Astrology joke or not?

[Gillipig]

Normally I enjoy your posts MeDeFe! but it's not interesting to go deep in how unreasonble it sounds to believe in it, the interesting thing is if it works or not!

Remeber to have an open mind

MVH Gillipig

Maybe if someone could explain to me how this connection is supposed to work.

You write about how unreasonble it is, I write that all I care about for now is to get to know more about their statements and if they work on a practical level. You start talking about theoretical stuff when it's practical stuff I want to know about! that's what I wrote.

MVH Gillipig

[InkL0sed]

Actually, strangely enough there are patterns between the sun's activity and human conflict. It may or may not be something, but it is conceivable that things like solar flares might have ripple effects and influence things on Earth.

Even more likely is the possibilty that solar flares influence the weather, which does have an effect on us.

Still, astrology is superstition.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Yep, pretty much superstition. As far as i know(and i've looked into a matter a bit) there is no scientifically feasible way to link those specific stars the astrologers use and human behavior.

Also, Gillipig , i doubt you're going to get what you're asking for on this forum, you should probably try some forums more geared towards stuff like that. Oh and let us know what happens if you do ask on other forums, should be entertaining.

[PLAYER57832]

I have never seen a scientific study that backed up Astrologic data.

Well to it's defence you should mention that it's close to impossible to prove anything involing the human psych, Freud's ideas can't be proved in a scientific way either. And I believe what Freud says.

True, to a point (sociologists can do some pretty informative research) ... and I meant to include a disclaimer to that effect.

you must be a scorpio, they dont believe anything

My friend called me an Aquarius! Don't know what that means astrologicaly speaking but maybe you do?

MVH Gillipig

That reminds me of an ex-girlfriend. I'd do something that pissed her off and she'd say, "God, that is so like the Libra you are!"

After a point I gave her an ultimatum. Either she broke it down for me as to what was "so Libra about me" or she had to stop pulling that phrase out of her ass. Of course, as you might expect, she chose option C, "How 'bout I just keep you in the dark and go random astrologer on you when I damned well please, 'cause I'm your hippy girlfriend and that's how we roll."

This really gets at my main point. Just because someone SAYS they are "listening to Astrology"/"following Astrology" does not mean they really have a clue about it. That is even beyond the debates within Astrology (what does x mean) and about Astrology (is it accurate).

I mean, Widowmakers, and myself each profess Christianity, but we all have very, very differant views. Same in Astrology.

As far as I know Astrology is no life stance but is said to be influences that make people who they are, without puting believe in centrum. So astrology can be discussed on a practical level, If the statements are very precise and able to put in a system, so that you get very precise information on persons you don't even know, then atleast I'm getting interested, and thats what they claim they can do! So again if someone could try to give me a (astrology) read I would be very thankful.

MVH Gillipig

Astrology is closely related to, stems at least partially from Greek/Roman ideas of "the fates".. that is, that your life is decided by outside factors, at or before you were born, as opposed to the primarily Judeo-Christian belief in "free will". (loosely).

This is why many Christians see it as in opposition to their faith (or at best nuetral). (that said, there are some Christians who see these things as expressions of God .. particularly down south, but not solely there).

Anyway, for the same basic level of information you can get from people here, just do a basic internet search. You will find several tools. For a real detailed analysis, though, you will need to be seen by someone in person. I would suggest looking at more than one site and seeing if the information you glean from each is comparable.

[Gillipig]

Yep, pretty much superstition. As far as i know(and i've looked into a matter a bit) there is no scientifically feasible way to link those specific stars the astrologers use and human behavior.

Also, Gillipig , i doubt you're going to get what you're asking for on this forum, you should probably try some forums more geared towards stuff like that. Oh and let us know what happens if you do ask on other forums, should be entertaining.

CC is the only forum I'm active in, I'm wasting enough time here I think
Maybe I should try flame wars, you usually get the most serious responses from there

MVH Gillipig

[PLAYER57832]

Actually, strangely enough there are patterns between the sun's activity and human conflict. It may or may not be something, but it is conceivable that things like solar flares might have ripple effects and influence things on Earth.

Even more likely is the possibilty that solar flares influence the weather, which does have an effect on us.

Still, astrology is superstition.

Add in Magnetics, even basic temperature effects and yes ... we are affected by the Earth.

We are also affected by "birth order", seasons, etc. etc. .... Ironically, most data that I have seen about Astrology indicates that what truth there is lies in its connection to these outside factors. For example, a child born in winter in some places might (?) not have the same initial social interactions of a child born in summer. This would have been more true years ago than now, but I suppose there could still be an effect. Similarly, if marriages are more typically held during a particular time of year, then, well, first children are more likely to be born during a certain season roughly 9 months later.... etc. All of these might evidence themselves as similarities in Astrologic sign. This is not my field, I have read a few things here and there that suggested connections such as these. That is, while the stars probably don't affect us, they can be cooincidental indicators of other factors that DO influence us.

(I DO know that magnetics and electricity certainly affect animals and humans... but that is off the topic.)

[Gillipig]

Astrology is closely related to, stems at least partially from Greek/Roman ideas of "the fates".. that is, that your life is decided by outside factors, at or before you were born, as opposed to the primarily Judeo-Christian belief in "free will". (loosely).

Wikipedia doesn't include Astrology as a life stance!

Anyway, for the same basic level of information you can get from people here, just do a basic internet search. You will find several tools. For a real detailed analysis, though, you will need to be seen by someone in person. I would suggest looking at more than one site and seeing if the information you glean from each is comparable.

I seriously don't have time learn it on my own, I'm trying to take a shortcut.

And please don't trigger atheists (like myself) by mentioning something about religion on this topic, it's not relevant to bring believe up. I appreciate answers from astrologers who are willing answer my request, not guide me to some astrology site, or ask me to do resarch on my own.

MVH Gillipig

[Gillipig]

That is, while the stars probably don't affect us, they can be cooincidental indicators of other factors that DO influence us.

That was the best thing anyone of us has said here, well done. but.. That is a theoratical sentence, I'm looking for practical examples from astrology people!


MVH Gillipig

[PLAYER57832]

I seriously don't have time learn it on my own, I'm trying to take a shortcut.

I did not mean heavy research. When I Googled Astrology, I got probably 50 prediction sites ... that is, put in the information and get an answer. I cannot judge one from another, (except I doubt the first few are the most credible ), but I figure their information is probably as good as most you would get here... that is what I meant.


P.S. ... as for Wik. remember, it is essentially a "no edit" or "everyone edit" site. It is good to take you to all sorts of information, particularly about controversial stuff, but is not necessarily the most credible source for definitions and such. But, that is off topic.

[Gillipig]

P.S. ... as for Wik. remember, it is essentially a "no edit" or "everyone edit" site. It is good to take you to all sorts of information, particularly about controversial stuff, but is not necessarily the most credible source for definitions and such. But, that is off topic.

I know but if it doesn't stand on wikipedia it isn't something a lot of people know of either. plus it didn't stand anything about astrology as a life stance in my school books, and believe me the school books in Sweden are extremly neutral, if astrology was counted as a life stance it would probably get a couple of lines in that book!

MVH Gillipig

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