TOP PLAYERS OVERRATED!!

[porkenbeans]

Fab. wrote -
You're still too DENSE to understand what I just said. Noob Farmer/Point Hoarder doesn't mean ANYTHING. What matters is the number. You can be an equalitarian and have 1000 points, and all it meant is that you played other people still at 1000. Thus it means jack - something you apparently can't comprehend because you didn't address my point.

Here's an example. Completely hypothetical.

King_Herpes permanent rank has always been 5000. Just for the sake of this situation let's say he started off at 5000. Let's say he will ONLY play people ranked at 2500. Let's say he always wins 4 games and loses 1 right after winning those 4. Thus his score would go up to 5040, then the loss would set him back to 5000. He is in a permanent equilibrium.

Now you have a rank of 2500 and only play other people ranked 2500. You win one game then always lose the game directly after, thus you gain 20 points and lose it right after. You are also in a perfect never ending equilibrium.

Now according to map rank, you are an equalitarian and he is a noob farmer. Your relative rank is 1.00 and his is .500. Who is the better player? Anyone with any brains could analyze the situation and figure out that the person that wins 4 games and loses 1 is superior to the person that plays the same skill level and wins 1 loses 1.

The reason I said map rank's relative rank was flawed, which it IS, is because it can't possibly process when your ascension in rank happened. It just gives out facts about your overall games. Thus if I started a new account, was at 1000 points, played 1000 games, lost EVERY single game to a brigadier and had 1 point total then realized "well even though I can't beat this brig, I'm better than sergeants and stuff." This player with 1 point begins to farm other people. He gets good at it, and wins 100% of his games, and on his way up most of the players still have 5x his score. So he continues farming, and eventually he gets so good at farming he reaches the score of 5000. What happens? Does his relative rank say noob farmer? NO. It shows him as playing people ranked like 2890390x his score. It shows him as having possibly the BEST relative rank on this site. Even if it only included wins, you could still apply the same concept of a person who played at equilibrium vs cadets when he was a cook by winning maybe 1/3 of his games, then somehow got good enough to farm.

Thus don't pull out random statistics like you are trying to claim your equalitarian actually means something, when it merely shows you STILL PLAY LESSER RANKS THAN KING_HERPES.[/quote]

I wrote -
Please read the post before you respond to it. You may find that I am agreeing with you on some of your issues. Please re-read my last post, I clearly said that Your average map rank only gives you information. It does not tell you who is the best player. It does tell you if a player is playing most of their games against lower or higher ranked players. If you were to look at two capt. with similar scores, and one had a map rank of Noob Farmer, and the other had Glad. Tell me from that info., who is the better risk player ? Both have the same score, but one plays against lower, and one plays against higher ranks. Like I said before, MAP RANK IS A TOOL. It is NOT the leaderboard.
It does allow you to go through the leaderboard and rate players by not only their rank.

[porkenbeans]

Fab. wrote -
You're still too DENSE to understand what I just said. Noob Farmer/Point Hoarder doesn't mean ANYTHING. What matters is the number. You can be an equalitarian and have 1000 points, and all it meant is that you played other people still at 1000. Thus it means jack - something you apparently can't comprehend because you didn't address my point.

Here's an example. Completely hypothetical.

King_Herpes permanent rank has always been 5000. Just for the sake of this situation let's say he started off at 5000. Let's say he will ONLY play people ranked at 2500. Let's say he always wins 4 games and loses 1 right after winning those 4. Thus his score would go up to 5040, then the loss would set him back to 5000. He is in a permanent equilibrium.

Now you have a rank of 2500 and only play other people ranked 2500. You win one game then always lose the game directly after, thus you gain 20 points and lose it right after. You are also in a perfect never ending equilibrium.

Now according to map rank, you are an equalitarian and he is a noob farmer. Your relative rank is 1.00 and his is .500. Who is the better player? Anyone with any brains could analyze the situation and figure out that the person that wins 4 games and loses 1 is superior to the person that plays the same skill level and wins 1 loses 1.

The reason I said map rank's relative rank was flawed, which it IS, is because it can't possibly process when your ascension in rank happened. It just gives out facts about your overall games. Thus if I started a new account, was at 1000 points, played 1000 games, lost EVERY single game to a brigadier and had 1 point total then realized "well even though I can't beat this brig, I'm better than sergeants and stuff." This player with 1 point begins to farm other people. He gets good at it, and wins 100% of his games, and on his way up most of the players still have 5x his score. So he continues farming, and eventually he gets so good at farming he reaches the score of 5000. What happens? Does his relative rank say noob farmer? NO. It shows him as playing people ranked like 2890390x his score. It shows him as having possibly the BEST relative rank on this site. Even if it only included wins, you could still apply the same concept of a person who played at equilibrium vs cadets when he was a cook by winning maybe 1/3 of his games, then somehow got good enough to farm.

Thus don't pull out random statistics like you are trying to claim your equalitarian actually means something, when it merely shows you STILL PLAY LESSER RANKS THAN KING_HERPES.

I wrote -
Please read the post before you respond to it. You may find that I am agreeing with you on some of your issues. Please re-read my last post, I clearly said that Your average map rank only gives you information. It does not tell you who is the best player. It does tell you if a player is playing most of their games against lower or higher ranked players. If you were to look at two capt. with similar scores, and one had a map rank of Noob Farmer, and the other had Glad. Tell me from that info., who is the better risk player ? Both have the same score, but one plays against lower, and one plays against higher ranks. Like I said before, MAP RANK IS A TOOL. It is NOT the leaderboard.
It does allow you to go through the leaderboard and rate players by not only their points.[/quote]For shits and giggles I just ran a map rank on the top 20 on the Leaderboard.
Only 2 of them are EQ.
Seulessliathan
Fruitcake
These two in my opinion, from studying the stats., are most likely the best players, at this moment in time.
The other 18 would need to play a few, or some, may need to play a lot of games with top ranks, to bring their map rank up to an EQ.
Some may only have to bring up their score on a few maps, because they only played it once, and the opponent was low rank. Win or loose, his map rank for that map is "Noob". So, it would only take a game or two to bring that m.r up to an EQ.
So, I have no doubt that a few of those other 18, could bring their M.R up to EQ. But the rest are actually inferior players and Multi-cheats'.
Instead of trying to raise their map scores, A lot of them are blasting the map rank tool.
Killing the messenger will not fix your problem.
I would suggest that you simply try to raise your map scores. If you know how to play, you should not have too much trouble. Look at Seulessliathan and Fruitcake. If however you cant hang with the big boys, Then you should just accept your true place on the leaderboard.

[demonfork]

it's obvious King_Herpes sucks ..... THOTA figured they would show him how bad

see, all you had to do was ask and we would have shown you .... it's fun taking his points to put our pal back in the number 1 spot ... and we'll keep doing it till he starts making them private and puts us all on ignore ... we'll keep you posted on that one ... so far it looks like that is what is happening .... even more obvious

too funny .... so there is your proof ..... all in black and white

Get a clue guy, you are fighting an imaginary battle. The King has said many times that after cc unjustly banned him from playing with his brother (one of the main reasons why he joined the site, to spend time with his brother) his goal was to EXPLOIT the site, to get to the top by ANY LEGAL MEANS NECESSARY!

Just because HOETA assembles it's best players, ambushes and wins a game the The King specifically set up to try and lure unsuspecting noobs, does not mean that The King sucks.

If the goal of The King was to battle HOETA, I guarantee you that the circumstances involving the choice of game, settings as well as teammates would be much different than that of a game set up to farm noobs!

[RiskTycoon]

lol and that would change what?

[Prankcall]

Nothing if you play mostly high ranking private games you stand to maximize/minimize your point won/loss ratio.For you to assume relative rank is the best measuring stick is wrong.

[prismsaber]

fyi team players can easily manipulate their relative rank (and score, for that matter) by partnering or "training" low ranked players yet basically making all their moves for them. I don't mean this in a literal sense but by all intents and purposes the high ranked player tells the low ranked player what to do every turn. I have seen some players (no names needed) partnered with low ranks quite a bit over the past few months. Again, this artificially increases one's relative rank.

[porkenbeans]

fyi team players can easily manipulate their relative rank (and score, for that matter) by partnering or "training" low ranked players yet basically making all their moves for them. I don't mean this in a literal sense but by all intents and purposes the high ranked player tells the low ranked player what to do every turn. I have seen some players (no names needed) partnered with low ranks quite a bit over the past few months. Again, this artificially increases one's relative rank.

Yes I agree, It would prob. be better if they did not average the ranks of a team. Maybe just go with the rank of the highest member from each team.

[demonfork]

fyi team players can easily manipulate their relative rank (and score, for that matter) by partnering or "training" low ranked players yet basically making all their moves for them. I don't mean this in a literal sense but by all intents and purposes the high ranked player tells the low ranked player what to do every turn. I have seen some players (no names needed) partnered with low ranks quite a bit over the past few months. Again, this artificially increases one's relative rank.

so what

[prismsaber]

so what

So don't respond to something if you have nothing to say, idiot. My message was in response to Pork's post a few posts up about a couple of team players with high rr's and I thought I'd save people the trouble of scrolling through another large quote block.

[porkenbeans]

prism I was looking at your stats. It would not be too difficult to raise your score. You have many maps where you only played 1 or 2 games, but because you opponents were low rankers, you are tagged on that particular map as a Noob farmer. You only need play a couple of games on those maps against an equal or higher rank. Win or loose you win, because you will get rid of the noob tag, and thus raise your map rank.

[prismsaber]

prism I was looking at your stats. It would not be too difficult to raise your score. You have many maps where you only played 1 or 2 games, but because you opponents were low rankers, you are tagged on that particular map as a Noob farmer. You only need play a couple of games on those maps against an equal or higher rank. Win or loose you win, because you will get rid of the noob tag, and thus raise your map rank.

I think relative rank is relatively useless so I won't go out of my way to attempt to raise it. Like you and I have pointed out, it can be manipulated to a degree. Some arbitrary number does not tell you who the best players are. You find out who they are by playing them. The majority of my games are now team games so I can only really have an opinion of who the best team players are (I don't consider myself one of these). Since I rarely play escalating or flat rate, I can't really say who the best are at these other than hearsay. Likewise pork, it is hard to say anything concrete about someone like you who only plays 1v1 games on specialized maps. So I guess basically what I'm saying is, if you're really interested in finding out who the best players are beyond the arbitrary numbers of points and rr, you have to play a lot of games with the best players on different settings. In the end it's just an opinion and it's always arguable.

[PepperJack]

Relative rank has absolutely no meaning w/o context. Pork, you would be best served to stop treating it as an some uber stat. Any that can be manipulated as easily as relative rank needs context.

What Fabled wrote was spot on. RR does not show your current avg. opponent, it shows your historical avg. opponent at time of game completion. The game logs are static so RR does not update to reflect changes in your and your opponents' current rank.

Ex: At game completion - 1000pts v 1000pts - RR = 1.00
A year later - 5000pts v 500pts - RR = 1.00

Relative rank is nothing more than a tool, not a full blown evaluation of a player and their choice of opponent historically. It doesn't tell you how many players were in their games. Doesn't tell you the settings. It doesn't really tell you much of anything by itself. Its a tool to put in one's toolbox for evaluating players. And if you've ever worked with tools you'll know that you can't just pull out the hammer every time something needs fixing.

[porkenbeans]

Relative rank has absolutely no meaning w/o context. Pork, you would be best served to stop treating it as an some uber stat. Any that can be manipulated as easily as relative rank needs context.

What Fabled wrote was spot on. RR does not show your current avg. opponent, it shows your historical avg. opponent at time of game completion. The game logs are static so RR does not update to reflect changes in your and your opponents' current rank.

Ex: At game completion - 1000pts v 1000pts - RR = 1.00
A year later - 5000pts v 500pts - RR = 1.00

Relative rank is nothing more than a tool, not a full blown evaluation of a player and their choice of opponent historically. It doesn't tell you how many players were in their games. Doesn't tell you the settings. It doesn't really tell you much of anything by itself. Its a tool to put in one's toolbox for evaluating players. And if you've ever worked with tools you'll know that you can't just pull out the hammer every time something needs fixing.

Why do you still contest my view, when it is practically the same as yours.
But, you must realize that at the time of the game "IS" where the date should be computed. why do you think that it should be any other way ?
After a year you have had a lot of practice, and your skills will improve. What is it that, keeps you from understanding this.
I am a carpenter, and I know how to use tools. This is not "building a house", but, I can use these tools just a well.
If you can point to my words and show me where I have used this tool wrong, Then Quote my words. That is not too much to ask. ...is it ?

[porkenbeans]

prism I was looking at your stats. It would not be too difficult to raise your score. You have many maps where you only played 1 or 2 games, but because you opponents were low rankers, you are tagged on that particular map as a Noob farmer. You only need play a couple of games on those maps against an equal or higher rank. Win or loose you win, because you will get rid of the noob tag, and thus raise your map rank.

I think relative rank is relatively useless so I won't go out of my way to attempt to raise it. Like you and I have pointed out, it can be manipulated to a degree. Some arbitrary number does not tell you who the best players are. You find out who they are by playing them. The majority of my games are now team games so I can only really have an opinion of who the best team players are (I don't consider myself one of these). Since I rarely play escalating or flat rate, I can't really say who the best are at these other than hearsay. Likewise pork, it is hard to say anything concrete about someone like you who only plays 1v1 games on specialized maps. So I guess basically what I'm saying is, if you're really interested in finding out who the best players are beyond the arbitrary numbers of points and rr, you have to play a lot of games with the best players on different settings. In the end it's just an opinion and it's always arguable.

It is only more data at your fingertips. More data useless ?, ...I think NOT.
Also, I used to play more multi-payer games. I happen to prefer them over 1V1. I used to spend 90% of my time in multi-player games. I switched to 90% 1V1 because of all the mult-account cheaters. There are many more than you might guess. It would be safe to say that you have been cheated from time to time without even knowing. All I know is when I switched, my rank has been steadily increasing. I still however play many multi-player games, maps ad settings. You would already know this if you learned how to use the TOOL.

[PepperJack]

Why do you still contest my view, when it is practically the same as yours.
But, you must realize that at the time of the game "IS" where the date should be computed. why do you think that it should be any other way ?
After a year you have had a lot of practice, and your skills will improve. What is it that, keeps you from understanding this.
I am a carpenter, and I know how to use tools. This is not "building a house", but, I can use these tools just a well.
If you can point to my words and show me where I have used this tool wrong, Then Quote my words. That is not too much to ask. ...is it ?

How about this one?

prism I was looking at your stats. It would not be too difficult to raise your score. You have many maps where you only played 1 or 2 games, but because you opponents were low rankers, you are tagged on that particular map as a Noob farmer. You only need play a couple of games on those maps against an equal or higher rank. Win or loose you win, because you will get rid of the noob tag, and thus raise your map rank.

prism only has 60 around players above him. He also has about 1000 games completed. He might drop the N00b farmer tag on a specific map but its an utterly pointless exercise. 2 or 3 games will have a negligible effect on his overall RR. Also, you are encouraging the pursuit of losing the NF tag on specific maps. Why? Its an insanely small sample size for nearly every player at the per map level. As you probably know, small sample sizes greatly skews stats. You make no mention of any of prism's other attributes; his win %, his exemplary kill ratio, his overall rank, his choice of games, and anything else I forgot.

I would say all of that adds up to misusing the stat. Don't get me wrong, I'm a MRGL proponent, but you are pretty clearly over emphasizing one aspect of it.

If you, or anyone, wants to tear down the leaderboard with stats, be sure to acknowledge all aspects, objective and subjective. Right now you can't see the forest for the trees.

[porkenbeans]

Why do you still contest my view, when it is practically the same as yours.
But, you must realize that at the time of the game "IS" where the date should be computed. why do you think that it should be any other way ?
After a year you have had a lot of practice, and your skills will improve. What is it that, keeps you from understanding this.
I am a carpenter, and I know how to use tools. This is not "building a house", but, I can use these tools just a well.
If you can point to my words and show me where I have used this tool wrong, Then Quote my words. That is not too much to ask. ...is it ?

How about this one?

prism I was looking at your stats. It would not be too difficult to raise your score. You have many maps where you only played 1 or 2 games, but because you opponents were low rankers, you are tagged on that particular map as a Noob farmer. You only need play a couple of games on those maps against an equal or higher rank. Win or loose you win, because you will get rid of the noob tag, and thus raise your map rank.

prism only has 60 around players above him. He also has about 1000 games completed. He might drop the N00b farmer tag on a specific map but its an utterly pointless exercise. 2 or 3 games will have a negligible effect on his overall RR. Also, you are encouraging the pursuit of losing the NF tag on specific maps. Why? Its an insanely small sample size for nearly every player at the per map level. As you probably know, small sample sizes greatly skews stats. You make no mention of any of prism's other attributes; his win %, his exemplary kill ratio, his overall rank, his choice of games, and anything else I forgot.

I would say all of that adds up to misusing the stat. Don't get me wrong, I'm a MRGL proponent, but you are pretty clearly over emphasizing one aspect of it.

If you, or anyone, wants to tear down the leaderboard with stats, be sure to acknowledge all aspects, objective and subjective. Right now you can't see the forest for the trees.

OK, I think That I understand Where you are coming from. I would like to show you where you are wrong.
On each map you are relatively ranked to all of your opponents on that map. Even if you only played the map 1 time.
Then they take an average of all those rankings. from all of your maps.
This is your MAP RANK score.
If you want to raise this score, you only need bring up the worst of your maps. You play as many games as it takes to do this. Hint- Play some top players. Some of your maps will be rather quick and easy to bring up, because you have only played 1 or 2 games on them. Others will be more difficult, if you have hundreds or thousand of games against Noobs.
Am I wrong, if so, Please show me.

[Mr Changsha]

I judge players in a much simpler way.

First, I look at their rank.

Second, I check their win rate.

Third, I check their most recent page of games.

I find this tells me all I need to know!

[porkenbeans]

I judge players in a much simpler way.

First, I look at their rank.

Second, I check their win rate.

Third, I check their most recent page of games.

I find this tells me all I need to know!

WOW, something we can agree on. Well partially anyways.
I do the exactly same thing, in the exactly same order.
It is only when I want to do more study of their game, that I will, open MAP RANK.

[King_Herpes]

it's obvious King_Herpes sucks ..... THOTA figured they would show him how bad ;)

see, all you had to do was ask and we would have shown you .... it's fun taking his points to put our pal back in the number 1 spot ... and we'll keep doing it till he starts making them private and puts us all on ignore ... we'll keep you posted on that one ... so far it looks like that is what is happening .... even more obvious

too funny .... so there is your proof ..... all in black and white

Hey porkenbeans! Look at this, Risktycoon is coming up in a close second for the most ignorant post. You better watch out because he just about said something more dumb than you.

So beating me in two out of three recent triples games is all it takes to be a bad player? Let me borrow your logic there for a second and show you that winning team games is not the ultimate display of skill. It's actually one of the safest ways to gain if you join with team players that have already learned from each others mistakes and don't play selfishly. If you were implying that team games are what makes a great player than your not going to like this. Please follow me for a moment...

Basically what Risk Tycoon is saying is that THOTA crushes me and not the other way around. Well let's have a little looksie....
King_Herpes vs. AndrewB Games: 1-2*......................................................King_Herpes vs. Khazalid Games: 1-4*
King_Herpes vs. David_Wain Games: 1-1....................................................King_Herpes vs. Genghis Khan CA Games: 0-0
King_Herpes vs. Blitzaholic Games: 10-6....................................................King_Herpes vs. gibbom Games: 0-0
King_Herpes vs. casper Games: 0-0............................................................King_Herpes vs. RiskTycoon Games: 1-0 FAIL
King_Herpes vs. nickfoxx Games: 0-0........................................................King_Herpes vs. comic boy Games: 0-1
King_Herpes vs. osujacket Games: 7-2.......................................................King_Herpes vs. Hatchman Games: 0-0
King_Herpes vs. dividedbyzero Games: 2-1................................................King_Herpes vs. Big Whiskey Games: 3-2
King_Herpes vs. AAfitz Games: 4-4............................................................King_Herpes vs. nikola_milicki: 3-2*
King_Herpes vs. Big Yum Ripper Games: 1-0..............................................King_Herpes vs. Clearwater_fl Games: 1-2*
King_Herpes vs. Nephilim Games: 2-2........................................................King_Herpes vs. aliakber1001 Games: 3-2
King_Herpes vs. Incandenza Games: 0-0....................................................King_Herpes vs. sjnap Games: 1-0
King_Herpes vs. roelbianca Games: 0-0......................................................King_Herpes vs. THOTA members Games: 41-29
*=Including still active but definite wins favoring THOTA 6-3

Overall I'm 58% against clan THOTA. So for someone that "really sucks" I'd say I did fairly well against such an admirable clan composed of so many outstanding players(I do mean that last part genuinely). That list shows the games a THOTA member has played against me. Also I only tallied my total wins and their total wins so it was even. This doesn't include non team games played where neither of us won. Also if I "really suck"(once again borrowing your flawed logic), just where does that leave THOTA? Does that mean that they really really suck? Everything is "there in black and white" if you just Map Rank me with the individuals so get back to me and let me know Tycoon......Chump!

I have to say, you kind of look stupid right about now because your last claim had absolutely no validity whatsoever. Oh well. Don't feel like that post was a complete waste of time because I've set up an exciting little contest on the hush. For every stupid and ignorant post made, I write out the persons name on a slip of paper and drop it in a box. At the end of the year the winner will win an all expenses paid vacation courtesy of asinine airlines where you'll be staying at the lovely dip shit resort. So far it looks like porkers got the edge but if you keep posting things like that without doing your homework than you might increase your odds.

[lanyards]

PWNED

[porkenbeans]

it's obvious King_Herpes sucks ..... THOTA figured they would show him how bad ;)

see, all you had to do was ask and we would have shown you .... it's fun taking his points to put our pal back in the number 1 spot ... and we'll keep doing it till he starts making them private and puts us all on ignore ... we'll keep you posted on that one ... so far it looks like that is what is happening .... even more obvious

too funny .... so there is your proof ..... all in black and white

Hey porkenbeans! Look at this, Risktycoon is coming up in a close second for the most ignorant post. You better watch out because he just about said something more dumb than you.

So beating me in two out of three recent triples games is all it takes to be a bad player? Let me borrow your logic there for a second and show you that winning team games is not the ultimate display of skill. It's actually one of the safest ways to gain if you join with team players that have already learned from each others mistakes and don't play selfishly. If you were implying that team games are what makes a great player than your not going to like this. Please follow me for a moment...

Basically what Risk Tycoon is saying is that THOTA crushes me and not the other way around. Well let's have a little looksie....
King_Herpes vs. AndrewB Games: 1-2(Including 1 game he's got in the bag)....King_Herpes vs. Khazalid Games: 1-4(Including 2 games he's got in the bag and 1 for me)
King_Herpes vs. David_Wain Games: 1-1..........................................................King_Herpes vs. Genghis Khan CA Games: 0-0
King_Herpes vs. Blitzaholic Games: 10-6..........................................................King_Herpes vs. gibbom Games: 0-0
King_Herpes vs. casper Games: 0-0..................................................................King_Herpes vs. RiskTycoon Games: 1-0 FAIL
King_Herpes vs. nickfoxx Games: 0-0..............................................................King_Herpes vs. comic boy Games: 0-1
King_Herpes vs. osujacket Games: 7-2.............................................................King_Herpes vs. Hatchman Games: 0-0
King_Herpes vs. dividedbyzero Games: 2-1......................................................King_Herpes vs. Big Whiskey Games: 3-2
King_Herpes vs. AAfitz Games: 4-4..................................................................King_Herpes vs. nikola_milicki: 3-2(Including 1 game he's got in the bag and 1 for me)
King_Herpes vs. Big Yum Ripper Games: 1-0....................................................King_Herpes vs. Clearwater_fl Games: 1-2(Including 2 games he's got in the bag and 1 for me)
King_Herpes vs. Nephilim Games: 2-2..............................................................King_Herpes vs. aliakber1001 Games: 3-2
King_Herpes vs. Incandenza Games: 0-0..........................................................King_Herpes vs. sjnap Games: 1-0
King_Herpes vs. roelbianca Games: 0-0............................................................King_Herpes vs. THOTA members Games: 41-29

Overall I'm 58% against clan THOTA. So for someone that "really sucks" I'd say I did fairly well against such an admirable clan composed of so many outstanding players(I do mean that last past genuinely). That list shows the games a THOTA member has played against me. Also I only tallied my total wins and their total wins so it was even. This doesn't include non team games played where neither of us won. Also if I "really suck"(once again borrowing your flawed logic), just where does that leave THOTA? Does that mean that they really really suck? Everything is "there in black and white" if you just Map Rank me with the individuals so get back to me and let me know Tycoon......Chump!

I have to say, you kind of look stupid right about now because your last claim had absolutely no validity whatsoever. Oh well. Don't feel like that post was a complete waste of time because I've set up an exciting little contest on the hush. For every stupid and ignorant post made, I write out the persons name on a slip of paper and drop it in a box. At the end of the year the winner will win an all expenses included vacation courtesy of asinine airlines where you'll be staying at the lovely dip shit resort. So far it looks like porkers got the edge but if you keep posting things like that without doing your homework than you might increase your odds.

Why must you always author a novel when responding to a thread ? And why is it always more fluff than substance. You spend more words to say nothing, than anyone in this forum. I would love to respond, but I dont know anything about risktycoon or your little war with each other. Your weird victory dance over me is very confusing. Maybe if you could try to be more specific with less words. The endless diatribes and excessive garnish, is just to much for me to endure. I have seen you do this often, when you are loosing an argument. You throw up a post that takes up a mile of thread, and then even more thread to dance in the end-zone. Take a cue from Jack Webb, ..."Just the facts mam".

[King_Herpes]

It's just to show that it was an incredibly bogus accusation pork chop. Don't get all sad, I have the right to say as much as I want to say. I can rub it in his face if I choose. He was doing the same to me with nothing to actually back it up. Which all you use to back up your statements is your beloved Map Rank system which when using it to judge skill is about as holy as Swiss cheese. Cheer up little guy, things will get better for you. Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday's pork face <3.

[porkenbeans]

It's just to show that it was an incredibly bogus accusation pork chop. Don't get all sad, I have the right to say as much as I want to say. I can rub it in his face if I choose. He was doing the same to me with nothing to actually back it up. Which all you use to back up your statements is your beloved Map Rank system which when using it to judge skill is about as holy as Swiss cheese. Cheer up little guy, things will get better for you. Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday's pork face <3.

Yes this is much easier to respond to , thanx.

About my beloved MAP RANK, It is NOT, holy as Swiss cheese. It is just more available data to consider, besides your beloved points.
We all know just how holey as Swiss cheese that stat. is by itself. If we were to just go by that, A person would have to conclude, that, the person with the most points is the BEST risk player. It is only when we look at the myriad of other stats, that you will find in MP RANK, that you learn the true story. But I suppose that you know this already. And all this fuss that you are throwing up against the facts that MAP RANK brings into the light, is very comical.
You would try to kill the messenger and the message. ...if you could.

[King_Herpes]

I would never agree with the person that has the most points is the best player. That would be the ultimate fat headed thing to say. You know I've been giving this who's the best player thing a lot of thought and well...let's be honest, it's you. Your the best player in CC because your Map Rank is so impressive. As for me, well I'm just the hungriest hungry hippo there is and I'm going to gobble up all the points I can get until I've had my fill. We all know you love statistics just as much as I enjoy being a point whore. I'm comfortable with agreeing to disagree but I just want you to wake up and see how many people disagree with your ideas. I think Prismsaber said it best about the best player can only be decided individually by playing many great players on many different settings and not solely by Map Ranking them. Also I enjoyed this quite a bit...

"Statistics are like a drunk with a lamp post: used more for support than illumination."
- Sir Winston Churchill

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli



Never believe them, never put your trust in them...

[porkenbeans]

I would never agree with the person that has the most points is the best player. That would be the ultimate fat headed thing to say. You know I've been giving this who's the best player thing a lot of thought and well...let's be honest, it's you. Your the best player in CC because your Map Rank is so impressive. As for me, well I'm just the hungriest hungry hippo there is and I'm going to gobble up all the points I can get until I've had my fill. We all know you love statistics just as much as I enjoy being a point whore. I'm comfortable with agreeing to disagree but I just want you to wake up and see how many people disagree with your ideas. I think Prismsaber said it best about the best player can only be decided individually by playing many great players on many different settings and not solely by Map Ranking them. Also I enjoyed this quite a bit...

"Statistics are like a drunk with a lamp post: used more for support than illumination."
- Sir Winston Churchill

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli



Never believe them, never put your trust in them...

I am pleased to see you admit that. I also am pleased that you can appreciate my stats. From my first day at CC, I went after the highest ranks that I could find. That is why my stats are,as they are. But instead of crowning me as the best, I would suggest that take a look at Fruitcake and Seulessliathan. Now that is IMPRESSIVE. I would put them way before me, ...and you.