Bill Maher

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:44 pm

Your thoughts?

SolidLuigi · Post by **SolidLuigi** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:16 pm

he can be harsh at times, but at least he speaks from his heart, and he is a pretty intelligent person. I like to listen to him for humor, and for interesting thoughts on current topics. Here's a good one that he is spot-on with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6swysMuHDM
(only a min and a half long, short and sweet haha)

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:15 am

I'm interested in hearing what someone devout thinks of him...just for reference.

OnlyAmbrose · Post by **OnlyAmbrose** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:12 am

Interesting guy... I like some of his politics. On the flip side, I disagree with a lot as well. But the same can be said about a lot of people.

Yeah, he's pretty anti-religious, and I definitely don't like his take on it. The idea that religion prevents people from thinking isn't true. It can be in some cases, but it's a very unfair generalization. I do agree with his views on separation of church and state, however.

I dunno, not much else to say. Mixed feelings I suppose?

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:19 am

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:40 am

Skittles! wrote:Who?

spurgistan · Post by **spurgistan** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:43 am

I don't think he's funny. And I'm his freaking target audience. Pretty much all his punchlines are just "Aaah, President Bush sucks" and the audience laughs. LAaaame.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:13 am

SolidLuigi wrote:he can be harsh at times, but at least he speaks from his heart, and he is a pretty intelligent person. I like to listen to him for humor, and for interesting thoughts on current topics. Here's a good one that he is spot-on with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6swysMuHDM
(only a min and a half long, short and sweet haha)

He makes a good point there, first time I hear about him though.

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:46 am

spurgistan wrote:I don't think he's funny. And I'm his freaking target audience. Pretty much all his punchlines are just "Aaah, President Bush sucks" and the audience laughs. LAaaame.

That's not true at all. Sure he makes fun of Bush plenty, but I'd say that in all honesty it's only around 10% of his jokes.

spurgistan · Post by **spurgistan** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:41 am

InkL0sed wrote:
spurgistan wrote:I don't think he's funny. And I'm his freaking target audience. Pretty much all his punchlines are just "Aaah, President Bush sucks" and the audience laughs. LAaaame.
That's not true at all. Sure he makes fun of Bush plenty, but I'd say that in all honesty it's only around 10% of his jokes.

I've only seen a few of his shows, I don't have whatever network he's on. It just seemed like, in the shows I saw, all his jokes are basically the comic equivalent of lay-ups.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:36 pm

SolidLuigi · Post by **SolidLuigi** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:59 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:Interesting guy... I like some of his politics. On the flip side, I disagree with a lot as well. But the same can be said about a lot of people.

Yeah, he's pretty anti-religious, and I definitely don't like his take on it. The idea that religion prevents people from thinking isn't true. It can be in some cases, but it's a very unfair generalization. I do agree with his views on separation of church and state, however.

I dunno, not much else to say. Mixed feelings I suppose?

Yeah, I agreed the most with the part in the clip about why homosexuality shouldn't be a problem, why people wouldn't fake it. I didn't fully agree with the assessment that religion prevents everyone from thinking. I was raised Roman Catholic, baptized, communion, confirmation, but am no longer practicing, I still believe in some form of God/force, I guess that makes me agnostic? There are many intelligent scholars, scientists, politicians, etc that are also religious.

I do however agree that it does prevent logical thought in a lot of people, people that instead of assessing a situation with their own logic, thoughts, feelings will use what someone else has written or told them. When you make a statement that you thought over, reasoned out, and came up with yourself, when someone attacks it or questions it, you have to answer for it, you are responsible for upholding it. If you make a statement based on someone else or a book then you can just deflect the attack, so if someone questions you you can be like "hey, it's not me, the book says so". I think that is a safety net that people find easy to use instead of having to take responsibility for their own thoughts.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:58 pm

Guy is pretty awesome.

soka · Post by **soka** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:05 pm

we was better on abc before he got kicked off. now he is just trying to show off cause he has more freedom to speak his mind, which isnt always a good thing. because he is now more annoying like a whinning little kid .

Beastly · Post by **Beastly** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:16 pm

He is a funny comedian.

That's it.

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:55 pm

soka wrote:we was better on abc before he got kicked off. now he is just trying to show off cause he has more freedom to speak his mind, which isnt always a good thing. because he is now more annoying like a whinning little kid .

He got kicked off for saying something politically incorrect.

Name of the show? Politically Incorrect.

I think he enjoys being politically incorrect. It's like being a satirist in some ways, trying to shock people into thought.

Dekloren · Post by **Dekloren** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:16 am

He's a fucking joke.

Illuminati scum.

Stymie · Post by **Stymie** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:46 am

I just don't like him.

soka · Post by **soka** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:46 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
soka wrote:we was better on abc before he got kicked off. now he is just trying to show off cause he has more freedom to speak his mind, which isnt always a good thing. because he is now more annoying like a whinning little kid .
He got kicked off for saying something politically incorrect.

Name of the show? Politically Incorrect.

I think he enjoys being politically incorrect. It's like being a satirist in some ways, trying to shock people into thought.

all i said was he was better then. now he is just playing to an audience

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:59 pm

Dekloren wrote:He's a fucking joke.

Illuminati scum.

How do we know you're not Illuminati?

Dekloren · Post by **Dekloren** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:28 am

9/11 was an inside job?

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:17 am

Dekloren wrote:9/11 was an inside job?

Lies! You're only claiming that to cover up your own vested interests. In truth you are an agent of the Illuminati, here to gather a following and oppress the free posters! You're planning to get your followers into every mod position you can, then you will overthrow Twill and lackattack and take over this site for the use of your evil overlords! But we are on to your plans! YOU WILL NOT SUCCEED!!

Dekloren · Post by **Dekloren** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:27 am

Something like that

OnlyAmbrose · Post by **OnlyAmbrose** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:08 pm

SolidLuigi wrote:
OnlyAmbrose wrote:Interesting guy... I like some of his politics. On the flip side, I disagree with a lot as well. But the same can be said about a lot of people.

Yeah, he's pretty anti-religious, and I definitely don't like his take on it. The idea that religion prevents people from thinking isn't true. It can be in some cases, but it's a very unfair generalization. I do agree with his views on separation of church and state, however.

I dunno, not much else to say. Mixed feelings I suppose?
There are many intelligent scholars, scientists, politicians, etc that are also religious.

I do however agree that it does prevent logical thought in a lot of people, people that instead of assessing a situation with their own logic, thoughts, feelings will use what someone else has written or told them. When you make a statement that you thought over, reasoned out, and came up with yourself, when someone attacks it or questions it, you have to answer for it, you are responsible for upholding it. If you make a statement based on someone else or a book then you can just deflect the attack, so if someone questions you you can be like "hey, it's not me, the book says so". I think that is a safety net that people find easy to use instead of having to take responsibility for their own thoughts.

I agree here, but the same can be said for basically anything. People tend to dogmatically accept anything written down, be it history, religion, or Wikipedia.

SolidLuigi · Post by **SolidLuigi** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:33 pm

Touché.

Goes along what I've always thought, "Don't believe anything"