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pimpdave wrote:The Communist Manifesto is a little bit more complicated than that.
thegreekdog wrote: On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
Snorri1234 wrote:thegreekdog wrote: On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
Uh yeah did anyone ever claim otherwise? The USSR was fascist.
Communism and Fascism aren't completely opposite ideologies, they're just completely different ideologies.
thegreekdog wrote:pimpdave wrote:The Communist Manifesto is a little bit more complicated than that.
I agree. I'm not sure what you mean though.
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jsholty4690 wrote:Commi-Nazis! I hate Commi-Nazis.![]()
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thegreekdog wrote:
I agree. I'm not sure what you mean though.
Titanic wrote:Your clutching on strings that arn't even there.
thegreekdog wrote:I agree. I'm not sure what you mean though.
thegreekdog wrote:
So, next time one of you sees someone who believes they are polar opposite theories or government systems, remind that someone that just because two countries go to war, does not mean they have completely disparate political ideologies.
PLAYER57832 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:
So, next time one of you sees someone who believes they are polar opposite theories or government systems, remind that someone that just because two countries go to war, does not mean they have completely disparate political ideologies.
Political thinking IS best described as a circle, rather than a straight line. The further left you go, the further you do start to look like the right.
In their extremes, both Fascism and Communism subject and control people to a horrible extent. However, the mechanisms are quite different. Also, in the "gentler edges", as opposed to the extremes of each system, they are quite different.
Most particularly, Communism focuses a large part on economic "equality" (theoretically) and control (more a true marker), set by a committee. Fascism more often has a single leader and often is more political in nature, though they do wind up controlling economics.
Again, at the extremes, they do approach each other. However, where they "meet" is something neither wholly Communist nor wholly Fascist.
6.57 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:
I agree. I'm not sure what you mean though.
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thegreekdog wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:
So, next time one of you sees someone who believes they are polar opposite theories or government systems, remind that someone that just because two countries go to war, does not mean they have completely disparate political ideologies.
Political thinking IS best described as a circle, rather than a straight line. The further left you go, the further you do start to look like the right.
In their extremes, both Fascism and Communism subject and control people to a horrible extent. However, the mechanisms are quite different. Also, in the "gentler edges", as opposed to the extremes of each system, they are quite different.
Most particularly, Communism focuses a large part on economic "equality" (theoretically) and control (more a true marker), set by a committee. Fascism more often has a single leader and often is more political in nature, though they do wind up controlling economics.
Again, at the extremes, they do approach each other. However, where they "meet" is something neither wholly Communist nor wholly Fascist.
I still don't see any glaring differences between the two (apart from the Nazis hating the Soviet Union and vice versa).
thegreekdog wrote:6.57 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:
I agree. I'm not sure what you mean though.
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Yes, good job... you pointed out the inconsistency between those two sentences. I'll be sending you a cookie in the mail shortly.
Titanic wrote:Your clutching on strings that arn't even there.
thegreekdog wrote:I agree. I'm not sure what you mean though.
thegreekdog wrote:Note there are some similarities between the theories (especially the regarding the evils of class, capitalism, and individualism, as well as freedom). On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
thegreekdog wrote:Note there are some similarities between the theories (especially the regarding the evils of class, capitalism, and individualism, as well as freedom). On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
SultanOfSurreal wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Note there are some similarities between the theories (especially the regarding the evils of class, capitalism, and individualism, as well as freedom). On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
you know nothing about communism
or fascism for that matter
SultanOfSurreal wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Note there are some similarities between the theories (especially the regarding the evils of class, capitalism, and individualism, as well as freedom). On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
you know nothing about communism
or fascism for that matter
thegreekdog wrote:SultanOfSurreal wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Note there are some similarities between the theories (especially the regarding the evils of class, capitalism, and individualism, as well as freedom). On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
you know nothing about communism
or fascism for that matter
I'm rubber, you're glue...
Alternatively, you could elaborate, but you won't do that, so I refer to my first statement.
SultanOfSurreal wrote:thegreekdog wrote:SultanOfSurreal wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Note there are some similarities between the theories (especially the regarding the evils of class, capitalism, and individualism, as well as freedom). On a practical basis, there are striking similarities between fascist Germany and communist Russia.
you know nothing about communism
or fascism for that matter
I'm rubber, you're glue...
Alternatively, you could elaborate, but you won't do that, so I refer to my first statement.
why should i elaborate when your understanding of communism consists entirely of talking points like "they hate freedom"
maybe you should actually read some marx and think about how stalinism and maoism are different from communism
the same goes for your laughably simplistic conception fascism. one of the central tenants of a fascist system is corporatism, which while not lassiez-faire, is certainly not a repudiation of capitalism. just the opposite. and that's not even getting into the class issue inherent in fascism. ahunda's post on these points was very good, though it only scratches the surface, naturally.
you live in a world where every system that opposes your own narrow experience with capitalism is identical. you use wikipedia as a primary source and fail even to understand that. it is ridiculous and insane and until you take the time to learn a fucking thing, i have no interest in discussing the vagaries of political philosophy with you
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