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Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

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Re: Owenator ... I dont believe in improbable coincidence

Postby king achilles on Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:52 am

I checked if owenator is a multi with any new recruit and he is cleared. He also has a mixture of opponents.

For a newbie farming case possibility, I think it is no longer surprising that Feudal map is one of those maps that certain people have loved to use and create games from it, which coincidentally, many new recruits actually join. One question to ponder for one's intention is, would you love the map this much if you were not playing with new recruits most of the time?

I will be less strict from now on regarding this newbie farming rule as I do not want to dictate how a player wishes to enjoy the game on this site.

If the accused is the one joining the games and/or we see evidence that he/she is inviting new recruits, then we probably have a case to look at.

Still, if a player has mostly new recruits as his opponents in his collection of games with a specific setting, we might suggest to change your preferred settings from time to time in respect of the newbie farming rule.

If we get reports or comments about certain maps that have been 'abused' because they lure too many new recruits often, who knows, there could be some adjustments to further balance the games out there.
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Re: Owenator ... I dont believe in improbable coincidence

Postby neanderpaul14 on Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:16 pm

king achilles wrote: One question to ponder for one's intention is, would you love the map this much if you were not playing with new recruits most of the time?



Still, if a player has mostly new recruits as his opponents in his collection of games with a specific setting, we might suggest to change your preferred settings from time to time in respect of the newbie farming rule.

If we get reports or comments about certain maps that have been 'abused' because they lure too many new recruits often, who knows, there could be some adjustments to further balance the games out there.



Why isn't Feudal one of the maps that new recruits can't join???? It isn't exactly a straight forward map.
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Re: Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

Postby BoganGod on Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:02 pm

A large number of people have asked that same question Paul, with no real coherent response from the powers that be.
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Re: Owenator ... I dont believe in improbable coincidence

Postby army of nobunaga on Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:57 pm

BoganGod wrote:Do homework? Come on kid. You don't post a thread in here, unless you have a serious point(you don't), which leads me to believe that you hold a grudge against Owen. Thread fail. You don't join games like ducks to a pond... So your scared of playing good players. Interesting.. Would like more ? marks to join your games. Wow.



just let me sum this up

THanx for checking IPS mods, hope you looked at proxy releys, but im sure you did.

Sorry owenator. Regardless of the outcome if i didnt think I had a case I would not have posted. There are a lot of cheaters in this game and in my mind its sad so I always do my part to report them.

for the record BG.. I dont hold grudges... not in RL especially in a dumb game.
and also for the record , there is a short list of what Im afraid of. Far from that list is playing any motherfucker in CC.


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Re: Owenator ... I dont believe in improbable coincidence

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:00 pm

king achilles wrote:One question to ponder for one's intention is, would you love the map this much if you were not playing with new recruits most of the time?


This problem didn't occur until new recruits were restricted on the maps they could play on. you would have 1 new recruit max in a game. to be honest, the new recruits are a nuisance now, because they are so unpredictable, and you'll end up with an early suicide about 50% more offten.
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Re: Owenator ... I dont believe in improbable coincidence

Postby Thezzaruz on Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:13 pm

army of nobunaga wrote:1)there is a pattern that occurs when he starts a 4 or 5 man feudal map


True. It's a quite random assortment of opponents with about the expected number of newbies.


army of nobunaga wrote:2) this pattern doesnt exist with any random subset of ppl I randomly checked before I created this thread


Seems like you made some poor assumptions that led you to some incorrect conclusions. When looking at other relevant games created by other players the same pattern does in fact exist.


army of nobunaga wrote:All I fucking ask was a statistical lopsided join rate be looked into.


What you think is lopsidedness actually has some very simple and logical explanations.


Lastly I hope that achilles and the rest of the mods take a moment and reconsider the farming rule (not that it should be completely scrapped but some definitions might need to be looked at) and the effects of the site enforced restrictions on newbies.
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Re: Owenator ... I dont believe in improbable coincidence

Postby Kotaro on Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:18 pm

HardAttack, your style of arguing by starting and telling everyone to grow up is pretty boring and ineffective, especially when you don't know what you're talking about.

army of nobunaga doesn't report because he believes there is cheating, he posts because he's a sore loser, simple as that.


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kotoro if you are ever anything other than a flippint forum pissant troll, ill be damned that day son.


and ps
army of nubububuag, i can purposely mispell names too.

It'd be nice if you reported someone if you had proof, and not just everytime you lose and have a temper tantrum.
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Re: Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

Postby maimerofmen on Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:25 pm

Iwonagain, is on my list of players who need to be watched or avoided. Seems like this is one of those guys who has nothing better to do all day than to cheat at a game with no money incentive. I do not believe in coincidences and I do not believe what this guys is pushing in his games.
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Re: Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

Postby Mr_Adams on Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:39 pm

army of nobunaga wrote:and ps
kotoro if you are ever anything other than a flippint forum pissant troll, ill be damned that day son.


I actualy find this comment rather comical when we consider the fact that Kotaro is a more logical forward thinking individual than nobunaga seems to be.
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Re: Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

Postby IwonAgain on Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:51 pm

OMFG. Maimerofmen, bring this bull shit on. Please have anyone owenator or king achilles or whoever the f*ck moderates this or wants to check my record out. I cant believe you are posting that im cheating people for nothing to gain. YES, please see how often I play. Check who I play - multiple people, higher and lower ranks. Go spend some time getting better and improving your 25% winning record rather than trashing others.

DEAR MODERATOR: Please investigate me. and post reply here when Im clear.

Maimerofmen asked me where I got my "program". My reply, www.howtocheatmaimerofmenoutofconquercl ... egames.com
He obviously has no sense of humor, yet insists that his losing (which is no suprise due to his 25% winning percentage) is due to me cheating and not the fact he sucks.

Awaiting reply and investigation.

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Re: Owenator - I dont believe in improbable coincidence[cleared]

Postby IwonAgain on Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:07 pm

maimerofmen wrote:Iwonagain, is on my list of players who need to be watched or avoided. Seems like this is one of those guys who has nothing better to do all day than to cheat at a game with no money incentive. I do not believe in coincidences and I do not believe what this guys is pushing in his games.


See my other response. You seem to complain alot when you lose (75% btw) and Im not the first person you accuse or cheating, or saying great program youve got, or the program loves you.
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