teams doubles league

[yorkiepeter]

exactly what am i not allowed to do? i just want to play a fair game. we're supposed to pick a home court and you very shadily disallowed me from doing so. is it simply that i'm not allowed to say so?

I did not disallow the maps at all. Get your facts right please. In fact I was the one that created the maps in the first place. Complaints came in, not from your opponents but someone else, to which my response was to defend thota and in fact i removed that rule.

The reason the maps were changed was at the request of your team captain

[dcc1220]

Game 1265796 Legends of War defeat double dragoons

[Nephilim]

exactly what am i not allowed to do? i just want to play a fair game. we're supposed to pick a home court and you very shadily disallowed me from doing so. is it simply that i'm not allowed to say so?

I did not disallow the maps at all. Get your facts right please. In fact I was the one that created the maps in the first place. Complaints came in, not from your opponents but someone else, to which my response was to defend thota and in fact i removed that rule.

The reason the maps were changed was at the request of your team captain

excuse me, what? wain and i discussed which maps we would play on, chose them, gave them to you, you created the games, then EWL protested and you disallowed them.

IMPORTANT: the only maps that will be available are standard risk maps. Any map that includes special techniques such as aom, pearl harbour etc will not be allowed.


So what is with thota and their maps....they have age of merchants..pearl harbor..rail usa..king of mountains..benelux... I wouldnt consider any of them standard risk maps.

Yorkie should have never made those games. He clearly stated himself that they were not allowed..

Home team will choose all 16 maps. pm them to me and i will create theml. Once created You will have 1 week to join them all and send to your opposing captain. Your opponents will then have 1 week to get all games active. IMPORTANT: the only maps that will be available are standard risk maps. Any map that includes special techniques such as aom, pearl harbour etc will not be allowed.

yes i did. I think it is up to thota's opponents to object though.

If they do, then i guess thota will have to change them

look rite there, it's a direct quote, you stated your official opinion on the matter: if our opponents don't approve our home court maps, they will have to be changed. you clearly disallowed the maps when EWL protested....wain heard the protest and complied w/ your order....now you're trying to say it was all his idea? have you lost your mind? and another thing: you said you removed the rule.....then enforced a non-existent rule.....then got all offended b/c people complain about the organization of the tourney....what do you expect? you've changed all your rules about allowable maps AND didn't tell us about the scoring until after the first round was complete for some teams.....ya, either you've lost your mind or i have, none of it makes sense. you've contradicted yourself over and over again, and haven't addressed most of the salient points.

i for one want to continue in this tourney but i can't tell what is going on......

[yorkiepeter]

have you lost your mind? and another thing: you said you removed the rule.....then enforced a non-existent rule.....then got all offended b/c people complain about the organization of the tourney....what do you expect? you've changed all your rules about allowable maps AND didn't tell us about the scoring until after the first round was complete for some teams.....ya, either you've lost your mind or i have, none of it makes sense. you've contradicted yourself over and over again, and haven't addressed most of the salient points.

i for one want to continue in this tourney but i can't tell what is going on......

Well tough because I for one being the tournament organiser am not prepared to have you in my tournament any longer. I have deregistered you as a player and should you appear in any thota games that game will result in a default win for the opposition.

No further discussion from me and my decision is final.

[Battle-Rage]

Double Dragoons over legends of war in 2 games:-

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1265785
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1265788

The underdogs bite back!

[Nephilim]

well yorkie, i don't know what to tell ya......you've acted like a bitchy, loony old woman throughout this entire affair, spouting off about "neph will not bring my tourney into disrepute."

you're probably too stupid to understand that your own actions here have severely harmed your standing as a tourney organizer. maybe you've done great in all the rest, but this is an absolute sham. you didn't make the rules clear. you rigged the rules so we could not have a home field advantage. you lied about david wain, asserting that HE initiated the disqualification of our maps.

you can't respond to simple, logical points against you, other than to say, "you're kicked from the tourney." i'm glad to bow out, it's a shitfest and what's more, your expulsion of me only proves that i'm right. you can't bear to hear that this thing is a trash heap, so you're just getting rid of the loudest complainer. very mature.......

either you were intentionally trying to screw my clan from the outset, or you're incompetent. but your worst quality is your total inability to have an adult conversation about the problems w/ this tourney. nice job throwing out maps as you go and making up the scoring system after the first round is over, kudos!

big baby......

[comic boy]

Yorkie

You have made an arse of yourself

[stevieQ]

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either you were intentionally trying to screw my clan from the outset, or you're incompetent. but your worst quality is your total inability to have an adult conversation about the problems w/ this tourney. nice job throwing out maps as you go and making up the scoring system after the first round is over, kudos!

I can't say that the rules haven't changed, but you accusing anyone of "not being willing to have an adult conversation" is laughable.

First of all, the scoring doesn't really make that big of a difference. It looks as if match wins will be the first score, I'm sure game wins would be used as a tie breaker for seeding or whatever. I just don't see the big deal there. as for the maps complaint, you may have had a legitimate complaint there, but maybe you should learn how to discuss things like an adult if you want to get your way.

Also, trying to address the problems via PM instead of attacking yorkie in the forums would have been a more effective way to try to communicate.

Sorry I'm not really trying to take sides here, but you acted like a 14 year old girl throwing a temper tantrum when your mom wouldn't buy you the boy band cd you wanted.

[xxtig12683xx]

lol, good burn steve!

[David_Wain]

Ok after talking with Yorkie online it is clear that all rules are cleared up and resolved now so there is no longer any need for dispute... Gimmicky maps can be used but only in moderation so say no more than 2 on a certain map in any given round so as not give any specialists on certain maps a clear advantage.... As for the league format there are 18 rounds of 16 games per round in total the likelihood of any 2 teams both being joint top with say 14 wins is very unlikely there will most likely be a clear winner at the end. But in the unlikelihood of a tie the win difference will count for the win I personally feel this is a great way of doing it and it seems alot of effort has been put into this which we do very much appreciate Yorkie.

Regarding Neph I don't feel kicking him out is the solution perhaps a match ban or just sort it out would be better..... you are both big parts of the CC community and I am sure u can be amicable with one another there was obviously just a big misunderstanding which has now been resolved... Please can we move past this and all just.............. Get along.

[trestain]

aww don't kick neph out, thats where all the easy wins against thota will come from

[Nephilim]

well stevie, i repeatedly tried to get the map problem resolved publicly, since it concerns everyone.....seems quite logical. however, i don't expect you to understand that, here's why: whether the scoring system is good or bad is irrelevant. the issue is, yorkie did not reveal the system until the tourney was well underway. since you seem too daft to get that, i will assume other simple points are past your intelligence as well (fitting avatar you have there).

and of course, stevie's flames of me will be passed over, as apparently i am the only one capable of bringing yorkie's tourney "into disrepute"

and stevie, if you read back over the thread, as i just did, i think you'll find that aside from a few jabs at my frightened opponents (ooooh, so taboo and immature!), i've simply asked for clarification of the rules. yorkie has repeatedly refused to give them and laid all the blame for this mess on me. maybe you and him are cut from the same irrational cloth?

aww don't kick neph out, thats where all the easy wins against thota will come from

13-8 vs you all time, big boy, what you say now?

[happy2seeyou]

aww don't kick neph out, thats where all the easy wins against thota will come from

13-8 vs you all time, big boy, what you say now?

hehe I would like to say that I am 7-2 against ya in doubles.... soon to be 8-2. Any last words?

[David_Wain]

lets set 5 games.

[stevieQ]

well stevie, i repeatedly tried to get the map problem resolved publicly, since it concerns everyone.....seems quite logical. however, i don't expect you to understand that, here's why: whether the scoring system is good or bad is irrelevant. the issue is, yorkie did not reveal the system until the tourney was well underway. since you seem too daft to get that, i will assume other simple points are past your intelligence as well (fitting avatar you have there).

and of course, stevie's flames of me will be passed over, as apparently i am the only one capable of bringing yorkie's tourney "into disrepute"

and stevie, if you read back over the thread, as i just did, i think you'll find that aside from a few jabs at my frightened opponents (ooooh, so taboo and immature!), i've simply asked for clarification of the rules. yorkie has repeatedly refused to give them and laid all the blame for this mess on me. maybe you and him are cut from the same irrational cloth?

aww don't kick neph out, thats where all the easy wins against thota will come from

13-8 vs you all time, big boy, what you say now?

Just thought I'd mention that you clearly didn't actually read what I wrote above. I never said that the rules didn't change and that this tournament has been run perfectly. I also never said that the scoring wasn't changed, it was clarified after tournament. Sure it would have been nice to know the scoring system before, but would it have really mattered?

Anyway, I'm done with this discussion as there's really no point in arguing with you about something that is now done.

As for the flaming of you, how could I know after the way you embarrassed yourself with your public meltdown?

[happy2seeyou]

lets set 5 games.

I'm beating you as well.... 5-4 See you soon buttercup, the games will be dandy

[casper]

Ok the scoring system is fine. Apologies for calling it 'ghey' earlier. I just don't understand the point of playing 16 games to earn one point. How often is a soccer game 9-7 or 10-6? Surely 2 per clan team for a total of 8 per round would be enough. e.g. 5-3, 6-2...a bit more efficient.

So what happens with an 8-8 tie?...oh that's right you'll just make it up as you go along.

[David_Wain]

I imagine it's 2 points for a win 1 for a draw... 0 for a loss....

[yorkiepeter]

I imagine it's 2 points for a win 1 for a draw... 0 for a loss....

exactly, not rocket science now is it?

[casper]

Ok yeah I see on the standings chart...nevermind!

[Battle-Rage]

Another win for Double Dragoons over legends of war!

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1265786

[Gold Knight]

Regarding Neph I don't feel kicking him out is the solution perhaps a match ban or just sort it out would be better..... you are both big parts of the CC community and I am sure u can be amicable with one another there was obviously just a big misunderstanding which has now been resolved... Please can we move past this and all just.............. Get along.

I agree, though not trying to start an argument. I feel the matter could have been avoided entirely if a list of the maps you (Yorkie) had specifically labeled as "gimmicky". I really dont even feel there should be any type of ban, as long as ive known Neph he's been pretty respectable (besides Bama Football ) and this can be settled much better than "Its my tourney nyah nyah nyah nyah". But Neph couldve also been a little more civil as well. Lets just pull up our big boy pants and put this behind us, how bout it?

[rebelman]

nice to see a bit of peace and tranquility after breaking out around here - hope it can stay that way

the decision is yours yorkie but i do think a one game suspension of the player in question as suggested by dw would be more fitting than an expulsion from the tournie but its your tournie and obviously your call.

come on untouchables lets get a win on the board

[yorkiepeter]

nice to see a bit of peace and tranquility after breaking out around here - hope it can stay that way

the decision is yours yorkie but i do think a one game suspension of the player in question as suggested by dw would be more fitting than an expulsion from the tournie but its your tournie and obviously your call.

come on untouchables lets get a win on the board

rebelman - such an inappropriate name for cc's finest diplomat.

OK then a 1 match suspension, provided he completely refrains from posting in this forum. He may pm me if needed or he can liaise with his captain, but i will not under any circumstances put up with any more comments from this man. I tell you I would sooner abandon the whole thing.

Is that agreed. DW please respond.

[khazalid]

a one match ban? dude, hold your hands up and take it like a man. sure neph is vulgar, abusive and crude but it doesn't make him wrong about it. i suggest to him he is slightly more polite when dealing with tourney organisers and i suggest to you not to be such a bitch. given past performances though, who knows how that one will play out. if the one match ban stands and if the rest of the clan are happy enough to continue despite that, then i will replace neph for that game.