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XKCD [vacationed]

Postby a.sub on Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:51 pm

IMPORTANT NOTE: the most updated version of the map is at the bottom of this post.

hello all i have just sent an email to randall asking for permission to use his comic as a map, but i also want to see the public responce to it. the comic i want to use is here
http://xkcd.com/256/
-Adith
UPDATE:W00t i got permission from teh XKCD website, now i need someone with a poster of that comic to some how send me pics of the large image so we can move to drafting.
UPDATE:
i have completely scrapped my first try and started from scratch, complaining welcome!
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UPDATE:
k so what i have done here is i now have a list of all the countries, i have added numbers to places with no name or names too small to read. i also added the Ocean of Subculture.
Normal Countries
AOL
Broadcaster
classmates.com
Cyworld
Deviant Art
Digg
Facebook
Faciparty
Flickr
Friendster
Irc Isles 1
Irc Isles 2
Irc Isles 3
Last.fm
LJ
Myspace 1
Myspace 2
Orkut
Pizco
Reunion.com
Second Life/Lineage
SPAAARTA
The Blogipelago 1
The Blogipelago 2
The Blogipelago 3
The Blogipelago 4
Wikipedia
Windows live
WoW/Runescape
Xanga
Yahoo

List of Bodies of water that reset to a neutral after each turn.
Bay of Angst
Gulf of Youtube
Irc Isles Water
Noob Sea
Ocean of Subculture
Sea of Culture
Sea of Memes
The Blogipelago Water

32 countries and 8 bodies of water that totals to 40 places in total.
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UPDATE:


I created the borders to the bonus in the areas where they touch
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i reduced the opacity of the army circles.
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I made the rules on the map including bonuses and how much the seas reset to.
LARGE
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SMALL
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UPDATE:
So what i have done is i made the routes and the ships (army circles for the seas) more cartoony and i removed a BUNCH of islands including a lot of the wikipedia islands. i also removed the last remaining stain of bonus borders from the map.


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Re: XKCD

Postby Mjinga on Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:11 pm

If you get the permission, that would be awesome. I love XKCD.
Reputation cleared. :) Never let it be said that Team CC don't investigate fairly.
Although they take bloody forever to do it...
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Re: XKCD

Postby ZeakCytho on Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:51 pm

While I love xkcd and that map (I have the poster of it about five feet from me right now), I don't think it would make a very good CC map.
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Re: XKCD

Postby InkL0sed on Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:52 pm

I disagree, I think that could be an amazing CC map.

Another good xkcd map would be the map of the Internet: http://xkcd.com/195/
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby a.sub on Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:24 pm

W00t i got permission from teh XKCD website, now i need someone with a poster of that comic to some how send me pics of the large image so we can move to drafting.
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby InkL0sed on Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:32 pm

This what you mean?
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby mibi on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:08 pm

I dunno... I think there are some things that are best left alone.

Like ice cream pizza.
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby ZeakCytho on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:11 pm

mibi wrote:I dunno... I think there are some things that are best left alone.

Like ice cream pizza.


My opinion exactly. How will the gameplay for this work? Please don't take a masterpiece like this and try to force it to be something it's not. Making this map into a CC map is like fitting a square peg in a round hole.
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby wcaclimbing on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:11 pm

wont the names for each territory be copyright?
Even though you got permission from XKCD, I think you'd still have to ask each indavidual company if you could include their name in the map.

...or maybe I am wrong, I'm not sure.
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby mibi on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:54 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:wont the names for each territory be copyright?
Even though you got permission from XKCD, I think you'd still have to ask each indavidual company if you could include their name in the map.

...or maybe I am wrong, I'm not sure.



Your wrong.
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby wcaclimbing on Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:13 pm

mibi wrote:Your wrong.


Aww... o well.
Good luck with the map. It'll be interesting to see how you work out the gameplay on this one.
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby a.sub on Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:16 pm

InkL0sed wrote:This what you mean?
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thats good and all but i need a bigger one for all the small islands and crap that are hard enough to see as is, let alone put a giant number on em
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby whitestazn88 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:22 pm

you'll probably have to ask myspace, facebook, etc too right?
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby a.sub on Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:07 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:you'll probably have to ask myspace, facebook, etc too right?

i actually dont know :S XKCD didnt have to so i doubt we have to
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby a.sub on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:14 pm

hey guys i just tried to make a map out of it but im afraid i cant because i dont see places to put the circles for the number of armies (im sure there is a technical term for it)
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:21 am

army circles are what they're called i believe...
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Re: XKCD [permission recieved!!!]

Postby a.sub on Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:45 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:army circles are what they're called i believe...

thx, i nvr knew that
now i just need a big pic of it
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Re: XKCD [Needs a LARGE picture of the 5 foot map]

Postby edbeard on Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:13 pm

max size you can use for the small CC map image is 630x600 so you have to fit it into that. if you can't then there's no point working on the map.
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Re: XKCD [Needs a LARGE picture of the 5 foot map]

Postby a.sub on Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:20 pm

edbeard wrote:max size you can use for the small CC map image is 630x600 so you have to fit it into that. if you can't then there's no point working on the map.

i didnt know that, thx that actually changes my opinion on the plausibility of it
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Re: XKCD [Needs a LARGE picture of the 5 foot map]

Postby Avaris on Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:39 pm

Hmm...

First off, I've never contributed to a map in any way before, so ignore my ramblings if you want. However, I've been having a think about this map, and though it seems difficult I figure it could perhaps work. Thing is, it would need to be largely redrawn, and that is potentially alot of work.

I figure that the way to do it would be to first divide it up into reasonable countries, then try to put the army circles on, rather than simply try to put the circles on straight off. In some cases smaller countries will need combining, but this is nothing new for CC maps.

After a bit of messing around, this is what I came up with. Its a mess I know, but I've tried to show where each region represents (black lines) alongside how they connect to each other (red lines). At some point I'll make a diagram that hasn't got the map behind so I can see how all the nodes fit together properly (I suspect there are currently a load of dead ends... whether this is good or bad is unknown). The basic idea behind this was to copy the Great Lakes a bit, in that the seas are largely seperate from the land, with a few connections between them.

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Oh, and sorry if I'm stepping on your toes here a.sub, its just the easiest way to explain what I mean is to actually show you.
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Re: XKCD [Needs a LARGE picture of the 5 foot map]

Postby a.sub on Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:50 pm

Avaris wrote:Hmm...

First off, I've never contributed to a map in any way before, so ignore my ramblings if you want. However, I've been having a think about this map, and though it seems difficult I figure it could perhaps work. Thing is, it would need to be largely redrawn, and that is potentially alot of work.

I figure that the way to do it would be to first divide it up into reasonable countries, then try to put the army circles on, rather than simply try to put the circles on straight off. In some cases smaller countries will need combining, but this is nothing new for CC maps.

After a bit of messing around, this is what I came up with. Its a mess I know, but I've tried to show where each region represents (black lines) alongside how they connect to each other (red lines). At some point I'll make a diagram that hasn't got the map behind so I can see how all the nodes fit together properly (I suspect there are currently a load of dead ends... whether this is good or bad is unknown). The basic idea behind this was to copy the Great Lakes a bit, in that the seas are largely seperate from the land, with a few connections between them.

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Oh, and sorry if I'm stepping on your toes here a.sub, its just the easiest way to explain what I mean is to actually show you.



actually i think ur map is brilliant, but what i am going to do is change it so that u cant own the seas but you can cross them via trade routes.
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Re: XKCD [Needs a LARGE picture of the 5 foot map]

Postby SuicidalSnowman on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:13 pm

Although I have recently started reading these comics, and am enjoying them, this one is showing its age...
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Re: XKCD [Needs a LARGE picture of the 5 foot map]

Postby a.sub on Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:00 pm

alright using most of Avaris's ideas i have the following.
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the red circles are for oceans, after every round the reset to a neutral 3, because you can only cross them
the top right XKCD island, can attack and be attacked by everything including seas, it also gives a relatively large bonus. i have no clue on the bonus system right now.
criticisms? (c'mon u have to have something to bitch about :D )
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Re: XKCD [DRAFTED]

Postby RjBeals on Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:03 pm

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Re: XKCD [DRAFTED]

Postby Kaplowitz on Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:05 pm

They let u use their idea, not their map. YOu cant just draw lines and put some circles on it--you have to remake the whole thing.
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