Asylum Mafia Game Thread Staff/Patient Town Players/Ga7 Win!

[Iliad]

Yeah great post Sierra was holding my vote off before but now
vote suika

[lalaland]

Nice job sierra, makes a lot of sense.

vote suika

[william18]

Whats thhh the vv vote count?

[got tonkaed]

The thanks everyone for bandwagoning to make the vote count easier vote count...

Day vote counts
Suika 11 (pmchugh,AD,Mountainlion,LSU,the1exile,clive,icedagger,sheepofdumb,crabnebula,iliad,lalaland)

with 29 alive it takes 15 to lynch...

vote notes...sierra you didnt post in any color whatsoever so i decided not to count your vote.

Also the votes are sort of supposed to be in brown, not red or yellow. Red i can understand but some of those yellowish browns are kind of ugly. Having said that im basically accepting anything that could be misconstrued from brown at the moment.

[william18]

Vote Suika


If SL dies too tonight, then we knnnnnn know he got iii it right.

[lalaland]

Vote Suika


If SL dies too tonight, then we knnnnnn know he got iii it right.

How about if we lynch Suika and suika is scum we know he got it right?

[Suika]

Hmm...lynch-4 doesn't seem too much pressure, on the other hand, I'm the only person being voted on right now and Sierra's vote hasn't been counted yet, which means I'm effectively l-3.
Eh, the bandwagon won't shift any time soon on it's own, and I don't trust anyone enough to leave it so high overnight (I'm off to sleep soon), so I'll roleclaim now. The following is paraphrased from my PM.

I am one of the patients at this facility, however during my time here the staff have been abusive towards me. Consequently, my hold on sanity is somewhat tenuous, especially early on in the day. The physicians on staff (of whom I can identify one right now) can cure me, however the wrong cure will cause me to become ill. I do not know what this entails: I have not been told.
If I act in a suitably insane manner during the day, after the lynch I am given the name of one surviving Physisican. I assume this is a way to offset the problems my early morning insanities can cause, however it is optional. I simply chose to follow it so far.

AD claimed to be suspicious of me, for which I have no response other that to state that I am town, and have no night action. Whatever data you obtained that throws suspicion on me is therefore flawed, a mafia set-up, or a lie. The first option seems most likely at this time (at least to me)

[Suika]

Hmm...lynch-3 doesn't seem too much pressure, on the other hand, I'm the only person being voted on right now and Sierra's vote hasn't been counted yet, which means I'm effectively l-2.
Eh, the bandwagon won't shift any time soon on it's own, and I don't trust anyone enough to leave it so high overnight (I'm off to sleep soon), so I'll roleclaim now. The following is paraphrased from my PM.

I am one of the patients at this facility, however during my time here the staff have been abusive towards me. Consequently, my hold on sanity is somewhat tenuous, especially early on in the day. The physicians on staff (of whom I can identify one right now) can cure me, however the wrong cure will cause me to become ill. I do not know what this entails: I have not been told.
If I act in a suitably insane manner during the day, after the lynch I am given the name of one surviving Physisican. I assume this is a way to offset the problems my early morning insanities can cause, however it is optional. I simply chose to follow it so far.

AD claimed to be suspicious of me, for which I have no response other that to state that I am town, and have no night action. Whatever data you obtained that throws suspicion on me is therefore flawed, a mafia set-up, or a lie. The first option seems most likely at this time (at least to me)

EBWOP

[sheepofdumb]

I'll back off for now to give him a little slack. I want to hear more. He's got my vote but I don't want to see a sudden rush to lynch him until he's explained himself.
Unvote

[william18]

Yeah I agg agree. Thats a pretty goo good claa claim.

Unvote

[Ditocoaf]

Regarding

I guess that unfortunate, one-time use of hyperbole is going to cost me the game, isn't it? I said "any bandwagon" when we were nearing a deadline (that was shortly afterward revoked), and it was important to avoid a no-lynch. Of course I didn't mean any bandwagon, it was a figure of speech. Please re-read that area; the bandwagon against me stopped before kiwi's started, because it became clear that it was just a poor use of language. Re-posting attacks without the defense isn't a very legit way to revive a case against someone you actually suspect; it sounds more like you just want me lynched.

And this whole wicked thing is really taking me by surprise. I only posted in defense of her once, and it was more of a "woah, slow down" thing. I admit I was mostly trying to curb the idea that I was lynch-happy. And I think calling what she posted to Anark a "defense" of the noob list a little bit of a stretch. Of course she knows that anark likes to go after the noobs to start; why would she think that worth defending against? It seems to me she was just being silly, answering "who are they?" with "my multi's".

[pmchugh]

Hmm...lynch-4 doesn't seem too much pressure, on the other hand, I'm the only person being voted on right now and Sierra's vote hasn't been counted yet, which means I'm effectively l-3.
Eh, the bandwagon won't shift any time soon on it's own, and I don't trust anyone enough to leave it so high overnight (I'm off to sleep soon), so I'll roleclaim now. The following is paraphrased from my PM.

I am one of the patients at this facility, however during my time here the staff have been abusive towards me. Consequently, my hold on sanity is somewhat tenuous, especially early on in the day. The physicians on staff (of whom I can identify one right now) can cure me, however the wrong cure will cause me to become ill. I do not know what this entails: I have not been told.
If I act in a suitably insane manner during the day, after the lynch I am given the name of one surviving Physisican. I assume this is a way to offset the problems my early morning insanities can cause, however it is optional. I simply chose to follow it so far.

AD claimed to be suspicious of me, for which I have no response other that to state that I am town, and have no night action. Whatever data you obtained that throws suspicion on me is therefore flawed, a mafia set-up, or a lie. The first option seems most likely at this time (at least to me)

Hmm i believe this however how does this prove that you are town? If the staff have been mean to you doesnt that make you more likely to be scum? I dont know why people are retracting there votes already im not entirely convinced, the para-phrasing i have no doubt as true but couldnt this just be part of the pm the other bit saying you are scum?

[Ditocoaf]

Regarding S_L's long post:

I guess that unfortunate, one-time use of hyperbole is going to cost me the game, isn't it? I said "any bandwagon" when we were nearing a deadline (that was shortly afterward revoked), and it was important to avoid a no-lynch. Of course I didn't mean any bandwagon, it was a figure of speech. Please re-read that area; the bandwagon against me stopped before kiwi's started, because it became clear that it was just a poor use of language. Re-posting attacks without the defense isn't a very legit way to revive a case against someone you actually suspect; it sounds more like you just want me lynched.

And this whole wicked thing is really taking me by surprise. I only posted in defense of her once, and it was more of a "woah, slow down" thing. I admit I was mostly trying to curb the idea that I was lynch-happy. And I think calling what she posted to Anark a "defense" of the noob list a little bit of a stretch. Of course she knows that anark likes to go after the noobs to start; why would she think that worth defending against? It seems to me she was just being silly, answering "who are they?" with "my multi's".

EBWOP

Regarding sukia's claim... being a patient with an ability doesn't show you're town yet. I'd like to hear some better defense, and some explanation about the AD thing. I'm about ready to vote for you.

[lalaland]

I'm going to leave my vote on him for now.... Nobody hammer though!

But AD, you have some explaining to do.
If we lynch him and he turns up town, you know that you will most likely be next.

[Anarkistsdream]

I'm going to leave my vote on him for now.... Nobody hammer though!

But AD, you have some explaining to do.
If we lynch him and he turns up town, you know that you will most likely be next.

Haha...

I said I had a reason, not that it was a good one.

You lynch him due to whatever you find scummy. I was merely indicating MY reasoning for voting him.

[william18]

I'm going to leave my vote on him for now.... Nobody hammer though!

But AD, you have some explaining to do.
If we lynch him and he turns up town, you know that you will most likely be next.

Haha...

I said I had a reason, not that it was a good one.

You lynch him due to whatever you find scummy. I was merely indicating MY reasoning for voting him.

Are yo you indicating thaaaa that your conn connected to Suika? Perhaps yoo your a physian annnn and for ssooo some reason don't wwwww want to give hiii him meds?

[william18]

Anark muuuu must have vaaa valuable info or hh has a gooo good role. We'll seeeeeee what hhh happens.

Vote Suika

[Anarkistsdream]

I'm going to leave my vote on him for now.... Nobody hammer though!

But AD, you have some explaining to do.
If we lynch him and he turns up town, you know that you will most likely be next.

Haha...

I said I had a reason, not that it was a good one.

You lynch him due to whatever you find scummy. I was merely indicating MY reasoning for voting him.

Are yo you indicating thaaaa that your conn connected to Suika? Perhaps yoo your a physian annnn and for ssooo some reason don't wwwww want to give hiii him meds?

I know jack shit about the potions.

I have a second hand piece of info that makes me think that he knows more than he says.

On the other hand, maybe I was given faulty info, as he posted above.

I still think he is scummy, though, given his playing so far.

[Sierra_Leon]

Suika's roleclaim makes sense, but as has been pointed out does not prove him town. I'd appreciate it if he isn't quicklynched though, as I'm not completely satisfied with Ditocoaf's response. I'll unvote in the same colour I voted just in case (sorry tonka, the colour thingy slipped my mind).

Regarding

I guess that unfortunate, one-time use of hyperbole is going to cost me the game, isn't it? I said "any bandwagon" when we were nearing a deadline (that was shortly afterward revoked), and it was important to avoid a no-lynch. Of course I didn't mean any bandwagon, it was a figure of speech. Please re-read that area; the bandwagon against me stopped before kiwi's started, because it became clear that it was just a poor use of language. Re-posting attacks without the defense isn't a very legit way to revive a case against someone you actually suspect; it sounds more like you just want me lynched.

And this whole wicked thing is really taking me by surprise. I only posted in defense of her once, and it was more of a "woah, slow down" thing. I admit I was mostly trying to curb the idea that I was lynch-happy. And I think calling what she posted to Anark a "defense" of the noob list a little bit of a stretch. Of course she knows that anark likes to go after the noobs to start; why would she think that worth defending against? It seems to me she was just being silly, answering "who are they?" with "my multi's".

So you said you only agreed to bandwagon because we were nearing a deadline, eh? Let's check back to see when you commented on the wicked bandwagon then... This is what (and when) the mod said about the deadline when asked:

its about 15 hours from now.

A bit later, he even commented:

note...i dont think there really needs to be an extension as gameplay did slow a bit and i dont think a deadline will really hurt.

If you look back at pages 34-36, you'll see everyone was very concerned with the deadline and talk of a possible no-lynch was already going round.
Yet somehow (it's still a mystery to me how this was pulled off) a bandwagon on wicked gets going on time and reaches the point where wicked is at 9 votes with 18 needed to lynch. That's where you (Ditocoaf) get online. (this is before wicked responds)

Personally, I don't see Wicked as having anything suspicious in the least about her at this point in the game. I'd jump on this bandwagon because of the deadline, but there are still others that haven't been resolved that still have more votes on them.

Kiwiwater still seems suspicious to me--he essentially claimed cop, but decided to take / with him at the same time... having claimed cop, if the mafia doesn't kill him tonight, then we'll know he's one of them. Who claims cop when there isn't even half enough people to lynch yet?

My vote stays.

But most importantly-- we need a lynch. How much time is left?

Only 12 hours left when you decide we need a lynch - which is correct - but instead of voting wicked who had 9 votes, you keep your vote on kiwi who had only 4 or 5 votes. Funny thing is too, I can't find your vote in there anywhere; I don't think you even had your vote on anyone during that time.

Other points you made that I don't agree on is where you said the bandwagon on you stopped before kiwi's started. I didn't look that up just now, but I seem to recall yours was still running. I'll check again if you insist. Also, what you said about wicked's post defending 'her multies' could indeed be a reach, but that might just be why wicked took the risk of posting it. She could always claim it was a joke. Meanwhile, it served its purpose because Nark stopped hasseling you.

The most important argument against you remains you contradicting yourself in your 'bandwagon when nearing deadline' reasoning. When the kiwi bandwagon started or whether wicked was just trying to be funny diminishes nothing from that fact. As I stated earlier, I personally thought the evidence against you was better than that against Suika. I felt it was necessary for Suika to claim though. Now that I've seen the claim, I'm still not sure Suika's town, but the role makes enough sense for me to let it rest for now. Congratulations, you are my new number one suspect!

Vote Ditocoaf (I think this is brown, kinda hard to tell with the new colour options...)

[Sierra_Leon]

Don't lose your mind
Or you'll only find
nothing but sadness
in this house full of madness

This is not so much a curse
I just enjoy writing a verse
It's fun posting in rhyme
You should try it some time

[sheepofdumb]

Hmm...lynch-3 doesn't seem too much pressure, on the other hand, I'm the only person being voted on right now and Sierra's vote hasn't been counted yet, which means I'm effectively l-2.
Eh, the bandwagon won't shift any time soon on it's own, and I don't trust anyone enough to leave it so high overnight (I'm off to sleep soon), so I'll roleclaim now. The following is paraphrased from my PM.

I am one of the patients at this facility, however during my time here the staff have been abusive towards me. Consequently, my hold on sanity is somewhat tenuous, especially early on in the day. The physicians on staff (of whom I can identify one right now) can cure me, however the wrong cure will cause me to become ill. I do not know what this entails: I have not been told.
If I act in a suitably insane manner during the day, after the lynch I am given the name of one surviving Physisican. I assume this is a way to offset the problems my early morning insanities can cause, however it is optional. I simply chose to follow it so far.

AD claimed to be suspicious of me, for which I have no response other that to state that I am town, and have no night action. Whatever data you obtained that throws suspicion on me is therefore flawed, a mafia set-up, or a lie. The first option seems most likely at this time (at least to me)

I need suika to live for a few days longer. This is important, trust me.

Also:

my hold on sanity is somewhat tenuous

I think everyone who isn't scum or is immune to being recruited has a tenuous grasp on their sanity. This includes some staff.

[sheepofdumb]

Oh also Vote: Dito. He sticks out like a sore thumb as scum to me. I didn't want him dead day 1 but it's day 2 now. He's fair game now.

[Ditocoaf]

The most important argument against you remains you contradicting yourself in your 'bandwagon when nearing deadline' reasoning. When the kiwi bandwagon started or whether wicked was just trying to be funny diminishes nothing from that fact. As I stated earlier, I personally thought the evidence against you was better than that against Suika. I felt it was necessary for Suika to claim though. Now that I've seen the claim, I'm still not sure Suika's town, but the role makes enough sense for me to let it rest for now. Congratulations, you are my new number one suspect!

Vote Ditocoaf (I think this is brown, kinda hard to tell with the new colour options...)

When I expressed a desire to accomplish any lynch before deadline, I was bandwagoned for it. I corrected myself, pointing out that "any" was used as hyperbole, and I would only vote when I actually thought someone was scum. Not having very much evidence to vote Wicked (admittedly because I hadn't re-read the thread recently), I decided not to vote for her, and stated so in passing to emphasize my defense. I see now I used the wrong bandwagon to make my point with. I never was inconsistent with my "bandwagon nearing deadline" reasoning; I stated that we needed to get moving, and people took that to mean that I would join a bandwagon without being convinced of guilt--it didn't mean that, and never did. If I had read through the 60 pages and found Wicked looking scummy, I would have voted for her, but I was online during lunch at school, and didn't have the time.

I don't know what your problem is, SL, but these old incidents (i.e., one post that I used "any" innapropriately") have already been discussed at length to my benefit, which you're conveniently choosing to ignore, and there haven't been new occurrences since then that I can see, that shed more bad light on me.

I realize that there are only two votes on me atm, but to prevent myself being lynched overnight (RL night), I'm going to say everything I might have to to prevent my being lynched. My role is an insane paranoid patient; I have the power to follow someone at night and see where they went, but not what they did or who they are. Last night I chose Anark; he "went to visit Sukia." I figured that if Sukia died in the morning, then he'd be obvious scum, but that's not what happened, so it appears they may work together. Alternatively, he may have investigated him in some way.
Hopefully the above information will help confirm my claim. I realize this doesn't necessarily prove I'm town, but it's all I can do. Now all I can do is hope I'm not lynched when I come back tomorrow... well, actually, I'm still around for a little bit more to answer questions.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Dito you idiot, you have now just exposed AD as some kind of investigative role (evidently) by stating that under no real reason. AD wouldn't be a regular doctor because there are many better targets for him to go after than to target a noob that wouldn't get scum's attention. If there are any regular doctor type roles out there, may I suggest him as a possible target to be protected. He is very helpful to pro-town and is worth keeping around.

[Ditocoaf]

Dito you idiot, you have now just exposed AD as some kind of investigative role (evidently) by stating that under no real reason. AD wouldn't be a regular doctor because there are many better targets for him to go after than to target a noob that wouldn't get scum's attention. If there are any regular doctor type roles out there, may I suggest him as a possible target to be protected. He is very helpful to pro-town and is worth keeping around.

LSU you idiot, I didn't expose AD as anything. All I know is that he visited Sukia last night. If you know anything else, then you're the one who just exposed it; if not, you're looking like you're protecting fellow scum.