Your opinion on.....

[naxus]

Modernized farming.The actual dig in the dirt farming

Should we continue to do it and keep adding preservatives and pesticides to our food or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

[Dancing Mustard]

Actually I have never heard of 'leading questions', I don't know what you're talking about.

[captain.crazy]

Modernized farming.The actual dig in the dirt farming

Should we continue to do it and keep adding preservatives and pesticides to our food or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

modern farming is accomplished by cut throat multinational corporations like Monsanto. They genetically splice things like fish with tomatoes and fireflies with corn to make them resistant to pests and herbacides.

The next time one of you "vegans" sits down to a nice leafy salad with lots of tomatoes, remember... genetically, it has a face.

[thegreekdog]

Modernized farming.The actual dig in the dirt farming

Should we continue to do it and keep adding preservatives and pesticides to our food or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

Is there something wrong with the current way we do things? I seem to be functioning normally as a human being and I eat some fruits and vegetables that I purchase at a large chain supermarket.

[naxus]

Modernized farming.The actual dig in the dirt farming

Should we continue to do it and keep adding preservatives and pesticides to our food or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

Is there something wrong with the current way we do things? I seem to be functioning normally as a human being and I eat some fruits and vegetables that I purchase at a large chain supermarket.

Many preservatives and pesticedes can be harmful to humans in circumstances and its more chemicals being put in your body

[thegreekdog]

Okay.

Then, as I understand your question there are two alternatives:

(1) Have pesticides, etc. in your food + feed some high percentage of human beings
(2) Have no pesticides, etc. in your food + feed some low percentage of human beings.

I'll take option one since I have not been affected in a negative way by pesticides, and I'd rather feed a large percentage of people than a small percentage.

[SEAsportsfan]

Yeah, actually, I'm gonna have to agree. I'd rather take my chances and die of pesticides, as opposed to most certainly dying of starvation...however, i think there should be more research put into the effects of these pesticides and genetic mutations, and more labelling on products that tells us what exactly is in our food, or in some cases, what IS our food.

[Woodruff]

Okay.
Then, as I understand your question there are two alternatives:
(1) Have pesticides, etc. in your food + feed some high percentage of human beings
(2) Have no pesticides, etc. in your food + feed some low percentage of human beings.
I'll take option one since I have not been affected in a negative way by pesticides, and I'd rather feed a large percentage of people than a small percentage.

I think we should add flouride to our food.

[StiffMittens]

...or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

When exactly was that?

[naxus]

...or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

When exactly was that?

through out most of human history until modernized farming came into effect.The population would usually thrive until it hit a high point and then bad crops, the weather, insects, would cause years of low production which led to general starvation until either the crop got better or the pop. got low enough to support itself

Yeah, actually, I'm gonna have to agree. I'd rather take my chances and die of pesticides, as opposed to most certainly dying of starvation...however, i think there should be more research put into the effects of these pesticides and genetic mutations, and more labelling on products that tells us what exactly is in our food, or in some cases, what IS our food.

I agree on the research that we should be doing more.with pesticides though it gets worse each year.As insects can develop a resistance to pesticides that are used year after year until they become immune.And with pesticides comes bacteria which can be affected by them causing them to change and possibly target the food.

[thegreekdog]

So, really, there are three options. The third option is to make "better" pesticides.

[naxus]

So, really, there are three options. The third option is to make "better" pesticides.

no theres really two options as the one you state would cost a large amount of money and the farmers mentality is along the lines of "if it ain't broke, dont fix it"
It hasn't really killed alot of people so they arnt worried about it

[Dancing Mustard]

modern farming is accomplished by cut throat multinational corporations like Monsanto. They genetically splice things like fireflies with corn to make them resistant to pests and herbacides.

Actually, they do that to make it glow in the dark.


That way flying saucers can see them more easily, which makes their crop-circle communications more precise.

[Simon Viavant]

I don't see what the huge deal about about genetic engineering is, it's just breeding taken to a new level, it's better than pesticides.

[Dancing Mustard]

I don't see what the huge deal about about genetic engineering is

Exactly! It's nothing to be concerned about. It's 100% benefit with no drawbacks whatsoever.


I mean, check it out: SPIDERGOATS!!! How good is that? How could it possibly be a bad thing?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... r-web.html

[Neoteny]

This thread got kinda weird really fast.

[Fireside Poet]

Bring back the use of DDT as an insecticide.

[mpjh]

Modernized farming.The actual dig in the dirt farming

Should we continue to do it and keep adding preservatives and pesticides to our food or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

Actually, a study by the University of Pennsylvania found that Amish farms are as productive per acre of land as farms that use modern machinery and artificial fertilizers. The difference is that Amish farms are more labor intensive. So we could go to a much more organic food system, but more people would have to work as farmers. That would be terrible, we would have to value the work of farmers as much as the work of bankers -- terror on wall street.

[naxus]

Modernized farming.The actual dig in the dirt farming

Should we continue to do it and keep adding preservatives and pesticides to our food or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

Actually, a study by the University of Pennsylvania found that Amish farms are as productive per acre of land as farms that use modern machinery and artificial fertilizers. The difference is that Amish farms are more labor intensive. So we could go to a much more organic food system, but more people would have to work as farmers. That would be terrible, we would have to value the work of farmers as much as the work of bankers -- terror on wall street.

what kind of crops? and in what conditions did they test?

[mpjh]

corn - three year study

[naxus]

do you have any info on the on citrus plants when competing between modern vs old amish?

[Woodruff]

Modernized farming.The actual dig in the dirt farming

Should we continue to do it and keep adding preservatives and pesticides to our food or go back to the old ways where the farms could barely support the population and most often didn't?

Actually, a study by the University of Pennsylvania found that Amish farms are as productive per acre of land as farms that use modern machinery and artificial fertilizers. The difference is that Amish farms are more labor intensive. So we could go to a much more organic food system, but more people would have to work as farmers. That would be terrible, we would have to value the work of farmers as much as the work of bankers -- terror on wall street.

what kind of crops? and in what conditions did they test?

Riding. The Preakness.

[mpjh]

do you have any info on the on citrus plants when competing between modern vs old amish?

No, but the Amish grow a lot of fruit (the kind you eat, I mean with the nut inside, I mean -- you know -- that grows on trees), you might check at the University of Pennsylvania for more information.