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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:00 pm

QFT on all of the above.

So the Wii sells better because it's cheaper. PEASANTS! :lol:

Problem is that can it go any cheaper? The PS3 has had a future price drop in the works for a while now.
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Postby NESconqueror on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:01 pm

Minister Masket wrote:QFT on all of the above.

So the Wii sells better because it's cheaper. PEASANTS! :lol:

Problem is that can it go any cheaper? The PS3 has had a future price drop in the works for a while now.

My saying goes like this.
Too little, too late. Sony is going to get da boot from Nintendo.
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:03 pm

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Minister Masket wrote:QFT on all of the above.

So the Wii sells better because it's cheaper. PEASANTS! :lol:

Problem is that can it go any cheaper? The PS3 has had a future price drop in the works for a while now.

My saying goes like this.
Too little, too late. Sony is going to get da boot from Nintendo.

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I did NOT create this thread for twassooks like yourself to turn it into a flame debate. I created it because the Clubhouse has been lacking in intelligent discussions as of late.
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Postby NESconqueror on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:06 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
NESconqueror wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:QFT on all of the above.

So the Wii sells better because it's cheaper. PEASANTS! :lol:

Problem is that can it go any cheaper? The PS3 has had a future price drop in the works for a while now.

My saying goes like this.
Too little, too late. Sony is going to get da boot from Nintendo.

*ahem*
I did NOT create this thread for twassooks like yourself to turn it into a flame debate. I created it because the Clubhouse has been lacking in intelligent discussions as of late.

Sorry about that... I did not mean it in a flaming way. I meant that Sony needs to execute their reduction big and fast (Not too big tho). Otherwise sony is not looking happy.
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Postby GreecePwns on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:09 pm

I think Sony is dead in the video game industry after this. It was that bad a failure for them. In addition to the non-selling of PS3's, it looks as if BluRay will not fare well against HD-DVD, leading to Sony's demise. Microsoft is really the only opponent left, and I think that these two will be at it for a long while.

Did they think everyone will buy the 600euro game that is more of the same with better graphics over the 225euro game that is innnovative and different than ever before? Not everyone has an extra 600 euros to spend (I do, but I still think it would be a waste of money). Wii is still selling out today, while the PS3 is staying on the shelves.
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:10 pm

Sony's year is next year.
A price drop combined with the releases of MGS4, Haze and Killzone 2 in 2008 will restore the faith.

Why did the PS3 have a bad launch?
Really, REALLY bad launch games (with 2 exceptions).

T'is all about the games people. Remember that.
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Postby autoload on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:10 pm

misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:12 pm

autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


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Postby GreecePwns on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:17 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


Excuse me! This is an intelligent discussion thread, not the public library! Worst. Fanboy. Ever!

I choose you Copyright Infringment!
Sue attack!
A Pokemon fan eh? I see you like Nintendo. Good! That makes 2 of us! :wink:
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Postby Avron on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:18 pm

Haha, No You Num wits. Sorry MM, The PS3 is not going to see a huge jump in sales for one major reason, Titles. Consoles don't sell consoles, Titles do. Thats why both the Wii and the PS3 are going to drop drastically in sales. And who ever said that 360 does where lacking originality, you obviously have never even played a few of them. The games on the 360 HAVE THE MOST. No I don't care if the Wii's control seems to make games original, thats the console not the game. Have you even seen XMA? The developers platform that lets you make games for the Arcade? Its an open developing platform for the unknown gamers. Have you seen Assassins creed or Mass Effect? The Wii is relying on old time franchise like Metriod, Zelda, and Mario to help boosts its sales and have considerably slowed down in creating new franchises. Now why they finally have opened up a bit to Third Party consumers most have just been ports. These trends show no sign of changing. Unless something Miraculous happens, the 360 has already won this generation, whether you think so or not, numbers prove it. Also can someone explain that one guys sales argument to me?
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:23 pm

Avron, when you say "titles", do you mean Halo 3 alone? Because Sony has alot more up it's sleeve than you think.

Anyway, don't downgrade the thread, PLEASE.
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Postby GreecePwns on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:25 pm

Avron wrote:Haha, No You Num wits. Sorry MM, The PS3 is not going to see a huge jump in sales for one major reason, Titles. Consoles don't sell consoles, Titles do. Thats why both the Wii and the PS3 are going to drop drastically in sales.


Since when did the Wii not have any titles coming out?

Super Smash Bros Brawl
Mario Kart Wii

I'll think of others in a second.

And who ever said that 360 does where lacking originality, you obviously have never even played a few of them. The games on the 360 HAVE THE MOST.
That's because they had a year ahead on the competition.

No I don't care if the Wii's control seems to make games original, thats the console not the game. Have you even seen XMA? The developers platform that lets you make games for the Arcade? Its an open developing platform for the unknown gamers. Have you seen Assassins creed or Mass Effect? The Wii is relying on old time franchise like Metriod, Zelda, and Mario to help boosts its sales and have considerably slowed down in creating new franchises.
XMA sounds like an amazing idea I'll give Microsoft that one as a genius idea. But how good can you make games on that? Are they even worth playing?

Who said sequels are exactly the same? Unlike Halo, Nintendo actually does change their game by a lot once in a while (the most recent being Mario Strikers Charged).

Now why they finally have opened up a bit to Third Party consumers most have just been ports. These trends show no sign of changing.
How do you know if they show no signs of changing? You don't know that and neither do I. Most Wii games actually have extra features than the other games. (Madden, FIFA, Guitar Hero, Resident Evil 4 (not so much but still)

Unless something Miraculous happens, the 360 has already won this generation, whether you think so or not, numbers prove it. Also can someone explain that one guys sales argument to me?
Numbers prove that even with the 1 1/2 year head start, the Wii has more units sold. In 8 months.
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:30 pm

GreecePwns wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


Excuse me! This is an intelligent discussion thread, not the public library! Worst. Fanboy. Ever!

I choose you Copyright Infringment!
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A Pokemon fan eh? I see you like Nintendo. Good! That makes 2 of us! :wink:

Oh I have great respect for Nintendo. I loved ther Pokemon games when I was knee-high to a lampost. (I was a tall child)
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Postby GreecePwns on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:32 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


Excuse me! This is an intelligent discussion thread, not the public library! Worst. Fanboy. Ever!

I choose you Copyright Infringment!
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A Pokemon fan eh? I see you like Nintendo. Good! That makes 2 of us! :wink:

Oh I have great respect for Nintendo. I loved ther Pokemon games when I was knee-high to a lampost. (I was a tall child)
I also have respect for Sony and Microsoft (plenty of classics on the PS2, which I still use today). I just think the PS3 was a little too overpriced for them to sell like the Wii did.
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:34 pm

Every time Sony sells a PS3 they make a loss. They had no choice.
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Postby GreecePwns on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:36 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Every time Sony sells a PS3 they make a loss. They had no choice.
Was it? I didn't know that.
Well, why did they assume everyone wanted to spend that much and make an expensive console like that?
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:42 pm

GreecePwns wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:Every time Sony sells a PS3 they make a loss. They had no choice.
Was it? I didn't know that.
Well, why did they assume everyone wanted to spend that much and make an expensive console like that?

The console itself isn't that expensive, the Blu-Ray player inside it most certainly IS. Costs about £1100 to make a PS3, and Sony sell them for £425. Most people miss this fact.

And this fact is even funnier when you hear about the new £899 iPhones!
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Postby Fircoal on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:45 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


Excuse me! This is an intelligent discussion thread, not the public library! Worst. Fanboy. Ever!

I choose you Copyright Infringment!
Sue attack!
A Pokemon fan eh? I see you like Nintendo. Good! That makes 2 of us! :wink:

Oh I have great respect for Nintendo. I loved ther Pokemon games when I was knee-high to a lampost. (I was a tall child)


hmm, it doesn't seem like you do, (or did.)

I myself, has we all know, loves Pokemon. ;)
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:47 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


Excuse me! This is an intelligent discussion thread, not the public library! Worst. Fanboy. Ever!

I choose you Copyright Infringment!
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A Pokemon fan eh? I see you like Nintendo. Good! That makes 2 of us! :wink:

Oh I have great respect for Nintendo. I loved their Pokemon games when I was knee-high to a lampost. (I was a tall child)


hmm, it doesn't seem like you do, (or did.)

I myself, has we all know, loves Pokemon. ;)

Since when did I say I disliked Pokemon?
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Postby Avron on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:50 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Avron, when you say "titles", do you mean Halo 3 alone? Because Sony has alot more up it's sleeve than you think.

Anyway, don't downgrade the thread, PLEASE.


I wont even reply to the other argument because its but together like shit.

No I Mean,(these are the exclusive games alone, console exclusive, I list some that are gonna be on the PC as well)

Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
Alan Wake
Banjo-Kazooie 3
The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
Cry On
Demons of Mercy
Fable 2
Gears of War 2
The Expanded Story for GTA4
Halo Wars
Left 4 Dead
Mass Effect
Ninja Gaiden II
Prey 2
Too Human


Just to name a few.
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Postby Fircoal on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:50 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


Excuse me! This is an intelligent discussion thread, not the public library! Worst. Fanboy. Ever!

I choose you Copyright Infringment!
Sue attack!
A Pokemon fan eh? I see you like Nintendo. Good! That makes 2 of us! :wink:

Oh I have great respect for Nintendo. I loved their Pokemon games when I was knee-high to a lampost. (I was a tall child)


hmm, it doesn't seem like you do, (or did.)

I myself, has we all know, loves Pokemon. ;)

Since when did I say I disliked Pokemon?
I've abused you of course, but you're Fircoal!


meh, it just came off that way.
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Postby NESconqueror on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:52 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Minister Masket wrote:
autoload wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Go Wii


Excuse me! This is an intelligent discussion thread, not the public library! Worst. Fanboy. Ever!

I choose you Copyright Infringment!
Sue attack!
A Pokemon fan eh? I see you like Nintendo. Good! That makes 2 of us! :wink:

Oh I have great respect for Nintendo. I loved their Pokemon games when I was knee-high to a lampost. (I was a tall child)


hmm, it doesn't seem like you do, (or did.)

I myself, has we all know, loves Pokemon. ;)

Since when did I say I disliked Pokemon?
I've abused you of course, but you're Fircoal!


meh, it just came off that way.

Abuse!?!? You mean to say that Fircoal and you are going at each other?
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Postby Minister Masket on Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:55 pm

Avron wrote:
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
Banjo-Kazooie 3
The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena

Games like these don't take themselves too seriously do they?
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Postby Avron on Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:06 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
Avron wrote:
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
Banjo-Kazooie 3
The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena

Games like these don't take themselves too seriously do they?



What?
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Postby pancakemix on Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:45 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Sony's year is next year.
A price drop combined with the releases of MGS4, Haze and Killzone 2 in 2008 will restore the faith.

Why did the PS3 have a bad launch?
Really, REALLY bad launch games (with 2 exceptions).

T'is all about the games people. Remember that.


Really? Because the only good release title for the Wii was TP.
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