testimony interviews.


cause all their designees were Trump loyalists who are likely involved in what’s being investigated…


That's why we'll be refusing to seat Democrats on congressional committees after November. Because they're Biden loyalists and can't be trusted to investigate him in a way that will destroy him as a person.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:48 pm

As usual Saxi overlooks the fact that no one cares about hunter biden. Send him to jail, send anyone who broke laws all to jail as long as the leader of the violent coup against our great nation is held accountable. Hang Hunter and Trump on the same day from the same gallows just fucking DO IT ALREADY.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:21 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:As usual Saxi overlooks the fact that no one cares people in Brookline, Mass. don't care about hunter biden.


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After six months of 12-hours of daily interrogation on national TV by a committee composed exclusively of Republicans, we'll be able to get that number up from 66% to 82% I'm sure. And the juiciest graphic sex videos, bribery files, child abuse, and pay for play indicators haven't even been released.

Joe Biden's bank account was plumped up from bribes taken by Hunter who laundered it in there. It'll either be proved, or enough dirt and scandal will be heaped up onto the Biden family name that Joe will be choking under a 20-feet tall pile of shit we shovel onto him that paralyzes and eventually brings down the entire government.

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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:27 pm

Trump Beats Biden, DeSantis in 2024 Matchups Despite Jan. 6 Hearings: Poll

The new survey data showed just 39 percent of voters would back Biden in a hypothetical 2024 rematch against Trump. Meanwhile, the former Republican president had the support of 44 percent. An additional 12 percent said they'd back an alternative candidate and 5 percent remained undecided.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-b ... gs-1721141[/b]


Imagine POTUS' numbers after the entire investigative and subpoena power of the United States Congress is weaponized into a Trump campaign vehicle to release daily inferences and innuendo about Joe Biden and his family's hygiene, sexual health, and financial habits; and we haven't even got into the psychological health and cognitive impairment hearings. Joe will be lucky to even win Brookline at that point.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:03 pm

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mookiemcgee wrote:As usual Saxi overlooks the fact that no one cares people in Brookline, Mass. don't care about hunter biden.


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This story from 3 months ago... yet today no one except Saxi and Newsmax are still talking about this. Guess everyone is busy watching Liz Cheney peg Trump live on TV
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jimboston on Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:29 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:As usual Saxi overlooks the fact that no one cares people in Brookline, Mass. don't care about hunter biden.


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This story from 3 months ago... yet today no one except Saxi and Newsmax are still talking about this. Guess everyone is busy watching Liz Cheney peg Trump live on TV


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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:44 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:As usual Saxi overlooks the fact that no one cares people in Brookline, Mass. don't care about hunter biden.


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This story from 3 months ago... yet today no one except Saxi and Newsmax are still talking about this. Guess everyone is busy watching Liz Cheney peg Trump live on TV


Last I checked Biden has a 38% aggregate approval and dropping and Trump is polling higher than him for 2024. It can't be due to the economy since Biden keeps saying the economy is the strongest in history. Corruption allegations are sticky and grow deep roots in the mind that can't easily be removed. Look at jim - he still blankly believes the Russia hoax.

Buy I am LOLing at how quickly we went from "no one cares about it" to "no one has cared about it in the last 72 days." And the GOP won't even start shoveling the shit on this until December when they have subpoena power.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:12 am

jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I was just browsing Hunter's laptop contents at hunterbidenemails.com and found this email in which he contacts a guy named Dmitri asking for a first class ticket out of Thailand where he'd been on Ko Pha Ngan, a notorious island whose only industry is prostitution involving questionably willing, very young staff.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 4646_11641

Dmitri's LinkedIn profile shows that he graduated from Ulyanovsk State University in Russia.

Funny that, of all the travel agents in the U.S., he chooses a Russian national to organize his outbound travel from his whirlwind trip sexing young Thai boys.

In a cryptic, later email, he tells Dmitri he wants to set-up a "formal relationship ... with my fathers" business. This was in September 2017. What business was Joe Biden running in September 2017 that he needed a Russian business partner / sleeper agent? According to public statements, he was living in retirement at the terminus of his vice-presidency.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 2610_11967


Attempt #5 at derailing this thread and changing it from a conversation about Trump’s attempted coup to an attack on a lame old alzheimer’s patient and his family problems.


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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:00 pm

I was listening to Peter Navarro on Warroom today:

"What I remember about Hutchinson is that every time I went to see Mark she was sitting at one of the reception desks snacking on a big bag of candy. I always wondered what her job was. After Mark came in we joked he had brought his harem with him. There were 3 or 4 of these 23 and 24 year old girls who he gave these inflated senior titles to."

Anyway, Leader McCarthy penned an oped yesterday again pledging to turn every committee into an oversight committee in December and begin relentless investigations into money laundering, Chinese infiltration and child sex trafficking by the Biden crime family.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/01/well-prob ... kes-house/
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jimboston on Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:04 pm

saxitoxin wrote:I was listening to Peter Navarro on Warroom today:

"What I remember about Hutchinson is that every time I went to see Mark she was sitting at one of the reception desks snacking on a big bag of candy. I always wondered what her job was. After Mark came in we joked he had brought his harem with him. There were 3 or 4 of these 23 and 24 year old girls who he gave these inflated senior titles to."

Anyway, Leader McCarthy penned an oped yesterday again pledging to turn every committee into an oversight committee in December and begin relentless investigations into money laundering, Chinese infiltration and child sex trafficking by the Biden crime family.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/01/well-prob ... kes-house/


Attempt # 5 to dismiss Hutchinson’s testimony… Attempt #1 based on her being an attractive woman.

Attempt # 6 to derail thread and talk about Biden.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:25 pm

jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I was listening to Peter Navarro on Warroom today:

"What I remember about Hutchinson is that every time I went to see Mark she was sitting at one of the reception desks snacking on a big bag of candy. I always wondered what her job was. After Mark came in we joked he had brought his harem with him. There were 3 or 4 of these 23 and 24 year old girls who he gave these inflated senior titles to."

Anyway, Leader McCarthy penned an oped yesterday again pledging to turn every committee into an oversight committee in December and begin relentless investigations into money laundering, Chinese infiltration and child sex trafficking by the Biden crime family.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/01/well-prob ... kes-house/


Attempt # 5 to dismiss Hutchinson’s testimony… Attempt #1 base don her being an attractive woman.

Attempt # 6 to derail thread and talk about Biden.


I'm so sorry this is happening to you.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jimboston on Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:30 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I was listening to Peter Navarro on Warroom today:

"What I remember about Hutchinson is that every time I went to see Mark she was sitting at one of the reception desks snacking on a big bag of candy. I always wondered what her job was. After Mark came in we joked he had brought his harem with him. There were 3 or 4 of these 23 and 24 year old girls who he gave these inflated senior titles to."

Anyway, Leader McCarthy penned an oped yesterday again pledging to turn every committee into an oversight committee in December and begin relentless investigations into money laundering, Chinese infiltration and child sex trafficking by the Biden crime family.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/01/well-prob ... kes-house/


Attempt # 5 to dismiss Hutchinson’s testimony… Attempt #1 based on her being an attractive woman.

Attempt # 6 to derail thread and talk about Biden.


I'm so sorry this is happening to you.


No worries bruh…

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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:39 pm

Her 15 minutes of fame seems over.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jimboston on Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:26 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:Her 15 minutes of fame seems over.


The Committee has ready used her testimony to request/demand additional testimony from her boss and others.

The past week we had a holiday, you may have heard of it, it’s called The Fourth of July.
So everything’s been paused.

Things will pick up again soon enough.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:21 pm

jimboston wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Her 15 minutes of fame seems over.


The Committee has ready used her testimony to request/demand additional testimony from her boss and others.

The past week we had a holiday, you may have heard of it, it’s called The Fourth of July.
So everything’s been paused.

Things will pick up again soon enough.


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-------- As fake as this hearing is.....You think if it was really important...They would wave their vaction break...Get this One Sided Soviet Show trial over...
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-------3) If Trump said something joking or not...Or people said something about Pence....That would be between Trump and Pence...no one else....They have to work their own problems out.....Pence had to follow the Constitution...There wasn't anything he could do...But certify the Election.....The time a real Over throw would have been possible....
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:34 am

Three Secret Service special agents have now declared that the "he grabbed the steering wheel" story concocted by Hutchinson and the daughter of international war criminal Dick Cheney never happened.

Three career Secret Service agents versus one 23 year-old intern angling for a book deal. I wonder who jimbston will believe? (hint: the intern; it fits in with what the voices bouncing around the echo chamber in Brookline are saying)

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3548 ... oth-sides/

If she lied about this, what else did she lie about?
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jimboston on Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:11 pm

Let’s see if the Secret Service is actually willing to allow these agents to testify under oath.

Right now all we have is a statement from the Agency declaring the agents have said her testimony is wrong.

We don’t have their actual testimony under oath… we don’t have their testimony describing what (if anything) happened.

Is her testimony completely and materially wrong? Or is it materially accurate but she’s got a few details wrong?

Unless or until the SS allows their testimony under oath it’s meaningless.

Furthermore… this story is only one tiny part of her testimony, and not even the most revelatory.
Focusing on this one tiny part of her testimony (especially since we have no contradictions under oath) is a distraction.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:29 pm

jimboston wrote:Let’s see if the Secret Service is actually willing to allow these agents to testify under oath.

Right now all we have is a statement from the Agency declaring the agents have said her testimony is wrong.

We don’t have their actual testimony under oath… we don’t have their testimony describing what (if anything) happened.

Is her testimony completely and materially wrong? Or is it materially accurate but she’s got a few details wrong?

Unless or until the SS allows their testimony under oath it’s meaningless.

Furthermore… this story is only one tiny part of her testimony, and not even the most revelatory.
Focusing on this one tiny part of her testimony (especially since we have no contradictions under oath) is a distraction.


The agents can't just burst into the J6 Kangaroo Court and demand to testify. They must be invited. For most people it would be telling that the Kangaroo Court - told that three people will torpedo their star witness under oath - is choosing not to seek their testimony. But logic doesn't fly in Brookline. Orange Man Bad.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jimboston on Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:11 pm

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/2 ... e-00043164

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-cap ... 022-06-29/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... witnesses/

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3514 ... committee/

Further subpoenas are forthcoming…. you will surely find some way to ignore or deflect these and blow off any other testimony you don’t like.

They were not gonna subpoena these agents before her testimony. The way they are drooling out information is definitely part of a show, but it’s also about controlling the narrative and using leverage to either get people to be hkmestor catch them in their lies.

It’s only been about a week… patience… you also factor in the holiday.

… and no they’re not going to “skip the vacation”… not because it’s not important or because their vacation is too important. They know that the timing of how and when they present testimony is important and they want as many eyeballs as possible watching. It’d be stupid to try to release info this week when so many Americans are themselves away. I wouldn’t be surprised if we have to wait several more weeks for more info. I’m not following their calendar… but July and August are general slow times for news because the American people are distracted by beaches and barbecues.
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Re: Did Hutchinson's testimony change your opinion of Trump?

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:59 pm

jimboston wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Her 15 minutes of fame seems over.


The Committee has ready used her testimony to request/demand additional testimony from her boss and others.

The past week we had a holiday, you may have heard of it, it’s called The Fourth of July.
So everything’s been paused.

Things will pick up again soon enough.


What is this " Fourth of July" you speak of here? Tell me, O wise one.

and:

J-B said
They were not gonna subpoena these agents before her testimony. The way they are drooling out information is definitely part of a show, but it’s also about controlling the narrative and using leverage to either get people to be hkmestor catch them in their lies.


hkmestor
What is THIS? Another typo, Jimmie-boi? Try harder; this is not working too well, J-B-I. Try using a spell checker, OR at least pay attention to the words underlined with a Red Squiggly line. THAT means you misspelled a word, usually, J-B-I.

and a SHOW? Exactly, NOT an investigation. Control the narrative? I thought only saxi TRIES such things.

and J-B said:
but July and August are general slow times for news because the American people are distracted by beaches and barbecues


Sorry, J-B; the only ones watching the show are the few Trump haters like you. Most Trump supporters will not watch, unless they want to raise their blood pressure. Until we get a star witness who can finger Trump with criminal activity, it is NOT worth my time to watch. If the first SHOW was their best, they GOT nuttin', J-B-I.
Secret Service denial of Hutchinson story fuels attacks from both sides

The Secret Service is doubling down on its denial of an alleged altercation between former President Trump and his security detail on Jan. 6 of last year, providing a rare defense of Trump’s actions that day amid mounting evidence that he tried to orchestrate a coup from the White House.

The extraordinary anecdote of a clash in the presidential SUV — recounted last week in public testimony from former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson — has received outsized attention in the days since then.

The narrative has sparked a quick denial from the agents involved, prompted Trump loyalists to attack Hutchinson’s broader credibility and frustrated Trump critics who want to focus on the bigger picture, not least of all Trump’s desire to join hundreds of supporters in marching on the Capitol to contest his election defeat.

Through backchannels, the Secret Service has confirmed Trump’s eagerness to join the protesters at the Capitol, a number of whom would go on to storm the building in a violent effort to block Congress from certifying President Biden’s victory.

“There’s a lot of what Ms. Hutchinson said that is true. Certainly [Trump] wanted to go to the Capitol, that much we know. He said that publicly, he reiterated that inside the car,” a source close to the Secret Service told The Hill on Tuesday.

But the agency has also pushed back on Hutchinson’s account that Trump lunged for the SUV’s steering wheel, and then toward the neck of Secret Service agent Robert Engel, after being told he was going back to the Oval Office — and not to the Capitol — following his defiant speech on the Ellipse.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/secret-service-denial-of-hutchinson-story-fuels-attacks-from-both-sides/ar-AAZj9WU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=70591572b2b049f09b3dfab7ab62226b
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