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Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:55 pm

i see that you have 5 country, maybe you can split japan in half and split manchura in half too.

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:55 pm

-changed names in southern japan (i got a better map)
-split japan into two sections

im thinking...
southern japan +4?
northern japan +3?

all japan bonus +1 or +2?

any ideas for continent names?

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:02 pm

I guess i'm used to the world 2.0 format, but i think you should format it

Manchura +6
Fukien +6
Manchura + Fukien + 15

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:09 pm

Manchura + Fukien + 15

i agree. i will update that.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:09 pm

I agree splitting up japan might be a good idea. On how...I'd like to see something other than 'north/south'. Perhaps if you message Nobunaga...he could suggest better names than 'north/south' for the areas...as I believe he lives/is from Japan.

China seems like a huge mess...I'm going to have to look over it and comment on it later.

--Andy

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:13 pm

China seems like a huge mess...

i agree. i was happy with the original look but after changing it around, its look and feel are wrong. im not too sure what to do with it now....

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:00 am

I agree that China just doesn't seem right, it's a tricky one. I also think Japan could be split different. I don't know though, my knowlegde of Asia is lacking.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:28 am

I believe that Japan should be split south of Shinano, as that feels like a more natural split.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:34 am

also mongolia baotoi and heibi down to current split would be another possible split of china.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:20 am

I completely agree with reverend_kyle's comments. They would give you continents of varying size and borders which is what you want.

Fitz69 · Post by **Fitz69** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:21 am

Where is the Great Wall Of China?

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:26 am

As far as I know that region is called Manchuria not Manchura. Check it out and amend if I am right.

Exterminator · Post by **Exterminator** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:56 am

johloh wrote:

-changed names in southern japan (i got a better map)
-split japan into two sections

im thinking...
southern japan +4?
northern japan +3?

all japan bonus +1 or +2?

any ideas for continent names?

i think u should do Japan similar to China. meaning not put the same nomber of terras but put 7/8 on 1 and 4/5 on the other.

i aso feel Tokyo is a bit small, could u make it a bit bigger.

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:20 pm

got a few updates in this one...

-fixed typo, it is "manchuria"
-changed japan
-nishi nihon "west japan"
-Higashi nihon "east japan"
-talked to nobunaga to get those names. he said everything west of sagami was west japan, but for playability i moved it over one zone, to make the continents different sized.
-changed bonuses
-changed bonuses format to match the "world 2.0" format
-reworked china changing borders and bonuses
-i think this way matches real life a little more
-the great wall of china follows more or less the border of baotou as it is drawn now.

Im not sure if I should put the wall in or not, if its in i feel like it should cross the entire border, and that might hurt flow, unless I maybe add a sea contact that goes around it? not sure. opinions?

any ideas i missed? does china look better? or is it still kinda messy....

Zackismet · Post by **Zackismet** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:17 pm

i just don't think this map stand out enough for me to want to play it... I mean, it looks okay, but to some of the others that are in the process of being made this pales in comparison...

The background or the colors... or the concept, just anything could be different to make it more unique and interesting

zarvinny · Post by **zarvinny** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:29 pm

Bonuses:

Manchuria: 2
Fukien: 2
South Japan:2
North Japan:2

All of China: +2

Face it, if anybody gets to a point where they hold either all of manchuria or fukien and nobody can break it, then they have already won the game. The bonuses you have make the masses of land not even worthwhile to take. A complete waste of territory in my opinion (kinda like Asia on the Classic Map or World2.0 map). Make em 2. Then they'll be valuable holdings and will have a chance for people to actually hold em for sometime throughout the game.

zarvinny · Post by **zarvinny** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:33 pm

by the way, someone could just hold vladivastok and baotou and have everything in the middle. That would give them manchuria AND north korea. If manchuria was worth 7 that would be a Whopping bonus of 9 with 2 borders.. a bit unfair, doncha think?

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:01 am

If manchuria was worth 7 that would be a Whopping bonus of 9 with 2 borders.. a bit unfair, doncha think?

manchuria was changed to 4 in the last redo and north korea is 2 so that would give you a bonus of 6. not terribly unfair in my opinion.

Fukien: 2

Fukien is 13 territories. a bonus of 2 does not seem fair.

i just don't think this map stand out enough for me to want to play it... I mean, it looks okay, but to some of the others that are in the process of being made this pales in comparison...

if other people agree please let me know, this process is time consuming and id rather not spend my time if people dont like the map...

Fitz69 · Post by **Fitz69** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:00 am

Can't see the wall.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:05 am

I thought we were splitting China into 3 regions..

As of now the map is going to be focused all towards japan and south korea and china will be shucked aside til last.

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:08 pm

Can't see the wall.

i didnt put it in yet because i wasnt sure how to do it and improve gameplay, i was just discussing where it was in relation to the map. ill work on putting it in with the new three continents in asia (see below)

I thought we were splitting China into 3 regions..

oh i see! i reread your comments and now I understand what you meant, it didnt make sense at first....ill try that out.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:46 pm

your armie shapes are to tiny

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:45 pm

maybe shanche the man + fuk in ur legende it bring naughty though 2 my head

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:09 pm

johloh wrote:
Can't see the wall.
i didnt put it in yet because i wasnt sure how to do it and improve gameplay, i was just discussing where it was in relation to the map. ill work on putting it in with the new three continents in asia (see below)
I thought we were splitting China into 3 regions..
oh i see! i reread your comments and now I understand what you meant, it didnt make sense at first....ill try that out.

For the middle region..

shansi.. for a name.

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:58 pm

man + fuk in ur legende it bring naughty though 2 my head

omg. i cant believe i missed that. haha. ill fix it...

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