point losses

Hatchman · Post by **Hatchman** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:33 am

How are they calculated?

Sorry if this has already been covered.

Thanks

Captain Crash · Post by **Captain Crash** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:38 am

Yeah covered in the FAQ:

How are points calculated?
Conquer Club players are initially given a score of 1000. At the end of each game, the winner takes points away from each loser. The points to be awarded is calculated as (loser's score / winner's score) * 20, up to a maximum of 100 points from each opponent.

Except in 'Terminator' where you get points as you eliminate your opponents and lose them as you are eliminated.
Calculated in the same though.

cheers

Hatchman · Post by **Hatchman** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:44 am

Yeah I've read that, but I'm asking how the loser's score is specifically calculated. I've been eliminated in games and lost the most points of all players even though I was last to be eliminated (i.e. I was the runner-up to the winner). I would think that the longer you last, the fewer points you lose.

Adran · Post by **Adran** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:51 am

As stated in the post just before you, the amount of points you lose is based upon your points, and the points of the winner(look at peoples profiles to see their points. This is their score). It does not take into account how well you did in the game or how long you lasted. So for you to have lost more points that the other peopel that lost, you had more points than them.

Hope this finally makes it clear
Phil

Hatchman · Post by **Hatchman** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:53 am

Yes that makes it very clear! Thanks

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:42 pm

The other point of course is it calculated at Start of game points or end of game points? Or at Death Points?

i.e. you start a game and you have 1000 points...

Whilst playing this game you gain 200 points...

Halfway through you die...

Before the game is finished yuo lose 50 points...

So is your point loss based on 1000, 1200 or 1150?

C.

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:19 pm

yeti_c wrote:The other point of course is it calculated at Start of game points or end of game points? Or at Death Points?

i.e. you start a game and you have 1000 points...

Whilst playing this game you gain 200 points...

Halfway through you die...

Before the game is finished yuo lose 50 points...

So is your point loss based on 1000, 1200 or 1150?

C.

I think it is at the moment the game ends (or with Terminator at the moment a player is eliminated). That should also be easier in programming I think.

If you really want to know exact, you should check what your score (and of your opponents) is just before you eliminate someone/win the game, and just after. Then you can calculate what is should have been when it's the exact moment's score. If that gives the new scores, then that's it.

silvanthalas · Post by **silvanthalas** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:21 pm

yeti_c wrote:The other point of course is it calculated at Start of game points or end of game points? Or at Death Points?

For regular games, points for everybody are calculated at the end of game.

For terminator games, points are calculated when the player is eliminated.

Personally, I'd rather that points be 'locked' for a player when the game starts, and everything is calculated from that locked score. But the current method is efficient.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:29 pm

silvanthalas wrote:
yeti_c wrote:The other point of course is it calculated at Start of game points or end of game points? Or at Death Points?
For regular games, points for everybody are calculated at the end of game.

For terminator games, points are calculated when the player is eliminated.

Personally, I'd rather that points be 'locked' for a player when the game starts, and everything is calculated from that locked score. But the current method is efficient.

I think it makes the most sense for your points to be calculated when you are eliminated in any game, not just terminator.

In really long games, you may enter with a really low score but become a much better player as the game progresses. So if the game ends months later it wouldn't make sense to calculate the points based off your initial score.

Similarly, if you enter the game and you're eliminated very early but the game drags on for months and you become a better player, it wouldn't make sense to calcualte your score based on what it is at the end since when you were eliminated you were a worse player and your score reflected that.

So, let's say I'm in a long standard game and I'm eliminated early. The game would keep track of my score at that moment but not do any calculation. Then once the game is over it would know the winners score and could calculate the points lost/gained from when I was eliminated. I think that would be a slight improvement, but it doesn't matter really much since 4 month games are the exception, not the norm. And theres no guarantee that you will improve as a player over those months anyway (or that your score is an accurate representation of your skill).