CC City Mogul [Quenched]

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:40 am

When can we expect the next update?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:28 pm

gimil wrote:When can we expect the next update?

don't know. i keep getting stuck on the graphics.
isometric is down. not possible because of the size issues.

now i'm torn between 3 alternatives

1. top down view where all you can see is rooftops (realistic)
2. top down view where streets and non important terits are normal but shops and subs are like icons. so you can actually see the store front instead of the roof.
3. something else.

i'm inclining towards something else

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:05 am

here's a new update.
V3 (it's actually v5 i think)

anyway i redid all the graphics done a few changes here and there. put the legend at the top and gave it a blueprint aspect.

now what do i have to do to get some stamps?

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:07 am

I'm doing the XML am I?!

Righto!!!

C.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:09 am

yeti_c wrote:I'm doing the XML am I?!

Righto!!!

C.

ugh. i don't think i asked you

will you do it?

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:47 am

DiM wrote:
yeti_c wrote:I'm doing the XML am I?!

Righto!!!

C.

ugh. i don't think i asked you

will you do it?

No worries!!!

C.

PS valid until 2011-02-21 06:01:37 <- Amusing...

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:28 pm

V4
i added terit names. removed the park, and that's about it.

the following terits will start as neutral:
mall - 15
manor - 15
arsonist - 5
subways - 3
shops - 3

each player will start with a home and the rest of the terits will be randomly divided.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:32 pm

move to main?

do i get some stars?

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:35 pm

Ill revieve in a little while for you, but id rather wait for coleman to get you out of here

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:23 pm

what does a map maker do when he's bored and has no feedback? he starts adding eye candy.

so here's version 5 with eye candy

added a few folds and creases to create a 3d aspect to the blueprint

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:36 pm

Oddly enough, I'm not sure I would have wanted to move you pre-eye candy.

As it is... Good luck, I have some other people to move too I believe.

As far as gameplay goes.... I have no clue right now, huge head ache, not from you.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:41 pm

v5.1
moved the sig
made the text scratchier

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:47 pm

Coleman wrote:Oddly enough, I'm not sure I would have wanted to move you pre-eye candy.

As it is... Good luck, I have some other people to move too I believe.

As far as gameplay goes.... I have no clue right now, huge head ache, not from you.

woohoo i got a star.

as for the eye candy look above.
made some nice horizontal folds, added a corner crease, put shadow underneath the map to make it 3d and made the text scratchy. minor things that add to the feeling.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:50 pm

yeti_c, could you start the xml?

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:24 pm

this would be so cool in 3d care to coloberate or whatever the word is?

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:37 pm

DiM wrote:yeti_c, could you start the xml?

I'll do the XML when we get to FF... Busy at the mo!

C.

I GOT SERVED · Post by **I GOT SERVED** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:53 pm

I like the darker shade of blue that was on version 3.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:37 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:this would be so cool in 3d care to coloberate or whatever the word is?

yeah it would but i tried doing that but it doesn't work.
if it is full 3d then some terits will be hard to see cause they'll be in the back. if it is isometric then visibility will be slightly better but it doesn't fit within the size requirements. i already mentioned this problem.

so i was left with 2 options. do a classic top down view where only roofs can be seen or do something different like the current blueprint.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:38 pm

yeti_c wrote:
DiM wrote:yeti_c, could you start the xml?
I'll do the XML when we get to FF... Busy at the mo!

C.

ok

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:41 pm

I GOT SERVED wrote:I like the darker shade of blue that was on version 3.

yeah but the army numbers are hard to spot on that darker shade

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:41 pm

testing army numbers

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:33 pm

DiM wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:this would be so cool in 3d care to coloberate or whatever the word is?
yeah it would but i tried doing that but it doesn't work.
if it is full 3d then some terits will be hard to see cause they'll be in the back. if it is isometric then visibility will be slightly better but it doesn't fit within the size requirements. i already mentioned this problem.

so i was left with 2 options. do a classic top down view where only roofs can be seen or do something different like the current blueprint.

Do it so you can see the roofs at least. GTA 2 style.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:07 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
DiM wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:this would be so cool in 3d care to coloberate or whatever the word is?
yeah it would but i tried doing that but it doesn't work.
if it is full 3d then some terits will be hard to see cause they'll be in the back. if it is isometric then visibility will be slightly better but it doesn't fit within the size requirements. i already mentioned this problem.

so i was left with 2 options. do a classic top down view where only roofs can be seen or do something different like the current blueprint.
Do it so you can see the roofs at least. GTA 2 style.

sorry but gta 2 style is not possible.
gta 2 had a top down view but also had a moving camera and created the feeling of depth by skewing the view a bit.

look here:

because i have a still camera i can't create the depth and i can't make the side of the buildings to be visible like in gta2. the only way to make the sides visible is to tilt the camera at an certain angle. but if i do that, then the back buildings will be masked by the front buildings. not good.
so i decided on an isometric view with diamod shaped terits instead of squares but that makes the map too big. i would need something like 1200 px to add the same number of terits.

and the only solution was a pure 90 degrees top down view but the problem with that is that you can see only the rooftops. nothing else. and to be honest that's very bland. now ask yourself if you have seen any game where the cities are top down view. i haven't. why? because they are ugly. simple red and grey squares spread along some streets. i wouldn't even have had the possibility to realistically add colours to separate continents.

that's why i chose the blue print. it gives me the ability to squeeze so many terits in a tight space and it can also realistically and nicely represent a map

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:20 pm

but, but... I don't like how this looks either

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:28 pm

InkL0sed wrote:but, but... I don't like how this looks either

trust me if 3d would be possible i would do it. i already have wasted a lot of hours creating a 3d prison to the smallest detail like the security displays on the doors or the guns on the people only to have to abandon it. if you can convince lack to modify the game interface i can create a 3d city where you can change the view, zoom in out, etc. until then sorry but this stays.

btw here's what type of 3d i'm talking:

found in my life in prison map thread here