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Favourite Fascist historical figure?

Postby Norse on Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:28 pm

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Postby The Weird One on Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:42 pm

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Postby EvilPurpleMonkey on Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:21 pm

Why couldn't it be "vote for your favourite dictator". I have tons. Anyways, the only ones I've ever liked were Tom MacInnes, Vladmir Lenin, and Giovanni Gentile.
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Postby unriggable on Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:33 pm

Lenin! Useful Idiot is such a useful phrase.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:33 am

EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:Why couldn't it be "vote for your favourite dictator". I have tons. Anyways, the only ones I've ever liked were Tom MacInnes, Vladmir Lenin, and Giovanni Gentile.
:shock: HOLY CRAP YOUR BACK!

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Postby -ShadySoul- on Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:46 am

Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:47 am

-ShadySoul- wrote:Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D
You do realize that he used terrorism on the people during his short reign?
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:11 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
-ShadySoul- wrote:Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D
You do realize that he used terrorism on the people during his short reign?

yeah, but people who werent for the change had to be controlled somehow...and this is the russians we are talking about, the only way we can agree with anything is through violence :D
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Postby -ShadySoul- on Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:14 am

wait...who voted for Joseph Stalin?
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Postby mybike_yourface on Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:54 am

EvilPurpleMonkey wrote:Why couldn't it be "vote for your favourite dictator". I have tons. Anyways, the only ones I've ever liked were Tom MacInnes, Vladmir Lenin, and Giovanni Gentile.


yeah this should be a dictator vote. communist dictators weren't fascists.
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Postby mybike_yourface on Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:12 am

-ShadySoul- wrote:Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D

what's the difference between lenin killing hundreds of thousand to force his ideas on the people or any later dictator? how has state socialism helped the poor of the world anymore than state capitilism or fascism?
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Postby got tonkaed on Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:19 am

mybike_yourface wrote:
-ShadySoul- wrote:Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D

what's the difference between lenin killing hundreds of thousand to force his ideas on the people or any later dictator? how has state socialism helped the poor of the world anymore than state capitilism or fascism?


thats a trick question....it isnt.
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Postby mybike_yourface on Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:22 am

got tonkaed wrote:
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-ShadySoul- wrote:Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D

what's the difference between lenin killing hundreds of thousand to force his ideas on the people or any later dictator? how has state socialism helped the poor of the world anymore than state capitilism or fascism?


thats a trick question....it isnt.
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Postby got tonkaed on Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:37 am

mybike_yourface wrote:
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-ShadySoul- wrote:Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D

what's the difference between lenin killing hundreds of thousand to force his ideas on the people or any later dictator? how has state socialism helped the poor of the world anymore than state capitilism or fascism?


thats a trick question....it isnt.
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yes. killing hundreds of thousands of your own or someone elses people is bad, it doesnt matter under what state flag it occurs.
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Postby xtratabasco on Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:50 am

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Postby mybike_yourface on Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:00 am

got tonkaed wrote:
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-- wrote:Lenin
because the guy wasnt a dictator and wasnt a stuck up rich bitch
He wanted to help the poor, and his ideas made perfect sense until the russians took it over the top. Lenin is my hero. Plus, i think he is the only world leader whos body is perfectly preserved :D

what's the difference between lenin killing hundreds of thousand to force his ideas on the people or any later dictator? how has state socialism helped the poor of the world anymore than state capitilism or fascism?


thats a trick question....it isnt.
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yes. killing hundreds of thousands of your own or someone elses people is bad, it doesnt matter under what state flag it occurs.


did you read ShadySouls earlier comments? he defends lenins killing as not being done in the role of dictator.
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Postby got tonkaed on Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:04 am

i know and im agreeing with you....people who kill thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of their own, arent doing a great job of getting their ideals accomplished.
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Postby mybike_yourface on Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:07 am

got tonkaed wrote:i know and im agreeing with you....people who kill thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of their own, arent doing a great job of getting their ideals accomplished.


oh, now i get you. well just look where state socialism has led to. same government shit.
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Postby firstholliday on Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:24 am

I love bush....

he made the dollar 'monopolymoney"
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Postby Simonov on Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:38 am

wov, Norse, you got something wrong. i know you guys were fed with anti-commie propaganda but Lenin wasn't a fascist.

long live comrade Lenin!
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p.s. i voted for Stalin in this pool. i liked playing as soviet in Red Alert - that was a great game and my favorite line from it is when Stalin says: "When you kill one man that is a tragedy, but when you kill ten million that's a statistic."
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Postby Norse on Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:56 am

I love the phrase "anti-commie propoganda".
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Postby nagerous on Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:15 am

I voted Lenin, though he wasn't a fascist or a dictator ;)
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Postby unriggable on Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:56 am

xtratabasco wrote:where is Bush on the list?


Fixed. This the only part of the post that matters.
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Postby ignotus on Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:06 am

Voting for Lenin or Stalin shouldn't be an option, because they were Communists and not fascists. Rest are Nazi socialists and various different historical figures that had nothing to do with fascism.

Mussolini "invented" the term fascism, so he is really the only true fascist in the pool.
Plus, Mussolini had a wife, had a mistress, ruled the country (Italy) longer than Hitler Germany.

Hmmmm... Maybe his son in law Galeazzo Ciano is even a better choice. :wink:
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Postby Norse on Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:33 am

ignotus wrote:Voting for Lenin or Stalin shouldn't be an option, because they were Communists and not fascists


Fascist, by definition:

Most scholars agree that a "fascist regime" is foremost an authoritarian form of government

Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interests of the state

fascism had a strong base of support among the working classes and extremely poor peasants

Most scholars hold that fascism as a social movement employs elements from the political left
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