Egypt: Lower [Quenched]

[gimil]

get out of here

[cairnswk]

The occasional darker color would be good, I agree.

How these colours now?

[cairnswk]

I love this map, and I'm super impressed with what you can accomplish in 2 weeks of map-making.

Question: I'm guessing the stars are the capitals, so is there some bonus related to them?

Minor graphic detail: The line from Am Khent (territory name) to the territory should be rotated clockwise a bit. It appears (at least at first glance) to point to the dow. It would be more clear if it pointed toward the army circle.

Best,
Laci

Laci Mae...thanks for your post.
The stars are indeed capitals, but in those days according to research, each of these districts had their own capital. I have, for the purposes of this map created continents based on 7 seven of these more well known capitals. As such, there is NO BONUS attached to the capitals.
It has been a long time since i have created a map this simple, and I hope it is well-received. 26 terts, that's it.
As for the line, i will adjust that.

[cairnswk]

get out of here

Thanks Gimil, that was fast !!!

[mibi]

The occasional darker color would be good, I agree.

How these colours now?

I was thinking along these lines.



but its your map

[cairnswk]

I was thinking along these lines.



but its your map

Thanks mibi, but may i ask why you chose the yellows and mustards.
I was going after the darker look as requested above.

[Ogrecrusher]

I agree with the yellows. They feel more deserty.

[cairnswk]

I agree with the yellows. They feel more deserty.

Does:

yellow for desert
blue for annual floods
green for fertility

make any sense?

I guess one could come up with all sorts of excuses for colours.

I don't think that the Nile Delta would necessarily be a region where yellow was the main colour. Because of the plentifulness of water and the annual flooding, i would , have thought greens and blue might be more appropriate.

The yellow might be more appropriate for the next map already started in Upper Egypt where apart from the annual floods, fertility was limited to river plains and the areas were surrounded by lots of sandstone hills and deserts.

[Blitzaholic]

The occasional darker color would be good, I agree.

How these colours now?

much better i think

[TaCktiX]

I like the new colors a good bit. More appropriate to the Nile delta.

[Kaplowitz]

Cairns its true that the Nile Delta would make more sense to have the colors that you are using, but unfortunately when most people hear Egypt, they think of sand, pyramids, and pharaohs.

Either way if you are using cool colors, i think you should use more of a watery texture. The sandy texture would go better with warm colors, as they remind people of sand and deserts.

[mibi]

In reality, its a bit of both sand and fertile land, in stark contrast.



I just don't know where all the blues and purples came from, I would love to see more realistic greens, and beiges.

[cairnswk]

In reality, its a bit of both sand and fertile land, in stark contrast.
I just don't know where all the blues and purples came from, I would love to see more realistic greens, and beiges.

Yes i agree it's a bit of both in stark contrast, however i am not making this as a representation of an overhead landscape shot from some satellite. You asked for the colours of Egypt, ad a darker less watery repsentation. These are colours that were used in ancient times.

The following colours are - continent, and there is only blue to reprensent the river and sea and one continent of purpple.

Alexandria = Karchi
Buto = red
Mendes = Yellow
Tanis = Green
Bubastic = Brown
Memphis = sandy orange
Sile = Purple.

There is one purple and two blues

All continent colours are treated with 75 Average 50% Plasture texture and a Gaussian Blur of 0.5%

So....I have replaced the SILE purple with a darkish brown, but that is all i am prepared to change.
I prefer to use the colours as are in the version below Version 9.

i am planning that Upper Egypt will have more yellows etc for the desert, and the new kingdon map will be colours of blacks, and golds and browns.

[Ogrecrusher]

Either way it looks beautiful to me.
Nice work!

[Unit_2]

Take the texture off the Syphix, because it looks like a part of the map.

[cairnswk]

Take the texture off the Syphix, because it looks like a part of the map.

it already has a plaster texture applied to it.

Now have you updated the development atlas yet...
Battle of Gazala has been quenched
Rail Euirope is in Final Forge
and Lower Egypt is in Map Foundry

none of these presently exist in their right categories.

[Kaplowitz]

Upper Egypt is next?

[cairnswk]

Upper Egypt is next?

yes it is already started on my computer here

[benny profane]

i very much like the way this is progressing, colors included.
my only suggestion is this:
maybe you'll consider varying the texture between the legend, land, and water?
the uniformity certainly doesn't ruin the map, but the rivers and lakes are the only things that stand out as distinct.
if you're going to distinguish the rivers and lakes, some further variation may help overall.

[cairnswk]

i very much like the way this is progressing, colors included.
my only suggestion is this:
maybe you'll consider varying the texture between the legend, land, and water?
the uniformity certainly doesn't ruin the map, but the rivers and lakes are the only things that stand out as distinct.
if you're going to distinguish the rivers and lakes, some further variation may help overall.

ok. taken on board, benny, i'll see what i can do

[cairnswk]

any further comments before i work on this map this weekend???

[Incandenza]

It's quite a nice-looking map. Should be entertaining to play on.

A couple small visual concerns:
could the Am-Khent terit name be moved closer to its army circle? I think you might be asking for trouble by having the per-sopdu name closer to the am-khent circle than the am-khent name is.
Also, the tjeb-nut-jek border with khasu doesn't stand out very well compared to the other borders. Perhaps the border and the khasu bits (name, circle, star) could be moved up a bit to give the t-n-j terit name and the northern border a bit of breathing room.

[cairnswk]

It's quite a nice-looking map. Should be entertaining to play on.

A couple small visual concerns:
could the Am-Khent terit name be moved closer to its army circle? I think you might be asking for trouble by having the per-sopdu name closer to the am-khent circle than the am-khent name is.
Also, the tjeb-nut-jek border with khasu doesn't stand out very well compared to the other borders. Perhaps the border and the khasu bits (name, circle, star) could be moved up a bit to give the t-n-j terit name and the northern border a bit of breathing room.

uh got you incandenza....see what i can come up with.

[snufkin]

so my guess is that this is 10-15 % of Greek Egypt?
What century or centuries is it, and will upper egypt be from the same time?

looks pretty good!

[cairnswk]

so my guess is that this is 10-15 % of Greek Egypt?
What century or centuries is it, and will upper egypt be from the same time?

looks pretty good!

Thanks snufkin for your question.
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/nomes.html
Please refer to reference material link above.

It seems that "nomes" were more prominent in upper egypt than lower egypt. but i would say that this is across a spectrum of periods. I would not want to be too specific about making the map on a time period, I am more interested in capturing the flavour of the three kingdoms for this what will become a trilogy, and will link in with the Valley of the Kings map.

The reference site does provide the map reference for upper egypt, however, the new kingdom will be based on what we called Sudan now, where most of the gold for egypt appears to have been sourced.

I will not be adding the invasions by the assyrians, romans, hitites etc as i wish these maps to be very uncomplicated even though i know that is the antithesis of what the entire ancient egyptian civilization was about.

glad to hear you like the map.