trapyoung wrote:FabledIntegral wrote:
1. However showing proof of defeating of 'x' is basically offering incentives to... what? Sabotage the game. Just because you were able to carefully choose your words doesn't mean they won't have the exact same outcome.
2. I don't care what the other player did - what we are addressing is what your clan's response is. He could have grossly abused multiple CC rules, had multi accounts, etc. I'm merely commenting that I agree with the topic starter on his points that what your clan is doing is quite unsportsmanlike.
3. Assuming the second paragraph was also directed towards me, once again, I never said you guys were breaking any rules. It just merely seems like you're complaining about his etiquette, which to me seems somewhat hypocritical.
4. I believe your clan has displayed a complete and total show of arrogance in this thread. You've basically come in preaching about how awesome your clan is, about how anyone who could possibly think otherwise fails to see the bigger picture, etc. Or at least that's what I've come to gain from this thread.
5. I'm pretty sure I've already seen a mod post, yet not in defense of your clan. Once again returning to the arrogance issue... I doubt we'll get "shut up." Whatever their ruling is concerning actual CC rules, it doesn't take away from the fact your clan has made themselves sound like pompous ........
1. how do you sabatogue a 1v1?
2. this is ridiculous, let rampant abuse run wild?
3. wasn't directed at you, it was at lovo - but, the 2nd paragraph wasnt about etiquette at all, it was a retort to the accusation of gross abuse & secret alliances
4. yea our clan is awesome, you caught me. rainbows & unicorns dominate.
5. mod did post but he basically flamed me calling me dumb, he was pretty accurate too.
if we sound like pompous .....'s then ignore us, all of you complaining about how we act & play haven't played us. ive never played hulmey or the OP, i've played you once and you didnt seem to have an issues w/ me in game. you have a problem w/ how i act in the forum is one thing, but YOU or ANYONE ELSE
still havent shown where myself or any other drs member abused the rules or game in any game. before you jump to the defense of some kid maybe you should examine the facts & look big picture. and maybe before you condemn a group you judge every individual independently. it is ridiculous to assign the qualities of the whole to the individual or vice versa and it's something most of you have yet to realize
1. You don't sabotage 1v1's. I don't recall the initial statement, which is what I'm referring to, specifying it had to be 1v1's. I also recall it granting access to *any* member, thus giving the impression your clan was referring to all gametypes.
2. It's basically the same typical argument as "are you willing to stoop to their level," or even "are you willing to even stoop down at all?" Apparently your answer is yes. And if you are willing to do so, which is fine, just expect to be criticized for the actions, just as you are criticizing this player for his own abuses (which I never said I approved of either, I'm merely posting in these forums giving my opinion on a matter).
3. Was a little confused on how you jumped on who you were addressing - merely miscommunication.
4. Yet the arrogance continues. Not with the sarcasm, but with the point that you refuse to address the point (unless you were being serious in the fact that you are honestly simply trying to display a supremist view that everyone else *is* actually stupid, but I don't think that was the intention).
5. erm?
I haven't ignored any of you because you haven't done anything to constitute it by my means (and of course, that's all that's necessary to be on anyone's foe list). I'm merely at a disagreement with your methods/points of view, and am voicing my opinion about it, just as you've done in this thread, and did with your original message to all to eliminate the guy. Whether or not I had issues with you ingame is irrelevant - apparently no vendetta was held between either or us (and I still find none to exist now...). I'm only analyzing this specific incident, not the general picture, not how you generally act, etc. I'm not even defending this "random kid," I'm criticizing your clan's policy.
Concerning judging individuals vs clans, you are highly ignorant to tell me I don't know better of the situation. Each individual member represents the clan he/she plays under. The acceptance of a member into the clan shows that the clan approves of that person's qualities and personality, not just skill. If a clan's only criteria is high ranks, for example, it shows that the only thing they care about is points, and personality is not a factor.
How would I know this? I have been in numerous clans before, I have started many clans myself, and was a master-admin on the site clanwars.cc for an extended duration (bet King Achilles couldn't even fathom me as being an unbiased, calm admin). I know enough about moderating clans and judging them. If you asked me to list the various number of clans I've been in over the years of gaming, I could list 20+. Not necessarily clan hopping, merely over time. And yes, they were highly competitive clans. In one RTS I played, I was at one point ranked the top player (although I must admit the pool of players to pick from was quite dismal), and clan invitations constantly came at me left and right. I have avoided clans here, even after being invited, due to the drama they cause, and to the fact that I lash out a lot easier at people I don't know (and on this site since you encounter a lot of people you don't know, I'd be more likely to ruin the rep of whichever clan I join).
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/up ... 616707.jpgYes I played competitively

, and yes I get the bigger picture.