PopeBenXVI wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:PopeBenXVI wrote:The Gov can't run any other programs efficiently
Since the private companies can't either, who cares?
So every private company out there must be bankrupt then.
Oh I thought you were talking about "efficiently providing care".
I never said "how awesome" private stuff is. I am saying the Gov controlling things is no better and is dangerous. They are running some healthcare right now and IT"S GOING BROKE! Show me the proof they will keep the costs down.
Bollocks, you talk about how awesome the private market is all the time.
As for proof that they will keep costs down, I'm just making the reasonable assumption that the US government isn't
vastly more incompetent than any other nation's government.
And I don't mean a little more incompetent, I mean an unbelievably shit ton of incompetent.
Really?
How many people from the U.S. go abroad for healthcare services now and how many from abroad come here who can not get care in their own country?
Poll on whether americans consider traveling abroad for care.Story about millions of Americans traveling abroad each year for care.http://news.health.com/2009/04/08/traveling-treatment/Want me to give you more stories?
Uhhhrrr.....No, I am saying that AMERICAN taxpayers should not be TAXED to provide FREE healthcare to ILLEGALS when the goal is supposedly AFFORDABLE CARE FOR AMERICANS! When has Obama been pitching we need to cover 12 million illegals? What about this don't you understand?
Unless illegals are denied emergency care,
something which will not happen anywhere in the near future, providing them with actual good care is cheaper for the American taxpayer.
I mean, you can be all opposed to it ideologically but the fact is that it saves money.
That just makes no sense so maybe you try to explain how stupid you are by saying that. Sooooo us opposing the current bill because we think there is too much crap in it somehow makes it longer? Ok, got it.
No you mong. You guys opposing every program adds unnecessary stuff to it because the billmakers try to please you. The same thing happened with the bailout; unnecessary clauses and so get added to draw senators over the line.
A bill which will provide free care for 12 million illegals.....Hmmmm ok I'll let you know when a different bill gives free care as the current one. Also, 12 million freeloaders from Mexico surpass the number of Americans who go bankrupt over medical each year 10-1. So yeah, I'll let you know, oh wait I just did.
Yeah.....these 12 million illegals
are already freeloading. The only thing this bill changes is that they will now cost less money.
Seriously, if all you can object to in this bill comes down to how much you dislike illegal immigrants just shut up.
Because Obama is not interested in that.
Soooooo.....the only way to do anything in your country is to wait for the President to do it?