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PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
Neutrino wrote:I would be far more inclined to believe any of the stuff that you claim to have occurred if you actually had a good number of facts to back it up. As it is, all you have is a few articles from people who have no experience in metallurgy or weapon technology claiming they know better than a huge number of actual experts in those fields.
Also, the sheer number of logical holes in the theory is a huge impediment to getting your point across. Why didn't te government just assassinate all the original conspiracy theorists before the movement really started? Where are all the workers that wired the WTC with explosives? In fact, how did they manage to set the entire thing up in 2 days? etc, etc, ad nauseum.
Essentially all you are acomplishing with your ill-supported arguments and your insistence on calling everyone not sharing your view "sheep" is ensuring that few, if any, will ever join you.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:
Few of us realize this. Please don't disturb the sheep.
Frigidus wrote:I saw the thread and I thought that xtra was unbanned. Close call.
jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:I would be far more inclined to believe any of the stuff that you claim to have occurred if you actually had a good number of facts to back it up. As it is, all you have is a few articles from people who have no experience in metallurgy or weapon technology claiming they know better than a huge number of actual experts in those fields.
Also, the sheer number of logical holes in the theory is a huge impediment to getting your point across. Why didn't te government just assassinate all the original conspiracy theorists before the movement really started? Where are all the workers that wired the WTC with explosives? In fact, how did they manage to set the entire thing up in 2 days? etc, etc, ad nauseum.
Essentially all you are acomplishing with your ill-supported arguments and your insistence on calling everyone not sharing your view "sheep" is ensuring that few, if any, will ever join you.
911 has been used to erode our civil liberties. And the sheep say,"For safety from terrorists we will give them up".
reverend_kyle wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:I would be far more inclined to believe any of the stuff that you claim to have occurred if you actually had a good number of facts to back it up. As it is, all you have is a few articles from people who have no experience in metallurgy or weapon technology claiming they know better than a huge number of actual experts in those fields.
Also, the sheer number of logical holes in the theory is a huge impediment to getting your point across. Why didn't te government just assassinate all the original conspiracy theorists before the movement really started? Where are all the workers that wired the WTC with explosives? In fact, how did they manage to set the entire thing up in 2 days? etc, etc, ad nauseum.
Essentially all you are acomplishing with your ill-supported arguments and your insistence on calling everyone not sharing your view "sheep" is ensuring that few, if any, will ever join you.
911 has been used to erode our civil liberties. And the sheep say,"For safety from terrorists we will give them up".
Says the person, who just a year ago was GWB's biggest ballwasher and was more than happy to give away his civil liberties.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:
Logic man, logic!
4 hijacked planes used as "missiles" and the world's top military defense doesn't respond.
jay_a2j wrote:2 days? It would take much longer than that to plant the explosive needed to bring down building 7 (much less the towers) yet building 7 was "pulled" ON 911. How is this possible unless the explosives were already in place.
jay_a2j wrote:911 has been used to erode our civil liberties.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:In fact, why have none of these potentially thousands of people come forward, after the fact, to admit their part in it?
I don't know, my guess would be they'd rather stay alive.
jay_a2j wrote:
In fact, why have none of these potentially thousands of people come forward, after the fact, to admit their part in it?
I don't know, my guess would be they'd rather stay alive.
Neutrino wrote:And don't tell me that no-one is willing to risk it. People have shot celebrities point blank, knowing they'd be caught, just for the fame. Why should these people be any different?
The1exile wrote:jay_a2j wrote:In fact, why have none of these potentially thousands of people come forward, after the fact, to admit their part in it?
I don't know, my guess would be they'd rather stay alive.
Yeah, the leprechaun told me he'd kill me if I told people he existed.
Seriously jay, the "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you" style line there is good for a joke but just sad when it's the actual basis for an argument.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:The1exile wrote:jay_a2j wrote:In fact, why have none of these potentially thousands of people come forward, after the fact, to admit their part in it?
I don't know, my guess would be they'd rather stay alive.
Yeah, the leprechaun told me he'd kill me if I told people he existed.
Seriously jay, the "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you" style line there is good for a joke but just sad when it's the actual basis for an argument.
I could tell you but then someone will kill me. That's a little different.
Snorri1234 wrote:jay_a2j wrote:The1exile wrote:jay_a2j wrote:In fact, why have none of these potentially thousands of people come forward, after the fact, to admit their part in it?
I don't know, my guess would be they'd rather stay alive.
Yeah, the leprechaun told me he'd kill me if I told people he existed.
Seriously jay, the "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you" style line there is good for a joke but just sad when it's the actual basis for an argument.
I could tell you but then someone will kill me. That's a little different.
Yes and since everyone is in on it, (seriously, I think the whole government knows about it,) you would be silenced before actually being able to spread your story.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:reverend_kyle wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:I would be far more inclined to believe any of the stuff that you claim to have occurred if you actually had a good number of facts to back it up. As it is, all you have is a few articles from people who have no experience in metallurgy or weapon technology claiming they know better than a huge number of actual experts in those fields.
Also, the sheer number of logical holes in the theory is a huge impediment to getting your point across. Why didn't te government just assassinate all the original conspiracy theorists before the movement really started? Where are all the workers that wired the WTC with explosives? In fact, how did they manage to set the entire thing up in 2 days? etc, etc, ad nauseum.
Essentially all you are acomplishing with your ill-supported arguments and your insistence on calling everyone not sharing your view "sheep" is ensuring that few, if any, will ever join you.
911 has been used to erode our civil liberties. And the sheep say,"For safety from terrorists we will give them up".
Says the person, who just a year ago was GWB's biggest ballwasher and was more than happy to give away his civil liberties.
Could you keep your personal life out of this? And I was never that big of a fan of Bush.
2004 After watching the DNC (hoping they would say something to get me to vote for them) I voted lesser of 2 evil's Bush, again.
Ettin wrote:2004 After watching the DNC (hoping they would say something to get me to vote for them) I voted lesser of 2 evil's Bush, again.
Wait...I must be missing something. You think that the government, headed by Bush, blew up the World Trade Center. But...he was the lesser of two evils? I have to be missing something. Like seriously, no sarcasm.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
Neutrino wrote:Jay, you still haven't answered my question.
To pull off a conspiracy of that size, tens of thousands of people would have had to be involved. Why is it then that precisely 0 of them have come forward? Sure, that would entail no little risk, but throught recorded history people have sacrificed themselves for what they believe in. Why should this group of people be exempt from basic human nature?
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:Jay, you still haven't answered my question.
To pull off a conspiracy of that size, tens of thousands of people would have had to be involved. Why is it then that precisely 0 of them have come forward? Sure, that would entail no little risk, but throught recorded history people have sacrificed themselves for what they believe in. Why should this group of people be exempt from basic human nature?
Seriously, watch ZEITGEIST - The Movie (in other thread). There is a force, a powerful force running the planet. The media is helping them achieve their agenda. Really, a must watch film....it would have opened my eyes, if they hadn't already recently been open.
Frigidus wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:Jay, you still haven't answered my question.
To pull off a conspiracy of that size, tens of thousands of people would have had to be involved. Why is it then that precisely 0 of them have come forward? Sure, that would entail no little risk, but throught recorded history people have sacrificed themselves for what they believe in. Why should this group of people be exempt from basic human nature?
Seriously, watch ZEITGEIST - The Movie (in other thread). There is a force, a powerful force running the planet. The media is helping them achieve their agenda. Really, a must watch film....it would have opened my eyes, if they hadn't already recently been open.
How can you be sure that the guy who made Zeitgeist doesn't have an agenda and is using the movie to create doubt in your mind? It's far more likely than the entire planet being controlled from the shadows for the last who knows how many years.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:Jay, you still haven't answered my question.
To pull off a conspiracy of that size, tens of thousands of people would have had to be involved. Why is it then that precisely 0 of them have come forward? Sure, that would entail no little risk, but throught recorded history people have sacrificed themselves for what they believe in. Why should this group of people be exempt from basic human nature?
Seriously, watch ZEITGEIST - The Movie (in other thread). There is a force, a powerful force running the planet. The media is helping them achieve their agenda. Really, a must watch film....it would have opened my eyes, if they hadn't already recently been open.
jay_a2j wrote:Frigidus wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:Jay, you still haven't answered my question.
To pull off a conspiracy of that size, tens of thousands of people would have had to be involved. Why is it then that precisely 0 of them have come forward? Sure, that would entail no little risk, but throught recorded history people have sacrificed themselves for what they believe in. Why should this group of people be exempt from basic human nature?
Seriously, watch ZEITGEIST - The Movie (in other thread). There is a force, a powerful force running the planet. The media is helping them achieve their agenda. Really, a must watch film....it would have opened my eyes, if they hadn't already recently been open.
How can you be sure that the guy who made Zeitgeist doesn't have an agenda and is using the movie to create doubt in your mind? It's far more likely than the entire planet being controlled from the shadows for the last who knows how many years.
60+ years... I think (according to the movie)
heavycola wrote:jay_a2j wrote:Neutrino wrote:Jay, you still haven't answered my question.
To pull off a conspiracy of that size, tens of thousands of people would have had to be involved. Why is it then that precisely 0 of them have come forward? Sure, that would entail no little risk, but throught recorded history people have sacrificed themselves for what they believe in. Why should this group of people be exempt from basic human nature?
Seriously, watch ZEITGEIST - The Movie (in other thread). There is a force, a powerful force running the planet. The media is helping them achieve their agenda. Really, a must watch film....it would have opened my eyes, if they hadn't already recently been open.
Questions (unless I am on ignore - you ignored my last post):
a) what is this 'powerful force's agenda?
b) I work in the media - am I helping them achieve whatever a) is?
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
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