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CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:16 pm

---------------CATHOLIC SCHOOL(Annunciation) KIDS IN MINNEAPOLIS , MINNESOTA...Praying in church...Were attacked...shot......
---------------A Trans-loser...Mass shooter/ess...(Robert) / Robin Westman...Shot though a Stain Glass Window...Striking 19...8 year old and a 10 year old students killed...14 other students wounded, 3 Adults(teachers,maybe),also wounded...Expected to make it...
--------------Killer had 3 weapons....On IT'S rifle...Clip/magazine ...scrawled the words..."For the children",and "Where is your GOD?",and "Kill Donald TRUMP"...
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby HitRed on Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:38 pm

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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Aug 28, 2025 2:55 am

Some facts about this tragedy, another one that is all too common in the US, as we know them:

FBI investigates Minneapolis school shooting as anti-Catholic hate crime

A shooting at a school in Minneapolis that left two children dead and 17 others injured is being investigated as an anti-Catholic hate crime, the FBI says.

"The FBI is investigating this shooting as an act of domestic terrorism and hate crime targeting Catholics," FBI Director Kash Patel said in a post on X.

The two children, aged eight and 10, were killed when an attacker opened fire through the windows of the city's Annunciation Church on Wednesday morning as children were celebrating Mass.

The attacker, who died at the scene of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, was later named by police as 23-year-old Robin Westman.

Pope Leo XIV, the first American pope, was among those who paid tribute to the young victims, saying he was "profoundly saddened" by the attack.

Police Chief Brian O'Hara told reporters: "This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and other people worshipping."

"The sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible," he said.
(...)

Authorities have not yet released a suspected motive for the attack.

(...)
Westman's name was legally changed from Robert to Robin in 2020, Minnesota court records show. In the application the judge wrote: "Minor child identifies as a female and wants her name to reflect that identification."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7760x87r4po

More here:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-catholic-school-shooting-rcna227591

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara:
O’Hara said authorities were working to determine a motive and that police were aware of a "manifesto" that the suspect had timed to be released on YouTube.

“This manifesto appeared to show him at the scene and included some disturbing writings. That content has since been taken down with the assistance of the FBI, and it now remains under active review by our investigators,” O’Hara said.

Westman wrote numerous things on the weapons and magazines featured in the video, including racial slurs, a call for President Donald Trump's death, antisemitic messages and references to the Holocaust and the Catholic Church, according to an NBC review. (...)

In excerpts from the journal, written using the Russian Cyrillic alphabet for English words, the suspect described her fascination with violence and obsession with mass shootings, particularly those who attacked schools. The suspect also discussed suicide, depression, her own racism and the particulars of carrying out a mass shooting.

(...)
it appears that the suspect's mother previously worked for the Church of Annunciation.

The church had shared a Facebook post in August 2021 celebrating Westman's mother's retirement.
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby KoolBak on Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:58 am

Yet another forced religion / transgender mess.

So sad.

EDIT....here's an interesting tidbit:

There seems to be a PATTERN…

Uvalde Shooter - Trans
Denver Shooter - Trans
Georgia Shooter - Trans
Nashville Shooter - Trans
Colorado Shooter - Trans
Aberdeen Shooter - Trans
Minnesota Shooter - Trans
lowa Shooter - Gender Fluid
Philadelphia Shooter - Trans
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby Pack Rat on Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:55 am

KoolBak wrote:Yet another forced religion / transgender mess.

So sad.

EDIT....here's an interesting tidbit:

There seems to be a PATTERN…

Uvalde Shooter - Trans
Denver Shooter - Trans
Georgia Shooter - Trans
Nashville Shooter - Trans
Colorado Shooter - Trans
Aberdeen Shooter - Trans
Minnesota Shooter - Trans
lowa Shooter - Gender Fluid
Philadelphia Shooter - Trans



Simply not true. This narrative is being spread by the Trump administration.


https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-ch ... L1N363273/
A list of perpetrators in four shootings in the U.S. who identified as transgender or non-binary represent the minority of suspects in mass shootings, but users online are sharing the list without this context. Data collection on mass shootings varies by methodology, but experts told Reuters data shows the majority of mass shootings are carried out by cisgender men.
Cisgender refers to people who identify as the sex assigned to them at birth, while transgender is an umbrella term for those who do not, and non-binary is for those who do not identify exclusively as a man or woman, according to the Human Rights Campaign (here).


What's next? Guns don't kill children, transgenders do!
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby HitRed on Thu Aug 28, 2025 12:37 pm

"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

Genesis
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Aug 28, 2025 3:05 pm

Pack Rat wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Yet another forced religion / transgender mess.

So sad.

EDIT....here's an interesting tidbit:

There seems to be a PATTERN…

Uvalde Shooter - Trans
Denver Shooter - Trans
Georgia Shooter - Trans
Nashville Shooter - Trans
Colorado Shooter - Trans
Aberdeen Shooter - Trans
Minnesota Shooter - Trans
lowa Shooter - Gender Fluid
Philadelphia Shooter - Trans



Simply not true. This narrative is being spread by the Trump administration.


https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-ch ... L1N363273/
A list of perpetrators in four shootings in the U.S. who identified as transgender or non-binary represent the minority of suspects in mass shootings, but users online are sharing the list without this context. Data collection on mass shootings varies by methodology, but experts told Reuters data shows the majority of mass shootings are carried out by cisgender men.
Cisgender refers to people who identify as the sex assigned to them at birth, while transgender is an umbrella term for those who do not, and non-binary is for those who do not identify exclusively as a man or woman, according to the Human Rights Campaign (here).


What's next? Guns don't kill children, transgenders do!

---------NOPE, THE TRIFECTA OF DEATH DOES...BIG PHARMA--TEACHERS UNION--MEDICAL PROFESSION...MONEY.MONEY... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ...
----------------Since the 1980's A.D...BIG PHARMA sends money to The Teachers Union---PUMP KIDS WITH DRUGS---Warp their minds,you're a boy,a girl,a whatever...----Teachers---send the kids to get drugs -sex changes---ENTER THE MEDICAL PROFESSION...They too pump everyone with their death medicine...from birth to death....For THE TRIFECTA OF DEATH...F*CK PEOPLE...MONEY,MONEY,MONEY... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
--------------------THEY HAVE WARP THESE KIDS INTO WALKING HAND GRENADES......EITHER THEY KILL THEM SELVES OR OTHERS....A.I...IS GETTING INTO THE GAME.....A KID HAD PROBLEMS, I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF....A.I. GAVE THE KID IDEAS HOW TO END HIS LIFE...A.I. THE FUTURE :lol: :lol: :lol: ...
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby KoolBak on Thu Aug 28, 2025 3:57 pm

Packrant looks pretty good in hims summer dress....
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:54 pm

HitRed wrote:"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

Genesis


So God is female?
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby HitRed on Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:07 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
HitRed wrote:"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

Genesis


So God is female?
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:34 pm

HitRed wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
HitRed wrote:"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

Genesis


So God is female?


Why would god have a gender? Is your view of God so narrow that he exists in a human shaped form and has a (presumably) big old dick?
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:35 pm

Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?

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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby HitRed on Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:52 pm

Likely, God doesn't create evil, he allows evil, the freedom to choose. The 1st fall, The Angel's Revolt, the famous sentence, "And there was war in Heaven."

Genesis - Before the fall of man the world was untouched by evil. Temptation was then offered, but in the end the freedom to choose.
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:49 pm

HitRed wrote:Likely, God doesn't create evil, he allows evil, the freedom to choose. The 1st fall, The Angel's Revolt, the famous sentence, "And there was war in Heaven."

Genesis - Before the fall of man the world was untouched by evil. Temptation was then offered, but in the end the freedom to choose.



Buddhist monks are not allowed to kill. However, rabies is endemic in Southeast Asia, and sometimes Buddhist monasteries are beset by rabid dogs. I've read that they developed a sly workaround: The monks will prepare two meals, one with poison and one without, and leave them for the dogs. Then, when the dogs eat the poisoned food, the monks claim to be blameless, claiming that the dog exercised his free and independent will to choose the poisoned food.

Of course it's bullshit. A dog will eat as long as food is offered, even if he's full. Of course the dog will eat the poisoned food, even if he previously ate the non-poisoned food, and the monks damn well know he will. It's a mendacious argument.

The Genesis thing seems to be very similar. If there was a god, and if he made us in his image, of course he knows that we are both curious and acquisitive. If he had offered temptation, he knew damn well that we would reach out for it. The plucking of the fruit was a foregone conclusion, planned by his Almighty Assholeness in full foreknowledge of where it would lead.
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby KoolBak on Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:58 am

Great analysis of classic fiction DoD.
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:42 am

ConfederateSS wrote:
Pack Rat wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Yet another forced religion / transgender mess.

So sad.

EDIT....here's an interesting tidbit:

There seems to be a PATTERN…

Uvalde Shooter - Trans
Denver Shooter - Trans
Georgia Shooter - Trans
Nashville Shooter - Trans
Colorado Shooter - Trans
Aberdeen Shooter - Trans
Minnesota Shooter - Trans
lowa Shooter - Gender Fluid
Philadelphia Shooter - Trans



Simply not true. This narrative is being spread by the Trump administration.


https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-ch ... L1N363273/
A list of perpetrators in four shootings in the U.S. who identified as transgender or non-binary represent the minority of suspects in mass shootings, but users online are sharing the list without this context. Data collection on mass shootings varies by methodology, but experts told Reuters data shows the majority of mass shootings are carried out by cisgender men.
Cisgender refers to people who identify as the sex assigned to them at birth, while transgender is an umbrella term for those who do not, and non-binary is for those who do not identify exclusively as a man or woman, according to the Human Rights Campaign (here).


What's next? Guns don't kill children, transgenders do!

---------[size=]NOPE, THE TRIFECTA OF DEATH DOES...BIG PHARMA--TEACHERS UNION--MEDICAL PROFESSION...MONEY.MONEY... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ...
----------------[size=]Since the 1980's A.D...BIG PHARMA sends money to The Teachers Union---PUMP KIDS WITH DRUGS---Warp their minds,you're a boy,a girl,a whatever...----Teachers---send the kids to get drugs -sex changes---ENTER THE MEDICAL PROFESSION...They too pump everyone with their death medicine...from birth to death....For THE TRIFECTA OF DEATH...F*CK PEOPLE...MONEY,MONEY,MONEY... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
--------------------THEY HAVE WARP THESE KIDS INTO WALKING HAND GRENADES......EITHER THEY KILL THEM SELVES OR OTHERS....A.I...IS GETTING INTO THE GAME.....A KID HAD PROBLEMS, I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF....A.I. GAVE THE KID IDEAS HOW TO END HIS LIFE...A.I. THE FUTURE :lol: :lol: :lol: ...... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)


Before I go down this path, I will say that for a person in Minneapolis to harbor such vile hate for innocent young school children AND then shoot and kill some innocent children is the epitome of PURE EVIL.

Next, guns AND transgenders do kill children in schools.

Most school shooters are male and most are NOT transgender. I have only found credible evidence that there have only been TWO transgender school shooters.

I investigated the Uvalde, Texas school shooting and I never heard any reference to a trans shooter before this post. There apparently was a rumor circulated by right-wing extremists that the shooter was trans. My limited reading suggests that this is FALSE.
Texas shooting: How false rumours spread that gunman was trans

https://www.bbc.com/news/61607042

I was aware of the Nashville shooter being trans or gender-fluid. And most of us are aware that the Minneapolis shooter was transgender (to some degree, including a name change). I will not post here about either as this is rather well documented.

AI Overview
Confirmed school shootings by a trans person
As of August 2025, two school shootings have been carried out by perpetrators who identified as transgender.

Nashville, Tennessee (2023): The assailant who killed three children and three adults at the Covenant School was identified by police as a trans man.

Minneapolis, Minnesota (2025): The gunman who killed two children and injured 17 others at Annunciation Catholic School was a trans man.

Transgender individuals are disproportionately victims, not perpetrators

Despite political narratives that portray trans people as a threat, research consistently shows they are far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators.
Data from research groups illustrates this pattern:
The Violence Project
According to their database of mass shootings dating back to 1966, fewer than 1% were committed by transgender individuals.
The 2023 Nashville shooting was the first case involving a trans perpetrator in their database, which covers more than 200 incidents.
Gun Violence Archive (GVA)
The GVA estimates that over the last decade, transgender individuals accounted for about 0.11% of mass shooting suspects.
This is far below the percentage of the US adult population that identifies as transgender (about 0.5% in 2022).


The cited Reuters article does not support that allegation
This narrative is being spread by the Trump administration.

Another false statement.

As a teacher, first in public school (some 40 years) and now part-time at a private school, I try to stay aware of school shootings. I was only aware of two shootings involving a transgender person and my research this morning validates that situation. (I also try to determine some safety measures and prudent actions to take to be able to handle a horrible situation if one were to arise where I am. Our school now has supplies for teachers to offer immediate first aid and I practiced making sure that I can properly apply and use a touniquet. The identity of the shooter is NOT my primary concern as I keep aware of school shootings.)

And as typical of much of the current political rhetoric and discourse, there are two extremist views expressed here in this post. The TRUTH is not on either extreme.
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:55 am

mookiemcgee wrote:
HitRed wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
HitRed wrote:"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

Genesis


So God is female?


Why would god have a gender? Is your view of God so narrow that he exists in a human shaped form and has a (presumably) big old dick?

How big are we talking about here? Enough to mushroom stamp a crater into the Earth?
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:16 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
HitRed wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
HitRed wrote:"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

Genesis


So God is female?


Why would god have a gender? Is your view of God so narrow that he exists in a human shaped form and has a (presumably) big old dick?



Not my quote... but there's a female image in there - God's image.

Does God have a belly button?
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Re: CATHOLICS UNDER FIRE IN MINNESOTA!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:39 pm

Back on Topic:

Who is Robin Westman? What we know about suspect in Minneapolis school shooting that left two children dead
Both victims identified as 8-year-old Fletcher Merkel, and 10-year-old Harper Moyski
(...)
What was the motive?
The motive behind the tragedy remains under investigation as police continue to determine what led the shooter to attack. But, authorities have said that Westman targeted children.

Authorities said the shooter had been to the church within the past three months and likely intended to get inside during the attack, but ultimately could not because the church’s doors were locked. That is a standard safety practice by the church.

"What's particularly heinous and cowardly about this is these children were slaughtered by a gunman who could not see them," O’Hara said. “It is very clear that this shooter had the intention to terrorize those innocent children.”

Investigators continue to comb through the suspect’s writings and online videos to determine a motive. In them, Westman appears to describe hatred toward several groups and an obsession with other mass killers. The shooter also showed off the weapons for the attack with various phrases and references to other mass killings.

(...)
However, a former classmate of Westman’s said the assailant had idolized Adolf Hitler and obsessed over other mass killings even as far back as middle school.

Josefina Sanchez, who attended St. Agnes Catholic School with Westman for sixth and seventh, said there were “definitely red flags” with the shooter’s behavior.

(...)
What does social media show?
Police say that before Wednesday’s attack, Westman timed a series of YouTube videos to be posted to coincide with the attack.

The videos, which were pulled from the platform, show weapons etched with racial slurs and a death threat against Trump. They included “psycho killer” and “suck on this!” and “6 million wasn’t enough,” an apparent reference to the number of Jewish people killed in the Holocaust.

Westman also shared a reverence for six mass shooters, including ​​Adam Lanza, who killed 26 people at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut in 2012.

(Photos are included in this article of killer's magazine clips and the messages written there.)

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/robin-westman-minneapolis-shooting-church-annunciation-school-motive-b2816267.html

One conclusion I draw here is that locking the Church doors on the inside kept the killer OUT and prevented more deaths and a much bigger tragedy. Safety measures in place prevents many deaths, but NOT ALL. The facts that 17 were injured means (to me) that those injured could have been killed if this evil person got inside the church.
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