Almost a colonel multi????

by **bretzsky** on Wed May 17, 2006 7:30 am

I recently played a couple triples games against Ayame, Cenhis, and Mistral. As we played I watched as one would play sign out and the other sign in and do likewise. This made me a little suspicious, so I decided to check out some other games.
CHeck out any of their freestyle games and you will see a common pattern; just one of many examples below. But check any game and you will see it.
YOu will see that he intermingles all his players, but their time is never very close; enough time to switch accounts.

Funny how Ayame pauses 5 minutes between fortifications to allow Mistral to play!!! And then another 5 minutes to let Cenhis play!!!

You can decide but if you look at his games you will see that he is a multi and it is sad that he is almost a colonel, in 5th place as I write this. Some people work hard to get there and others have to cheat. It is really too bad.

Playing team games as a multi doesn't matter as much as he is a team, but those of you who have lost to a team in a singles game that isn't fair and if you check their games they have done this.

2006-05-14 14:49:27 - onebigtoe gets a card
2006-05-14 14:59:48 - Ayame receives 3 armies for 6 territories
2006-05-14 14:59:55 - Ayame deployed 3 armies on Syria
2006-05-14 15:00:09 - Ayame attacked Antakya from Syria and conquered it from GFGJ
2006-05-14 15:01:35 - Ayame fortified Euphrates with 4 armies from Syria
2006-05-14 15:01:48 - Ayame fortified Euphrates with 2 armies from Nejd
2006-05-14 15:03:09 - mistral receives 3 armies for 5 territories
2006-05-14 15:03:17 - mistral deployed 3 armies on Azerbaijan
2006-05-14 15:03:29 - mistral attacked Baghdad from Euphrates and conquered it from GFGJ
2006-05-14 15:03:57 - mistral fortified Kabul with 2 armies from Turkmenistan
2006-05-14 15:04:30 - mistral fortified Eastern Desert with 2 armies from Alexandria
2006-05-14 15:04:40 - mistral fortified Upper Nile with 2 armies from East Nubia
2006-05-14 15:04:51 - mistral fortified Baghdad with 2 armies from Kurdistan
2006-05-14 15:06:09 - Ayame fortified Pakistan with 2 armies from Uzbekistan
2006-05-14 15:06:23 - Ayame fortified Pakistan with 4 armies from Kabul
2006-05-14 15:07:23 - cenhis receives 3 armies for 7 territories
2006-05-14 15:07:41 - cenhis deployed 3 armies on Azerbaijan
2006-05-14 15:07:51 - cenhis attacked Caucasia from Azerbaijan and conquered it from onebigtoe
2006-05-14 15:08:03 - cenhis attacked Khuzestan from Azerbaijan and conquered it from GFGJ
2006-05-14 15:08:16 - cenhis attacked Zagros from Khuzestan and conquered it from onebigtoe
2006-05-14 15:08:34 - cenhis attacked Hormuz from Zagros and conquered it from eskilio
2006-05-14 15:08:51 - cenhis attacked Afghanistan from Pakistan and conquered it from onebigtoe
2006-05-14 15:09:21 - cenhis fortified Caucasia with 2 armies from Tehran
2006-05-14 15:09:32 - cenhis fortified Caucasia with 2 armies from Golestan
2006-05-14 15:09:46 - cenhis fortified Caucasia with 2 armies from Central Plateau
2006-05-14 15:10:05 - cenhis fortified Hormuz with 7 armies from Afghanistan
2006-05-14 15:10:27 - cenhis fortified Caucasia with 2 armies from Baluchistan
2006-05-14 15:10:45 - cenhis fortified Caucasia with 1 armies from Hormuz
2006-05-14 15:11:05 - cenhis fortified Nejd with 2 armies from Hejaz
2006-05-14 15:11:49 - Ayame fortified East Nubia with 4 armies from Upper Nile
2006-05-14 15:11:57 - Ayame fortified East Nubia with 4 armies from Eastern Desert
2006-05-14 15:12:27 - mistral fortified Hejaz with 8 armies from East Nubia
2006-05-14 15:12:57 - mistral fortified Khuzestan with 3 armies from Baghdad
2006-05-14 15:13:08 - mistral gets a card
2006-05-14 15:13:40 - cenhis fortified Nejd with 8 armies from Hejaz
2006-05-14 15:13:59 - cenhis fortified Hormuz with 2 armies from Khuzestan
2006-05-14 15:14:08 - cenhis fortified Caucasia with 1 armies from Khuzestan
2006-05-14 15:14:14 - cenhis gets a card
2006-05-14 15:14:37 - Ayame fortified Baghdad with 10 armies from Nejd
2006-05-14 15:14:41 - Ayame gets a card
2006-05-14 15:14:41 - Incrementing game to round 2
2006-05-14 15:27:56 - onebigtoe receives 3 armies for 3 territories
2006-05-14 15:28:09 - onebigtoe deployed 3 armies on Darfur
2006-05-14 15:28:22 - onebigtoe attacked Upper Nile from Darfur and conquered it from Ayame
2006-05-14 15:28:32 - onebigtoe attacked East Nubia from Upper Nile and conquered it from mistral
2006-05-14 15:29:52 - onebigtoe attacked Eastern Desert from East Nubia and conquered it from Ayame
2006-05-14 15:30:10 - onebigtoe attacked Luxor from Eastern Desert and conquered it from eskilio
2006-05-14 15:30:17 - onebigtoe attacked Alexandria from Luxor and conquered it from mistral
2006-05-14 15:31:02 - onebigtoe fortified East Nubia with 1 armies from Alexandria
2006-05-14 15:31:15 - onebigtoe fortified Israel and PT with 6 armies from Lebanon
2006-05-14 15:31:40 - onebigtoe gets a card
2006-05-14 15:35:17 - Ayame receives 3 armies for 5 territories
2006-05-14 15:35:36 - Ayame deployed 3 armies on Kabul
2006-05-14 15:35:45 - Ayame attacked Turkmenistan from Kabul and conquered it from mistral
2006-05-14 15:37:24 - cenhis receives 6 armies for holding Iran
2006-05-14 15:37:24 - cenhis receives 4 armies for 12 territories
2006-05-14 15:37:41 - cenhis deployed 3 armies on Kabul
2006-05-14 15:38:06 - Ayame attacked Pakistan from Kabul and conquered it from cenhis
2006-05-14 15:38:14 - Ayame attacked Afghanistan from Pakistan and conquered it from cenhis
2006-05-14 15:38:37 - Ayame fortified Caucasia with 3 armies from Afghanistan
2006-05-14 15:38:47 - eskilio receives 3 armies for 5 territories
2006-05-14 15:38:53 - eskilio deployed 3 armies on Oman
2006-05-14 15:38:53 - Ayame gets a card
2006-05-14 15:39:00 - eskilio attacked Pakistan from Oman and conquered it from Ayame
2006-05-14 15:39:12 - eskilio attacked Baluchistan from Pakistan and conquered it from cenhis
2006-05-14 15:39:41 - eskilio attacked Nejd from Gulf States and conquered it from Ayame
2006-05-14 15:39:54 - eskilio attacked Hejaz from Nejd and conquered it from cenhis
2006-05-14 15:40:09 - cenhis deployed 7 armies on Hormuz
2006-05-14 15:40:38 - cenhis attacked Baluchistan from Hormuz and conquered it from eskilio
2006-05-14 15:40:49 - cenhis attacked Pakistan from Baluchistan and conquered it from eskilio
2006-05-14 15:41:02 - cenhis attacked Oman from Pakistan and conquered it from eskilio
2006-05-14 15:41:32 - cenhis attacked Georgia from Caucasia and conquered it from GFGJ
2006-05-14 15:44:42 - cenhis fortified Oman with 1 armies from Georgia
2006-05-14 15:44:51 - cenhis gets a card
2006-05-14 15:46:13 - mistral receives 3 armies for 3 territories
2006-05-14 15:46:28 - mistral deployed 3 armies on Baghdad
2006-05-14 15:46:36 - mistral attacked Gulf States from Baghdad and conquered it from eskilio
2006-05-14 15:46:55 - mistral gets a card

by **john123** on Wed May 17, 2006 9:06 am

it does look a bit suspicious, especailly sine cenhis has only played about 5 games without ayame out of about 50

by **HighBorn** on Wed May 17, 2006 9:12 am

wow that does look a little.... :evil:

by **bretzsky** on Wed May 17, 2006 9:14 am

Sad thing is I think he may also play as Hevia and Trasto. I am pretty sure about Hevia.

by **qeee1** on Wed May 17, 2006 12:34 pm

Wow... it's wierd you expect that once players reach a certain point in the scoreboard there's no chance they could be a multi because everyone would be watching them... but if this is true then apparently not.

by **AndyDufresne** on Wed May 17, 2006 12:35 pm

I've played Ayame and in our war he was a respectable person (but that doesn't mean that in other games he always is). Just thought I would throw that out there, until we see the final verdict.

--Andy

by **Twill** on Wed May 17, 2006 8:27 pm

This one is tough, it's definately suspicious, I'm going to get a second pair of eyes on it and will get back to you

by **alster** on Thu May 18, 2006 2:03 pm

bretzsky wrote:I recently played a couple triples games against Ayame, Cenhis, and Mistral. As we played I watched as one would play sign out and the other sign in and do likewise. This made me a little suspicious, so I decided to check out some other games.
CHeck out any of their freestyle games and you will see a common pattern; just one of many examples below. But check any game and you will see it.
YOu will see that he intermingles all his players, but their time is never very close; enough time to switch accounts.

Actually I have been a bit suspicious about those three as well. They signed up again for a tripple game I had set up and behaved very, very coordinated in a very predictable manner again during the first round. The thing is that I don't want to be a bad looser. Because they kicked my team's ass royally the last time using the same very good team play.

But there was something. I looked trhough their games and have this nagging feeling. It feels to good. Like the feeling you get sometimes when you see a very attractive woman. But there's something wrong, she simply just looks to good to be a girl. Then you realize that it's really a man. I get that feeling with this team, they simply play to coordinated...

I was glad to see this post here, because I didn't want to start a thread... Well, dunno. They might just get together real life and play, that would explain their awesome coordination.

EDIT: See my second post here. As I write there, taking a discussion is ok, but I see no reason now why there would be any foul play involved here.

by **Ayame** on Thu May 18, 2006 4:16 pm

Exuse me for me english, this is not as well as I would. I think is interesting how when you became important - even in a game - all that you do and all that you did is very suspicious. Is life.

cenhis and trasto are two partners of a building company in Mallorca - The biger of the spanish islands -. Im a guy, Im engyneer, and I have a profesional relation with cenhis and trasto. Of course, we are friends too. mistral work with me. We play together, sometimes at the office of the building company, sometimes in my office, sometimes one in my office and the rest at the building company, in my house... We comunicate always by mobil or by messenger. Im the first to find conquer club and afther, came my friends of work in Mallorca.

Afther this, I have to say that everybody can think that he want, the scoreboard is nothing for me and, in the case of I don´t like to the most conquer club people, I will let to play personaly - even if I am inocent - and you breztqy - or something - you can figth for the "very important 5 position". I have no reason for play in a server if I dont like nobody, because I play just for have some fun and for escape some minutes of the work. Im pretty sure that my friends play for the same. So tell me what do you want I do and end to the problem.

by **Ayame** on Thu May 18, 2006 4:22 pm

Ah, thanks alestergren. I don´t understood very well. Do you thought that I was a attractive woman? :mrgreen:

by **eye84free** on Thu May 18, 2006 5:42 pm

OFF WITH THERE HEADS!!!!!

by **Black Jack** on Thu May 18, 2006 5:49 pm

Did y'all catch how he admitted that they coordinate... outside of the game.

by **Darkfire001** on Thu May 18, 2006 7:36 pm

^

Yah, cause its ALLOWED in Team Games. Freestyle thought perhaps they should get an updated version of the rules in spanish

by **PaperPlunger** on Thu May 18, 2006 7:41 pm

I coordinate outside of the games in freestyle, but only how i'm going to kill my friends.

by **bretzsky** on Thu May 18, 2006 7:49 pm

Ayame it is nothing against you except I believe you have cheated some people. You have played in games with; as you would call coordinated friends, which I do not believe they are.

My doubles partner and I talk as we play too, but our play never shows up like yours. Especially in freestlye games there would be crossover in our play. Your crossover leaves gaps and it is in all your games.

Check out games 22238 and 22239 where you, Mistral and Hevia play. It is a freestyle game, yet you all play like it is sequential and it is evident from how quickly you play after each other that the person is there watching or waiting.

I am sorry but my belief still stands that you are a multi and looking at any of your past games proves it. It isn't just great coordination among people, but one person.
You may now have some buddies trying to cover your butt but your history is what I am looking at.

by **Ayame** on Thu May 18, 2006 8:13 pm

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... ight=#7330

At this post, evilangel acused us to play without seconds of diference one from the other, to cenhis, trasto and I. Now you acuse us to play with minutes of diference...

Well bretzsky, I have enough of this and I have no time for answer your acusations all the time at forum. You don´t prove nothing, and you were acusated of the same that you acuse me now in this post

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1459

I only will repeat that I said in my last post: If the rest of people agree with you I have no problem in let conquer club.

by **philbert** on Thu May 18, 2006 8:21 pm

Actually Ayame, that post has nothing to do with bretzsky.

by **Ayame** on Thu May 18, 2006 8:25 pm

why not?

And why you, "his partner" go so fast in his defense?

by **philbert** on Thu May 18, 2006 8:28 pm

Are you asking why the post is not about him?! Look at the game mentioned in the post. He's my brother and that's why I'm fast to his defense.

by **wacicha** on Thu May 18, 2006 8:28 pm

i think that is what partners do one of my partners is highborn and everytime someone posts about his extrodinary stamina for posting i jump right in their cause i now him better than most just by being his partner