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Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
jonesthecurl wrote:Actually the wheel wasn't invented by a caveman. It was invented around 3000 BC, apparently at about the same time horseriding appeared.
jonesthecurl wrote:Actually the wheel wasn't invented by a caveman. It was invented around 3000 BC, apparently at about the same time horseriding appeared.
mookiemcgee wrote:One religious leader and a bunch military leaders? It's probably the list CC deserves but it's a pretty uninspiring list of options.
Mohammad? Budda? Zarathustra? Alexander the great? Leonardo DaVinci? The unnamed caveman who invented the wheel? Kenneth Copeland (for Hitred)? Einstein? Mahatma Gandhi? John Wayne (for Confed)? CàiLún? Euclid? Putin (for Saxi)? Thomas Jefferson? Your wife's boyfriend (for Jim)? Mahavira? Gwen Shamblin (for bigtoughralf)?
Today,The Greatest Man to walk the Face of The Earth Died!!!
Postby ConfederateSS on Thu May 05, 2022 1:19 am
Maxleod wrote:If we're going to play that game...
Gandhi
Racist pedophile who's now widely known as a martyr and a hero of peace.
jimboston wrote:*Jesus is some ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking. Sure he talked about “Peace and Love” and all that Hippy Shit… but if you credit him for all the atrocities committed “In His Name” he would win the honor by far. Inquisitions, wars, genocides… His Name has delivered a\on all accounts!
jimboston wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:Actually the wheel wasn't invented by a caveman. It was invented around 3000 BC, apparently at about the same time horseriding appeared.
I don’t trust your “source”.
You are not JP4 and you provided no link and failed to copy&paste from Wiki.
But fat FAIL!
saxitoxin wrote:jimboston wrote:*Jesus is some ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking. Sure he talked about “Peace and Love” and all that Hippy Shit… but if you credit him for all the atrocities committed “In His Name” he would win the honor by far. Inquisitions, wars, genocides… His Name has delivered a\on all accounts!
In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
In 701 BC a Ravager, possibly the archangel Azrael, descended to Earth and single-handedly killed 188,000 Baal worshippers (2 Kings).
In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:
Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
not part of a set of works or subjects that are generally agreed to be good, important, and worth studying
jusplay4fun wrote:saxitoxin wrote:jimboston wrote:*Jesus is some ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking. Sure he talked about “Peace and Love” and all that Hippy Shit… but if you credit him for all the atrocities committed “In His Name” he would win the honor by far. Inquisitions, wars, genocides… His Name has delivered a\on all accounts!
In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
In 701 BC a Ravager, possibly the archangel Azrael, descended to Earth and single-handedly killed 188,000 Baal worshippers (2 Kings).
I wonder if jimb understands the meaning of non-Canonical:In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:
Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
Simply put, non-canonical means that it did not meet the criteria as a REAL Gospel. It was rejected, along with MANY MANY other books, many CALLED Gospels. It is not the word of Jesus or in the BIBLE. Thus it is worthy of being ignored. That is all the refutation needed.
jimb can IGNORE this quote, TOO:
definition of non-canonicalnot part of a set of works or subjects that are generally agreed to be good, important, and worth studying
Many early Christian sects were aware of and accepted The Gospel of Thomas as authentic Christian scripture, despite its unorthodox, radical doctrine, igniting an ideological battle in and around the Thomasine communities of the ancient world. This ideological war is still raging and conflict renewed and amplified with the discoveries of the Greek and Coptic texts of The Gospel of Thomas in the first half of the 20th Century. Since its discovery, The Gospel of Thomas has presented scholars with ferocious debate, as serious probability exists that Thomas preserves an older tradition of the historical Jesus than that of the Synoptic Gospels.
https://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/v ... ontext=lux
mookiemcgee wrote:turns out jesus faked his death and lived to 106 in Japan... (also non-cannon/non-fiction)
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 165354242/
2dimes wrote:Hey Saxi, do you think Matthew 10:34 might fit in here?mookiemcgee wrote:turns out jesus faked his death and lived to 106 in Japan... (also non-cannon/non-fiction)
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 165354242/
Seems fairly probable, a missionary showed up.
Tried to say, "I'm here in the name of Jesus."
Local guy recorded the event in a local language. "Met foreigner today named Jesus."
Kind of like when the guy who named this forum dropped by trying to call everyone, "Son of a bitch." but kept using dog instead.
Recently people have difficulty telling the difference between members here.
Of all these “suppressed” Gospels, far and away the poster child is the Gospel of Thomas. Liberal scholars such as John Dominic Crossan and Elaine Pagels faun over this work. The Jesus Seminar even published a book titled The Five Gospels, which includes the canonical four-plus Thomas.
Yet there’s a bit of irony here. If these scholars would treat the canonical Gospels with half the amount of charity they give to Thomas, they’d all be Christians! Instead, they date Thomas very early and the canonical Gospels late. They claim Thomas’ view of Jesus is reliable, while the canonical Gospels contain myths and legends.
By contrast, I’m going to demonstrate, in the remaining pace, that the Gospel of Thomas is unreliable, was never considered as Scripture by the early church, and thus shouldn’t be included in our canon.
Criticism
Main article: Criticism of Mother Teresa
According to a paper by Canadian academics Serge Larivée, Geneviève Chénard and Carole Sénéchal, Mother Teresa's clinics received millions of dollars in donations but lacked medical care, systematic diagnosis, necessary nutrition and sufficient analgesics for those in pain;[120] in the opinion of the three academics, "Mother Teresa believed the sick must suffer like Christ on the cross".[121] It was said that the additional money might have transformed the health of the city's poor by creating advanced palliative care facilities.[122][123]
One of Mother Teresa's most outspoken critics was English journalist and antitheist Christopher Hitchens, host of the documentary Hell's Angel (1994) and author of the essay The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice (1995) who wrote in a 2003 article: "This returns us to the medieval corruption of the church, which sold indulgences to the rich while preaching hellfire and continence to the poor. [Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction."[124] He accused her of hypocrisy for choosing advanced treatment for her heart condition.[125][126] Hitchens said that "her intention was not to help people", and that she lied to donors about how their contributions were used. "It was by talking to her that I discovered, and she assured me, that she wasn't working to alleviate poverty", he said, "She was working to expand the number of Catholics. She said, 'I'm not a social worker. I don't do it for this reason. I do it for Christ. I do it for the church'".[127] Although Hitchens thought he was the only witness called by the Holy See, Aroup Chatterjee (author of Mother Teresa: The Untold Story) was also called to present evidence opposing Mother Teresa's beatification and canonisation.[128]
In 1994, Mother Teresa argued that the sexual abuse allegations against Jesuit priest Donald McGuire were untrue. When he was convicted of sexually molesting multiple children in 2006, Mother Teresa's defense of him was criticised.[129][130]
Abortion-rights groups have also criticised Mother Teresa's stance against abortion and contraception.[131][132][133]
jusplay4fun wrote:For those with only short term memory, we went down this path about one year ago:
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237924&p=5252011&hilit=Greatest+Man+to+Walk#p5252011Today,The Greatest Man to walk the Face of The Earth Died!!!
Postby ConfederateSS on Thu May 05, 2022 1:19 am
On display there is the combined wisdom from jimb and ConfedSS.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
jusplay4fun wrote:saxitoxin wrote:jimboston wrote:*Jesus is some ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking. Sure he talked about “Peace and Love” and all that Hippy Shit… but if you credit him for all the atrocities committed “In His Name” he would win the honor by far. Inquisitions, wars, genocides… His Name has delivered a\on all accounts!
In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
In 701 BC a Ravager, possibly the archangel Azrael, descended to Earth and single-handedly killed 188,000 Baal worshippers (2 Kings).
I wonder if jimb understands the meaning of non-Canonical:In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:
Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
Simply put, non-canonical means that it did not meet the criteria as a REAL Gospel. It was rejected, along with MANY MANY other books, many CALLED Gospels. It is not the word of Jesus or in the BIBLE. Thus it is worthy of being ignored. That is all the refutation needed.
jimb can IGNORE this quote, TOO:
definition of non-canonicalnot part of a set of works or subjects that are generally agreed to be good, important, and worth studying
saxitoxin wrote:jimboston wrote:*Jesus is some ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking. Sure he talked about “Peace and Love” and all that Hippy Shit… but if you credit him for all the atrocities committed “In His Name” he would win the honor by far. Inquisitions, wars, genocides… His Name has delivered a\on all accounts!
In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
In 701 BC a Ravager, possibly the archangel Azrael, descended to Earth and single-handedly killed 188,000 Baal worshippers (2 Kings).
jimboston wrote:saxitoxin wrote:jimboston wrote:*Jesus is some ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking. Sure he talked about “Peace and Love” and all that Hippy Shit… but if you credit him for all the atrocities committed “In His Name” he would win the honor by far. Inquisitions, wars, genocides… His Name has delivered a\on all accounts!
In the non-canonical Gospel of Thomas, Jesus clarifies the mission:Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war."
Jesus was not here to bring harmony and love. Jesus was here to spread the message knowing it would be resisted. And this resistance would have to be overcome ... by hook or by crook. This was foretold in Psalms II; those who seek freedom from Heaven will be destroyed while the One who is enthroned watches, laughing.
In 701 BC a Ravager, possibly the archangel Azrael, descended to Earth and single-handedly killed 188,000 Baal worshippers (2 Kings).
You can’t really pin those 188,000 deaths on Jesus because it was 700 years before he was born.
Of course the whole idea of him being conceived and born makes no sense if he is “part” of the holy trinity…. I’d think the Trinity would’ve exists forever right? Also, being “God” you’d think time really would have no function or consequence… so maybe he should get those deaths added to his tally?
Religion is fun… it allows you to win any argument because logic means nothing when you have superpowers!
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