I'm no Dr, are vaccinations that bad?

[Juan_Bottom]

http://www.rense.com/general83/ozc.htm

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/app ... GECAROUSEL

Well, as I listen to free radio this morning, they're really reaming government vaccinations today. For containing things like Mercury, Silver Nitrate, and Aluminum. The UN seems to be attacking our government for it too...
I've been hearing more and more about people refusing to take them.... and lately big news corps have really been pushing the agenda with sob stories about kids who didn't get their vaccinations, and end up a lepper. And what about that polygamist group, whose kids were forced to take the vaccines?
Anyway, I could post a million more of these "no vaccines" articles..... but seriously, I'm no Dr...... so are they bad?

[Snorri1234]

No, they are not bad. There are groups of crazy people everywhere who think it is, even here, but they are the only way to prevent dying from horrible diseases. There have been a number of outbreaks of kids-diseases in our very own bible-belt (yeah we have one too!) which spread like wildfire through those parts of the country where parents didn't get their kids vaccined because "God wouldn't want it". Over here we can't force people to get them, but I sure would like to.


Also, the occaisonal parent not vaccinating their kid is actually no big deal at all. Even getting your vaccins only means you're about 99% sure you won't get a disease. But since there is almost no way you can get it from others and the chances of it spreading are almost nihil it is basically stopped from the start. 1 or 2% of the people not getting them is okay.

[bedub1]

If you don't get vaccinated, you better have had the chance to suck on mommies boobies for a very long time. One of the things you get from Breast Milk is lots of assistance in fighting diseases.

The initial milk produced is often referred to as colostrum, which is high in the immunoglobulin IgA, which coats the gastrointestinal tract. This helps to protect the newborn until its own immune system is functioning properly along with creating a mild laxative effect, expelling meconium and helping to prevent the build up of bilirubin (a contributory factor in jaundice).

Breast milk also contains antibodies and lymphocytes from the mother that help the baby resist infections. The immune function of breastmilk is individualized, as the mother, through her touching and taking care of the baby, comes into contact with pathogens that colonize the baby and consequently her body makes the appropriate antibodies and immune cells. This is a process that obviously cannot be replicated on an industrial basis.

[richardgarr]

Vaccines are how they get the mind control nanos into the populace. Jeesh I thought everyone knew that.

[FabledIntegral]

Haha my biology teacher went off on these reports... said they were completely unfounded... something to do with the correlations being skewed, idk. But yeah, it was pretty funny, she's also really biased, but she went into how people who don't have much knowledge in the subject make assumptions and panic, when if you studied more into it you'd realize it's a load of bull.

Pity I'm a business econ major and not a biology major so...

[Snorri1234]

Haha my biology teacher went off on these reports... said they were completely unfounded... something to do with the correlations being skewed, idk. But yeah, it was pretty funny, she's also really biased, but she went into how people who don't have much knowledge in the subject make assumptions and panic, when if you studied more into it you'd realize it's a load of bull.

Pity I'm a business econ major and not a biology major so...

Well either that or all the doctors I meet are in on the scam.

[jonesthecurl]

Not all objections to vaccinations are religious.

For instance, there are those who believe that bundling together Measles Mumps and Rubella in one jab is a mistake. I have seen scientists and statisticians arguing both sides of this one. It is possible that people should be given the choice of haveing three individual injections instead.

However, the risks are higher not having the injections than having them either way.

On the other hand different countries take different views - in the UK we don't vaccinate for chickenpox. We all get it, it's not that serious. I know very few people who have not had it. I have had endless hassle with US bureaucrats about the fact that my kids haven't had a chikcenpox jab. Every time some petty pen-pusher notices this I have the argument all over again. "They've had the disease. They don't NEED the innoculation!"

Thay are talking here in NJ of making meningitis jabs compulsory - my kids had them, along with all the other kids where we then lived, when there was a death locally, and some real risk had arisen.

Some people think all kids should have flu shots every year. I disagree. I think people beileve the incidence of flu is higher than it really is. Most people who think they've had "the flu" have merely had a heavy cold, even during most flu scares. Mass innoculations will not protect against a new strain, which is almost always what causes an "epidemic" anyway.

[Snorri1234]

Not all objections to vaccinations are religious.

For instance, there are those who believe that bundling together Measles Mumps and Rubella in one jab is a mistake.

I've heard that one. It doesn't seem to hold much water though.

[jonesthecurl]

I have no opinion, and not enough knowledge to dismiss the people with doubts.
My kids both had the bundled MMR jab though.

[qeee1]

I'm rockin' the mmr bundle deal, and so far it's worked out pretty well.

[Nickbaldwin]

I'm pumped full of the fuckers.

[DaGip]

I refuse vaccinations of all sorts. Vaccines not only contain the virus that it is supposed to cure, but it also contains often monkey puss as an inoculating medium...ewww!

Best way to avoid disease is to keep your immune system strong and see a chiropractor every once in a while.

The body is fully capable of curing and healing itself of any disease....

Stick your monkey puss laden vaccinations up your arse!

[Skittles!]

I refuse vaccinations of all sorts. Vaccines not only contain the virus that it is supposed to cure, but it also contains often monkey puss as an inoculating medium...ewww!

Best way to avoid disease is to keep your immune system strong and see a chiropractor every once in a while.

The body is fully capable of curing and healing itself of any disease....

Stick your monkey puss laden vaccinations up your arse!

Except for so many diseases.

[Juan_Bottom]

Free radio, did have Doctors on this morning. These guys didn't sound like idiots.
And they read from a recent UN report which stated that most American Vaccinations could not be given overseas because they were too risky. A lot of these are still the same formula that they were when they were invented. Some from the early 1900s(but most from the 20s and 30s). And what about the metals included in the vaccines? Mercury???

[Snorri1234]

A lot of these are still the same formula that they were when they were invented.

I'm not an expert on American-style vaccinations, but....duh? It's usually a crippled or dead virus/bacteria injected so that the body can build up the resistance itself. That's the way it fucking works. There is no formula that changes since it's the same virus or bacteria.

And I know nothing about metals included, but yeah any are bad in them. But that would be just a result of retarded ways that the US uses and not something against vaccins in general.

[jonesthecurl]

Any US doctors with the gen on this?

[Juan_Bottom]

A lot of these are still the same formula that they were when they were invented.

I'm not an expert on American-style vaccinations, but....duh? It's usually a crippled or dead virus/bacteria injected so that the body can build up the resistance itself. That's the way it fucking works. There is no formula that changes since it's the same virus or bacteria.

And I know nothing about metals included, but yeah any are bad in them. But that would be just a result of retarded ways that the US uses and not something against vaccins in general.

The fact that they haven't changed is bad, because they are a hundred years old. They still have the metals that Drs thought were good for you.

[Snorri1234]

The fact that they haven't changed is bad, because they are a hundred years old.

Not really. If it's still largely the same virus it will work swimmingly.

They still have the metals that Drs thought were good for you.

Well ofcourse that is bad. But those aren't included in the vaccins here for like fucking long. Generally a vaccin contains nothing but the dead or crippled virus/bacteria so it cannot be bad for you. (Unless you're one of those rare cases who is hypersensitive to it but that is so uncommon that it's unimportant.)

[DaGip]

I refuse vaccinations of all sorts. Vaccines not only contain the virus that it is supposed to cure, but it also contains often monkey puss as an inoculating medium...ewww!

Best way to avoid disease is to keep your immune system strong and see a chiropractor every once in a while.

The body is fully capable of curing and healing itself of any disease....

Stick your monkey puss laden vaccinations up your arse!

Except for so many diseases.

On the contrary...any disease can be overcome if your immune system is working at an optimum level. The reason why disease and illness takes hold of some people is due to their immune systems not working at 100% capability.

Some people have cured themselves of cancer...doctors call it remission or sometimes "a miracle", but the reality is that the human body CAN cure cancer! You just need to get your immune system working, and one way of doing this is maintaining good spinal health through a good chiropractic program.

STAY OUT OF HOSPITALS AT ALL COSTS!

[Snorri1234]

On the contrary...any disease can be overcome if your immune system is working at an optimum level. The reason why disease and illness takes hold of some people is due to their immune systems not working at 100% capability.

Where did you get your medical degree?

[The1exile]

they're really reaming government vaccinations today. For containing things like Mercury, Silver Nitrate, and Aluminum. The UN seems to be attacking our government for it too...

is there any basis for this at all, and if they are in there, are you sure it isn't just natural trace salts and such? I mean, I'm no expert on the composition of natural minerals in tap water but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if silver nitrate was in it.

[The1exile]

On the contrary...any disease can be overcome if your immune system is working at an optimum level. The reason why disease and illness takes hold of some people is due to their immune systems not working at 100% capability.

tell you what, why don't you get aids, then tell us that.

[Snorri1234]

On the contrary...any disease can be overcome if your immune system is working at an optimum level. The reason why disease and illness takes hold of some people is due to their immune systems not working at 100% capability.

tell you what, why don't you get aids, then tell us that.

Yeah I think Gip might've overlooked all diseases that basically attack your immune-system.

Quite a lot of those there are actually.

[qeee1]

So DaGip is a pretty silly fellow, huh?

[jonesthecurl]

I thought praying instead of going to the doc's was weird...