Americans

[Guiscard]

Let me know where your from and I'll try to be more specific, I honestly don't give enough of a shit about you to figure it out.... but here's a list of who have died in the last 4 years fighting for what I'm sure you think is our own personal vendetta for oil. What a close minded cold hearted f*ck you are to think that killing off tens of thousands of your own citizens should go unnoticed by the world. Pussies like you are the reasons these dictators exist. Heroes like the ones listed below are the only reason the world is not a complete fucking pile of shit. Show respect and stop being such a fucking douche bag. I'm quite sure the closest you have ever come to being as courageous as the people below is leaving the basement of your parents to pick up some porn to whack off to as you cry off your inadequacies.

Ok that's me out of this thread. Basically every pro-American post in the last few pages has proved a big point - if you can't see it then go about your life with your head in the sand. I'm not even gonna bother to respond to all the stupid bullshit you've all written to be honest. Was trying to keep it political, sensible and bring in some genuine scholarly criticisms but apparently it just ends up as shouting. Would have hoped someone would have tried to argue the pro-American side logically. I actually think I could, and there are plenty of scholars who would agree with you if you just get off your arse and educate yourself. If people came back with democratic peace theory, Kant, Doyle and all that then I would have been happy enough. I did give you all a few hints in naming a few writers but no... ignorant ranting is the best defence apparently.

You pwned yourselves I'm afraid, valiant citizens of the USA. And that casualty list was the height of it. Dying doesn't make you a hero it makes you a martyr, and every side of the argument can use you for its propaganda.

Ta Ta.

[tonywalrus]

Actually, Guiscard you are right.

I have been using this thread as a source of fun, it's like metaphorically poking idiots with pointy sticks. But I didn't see that post by tmidgley. There is no honour in this and it is going lower than I can imagine for someone to support their pathetic ramblings on a game site with a list of dead people.

I am out of here, this thread stinks.

Shame

[Guiscard]

Actually, Guiscard you are right.

I have been using this thread as a source of fun, it's like metaphorically poking idiots with pointy sticks. But I didn't see that post by tmidgley. There is no honour in this and it is going lower than I can imagine for someone to support their pathetic ramblings on a game site with a list of dead people.

I am out of here, this thread stinks.

Shame

Tiddlywinks, then?

[Titanic]

I was thinking Dominos

[tmidgley]

You asked who's died for you... I supplied a partial list. Listing them is honoring them. I guess it was a little to real for you guys now go back to your games.

[reverend_kyle]

This thread is no fun anymore, its too bad that the people pwned by it are too stupid to even believe how horribly pwned theyve been.


Because "we're from america where we exist europeans are the pwned ones"

[Titanic]

Gj Europeans, lets go and celebrate in Zanti (or however its spelt).

[Beastly]

redundantly pwned

[Beastly]

Gj Europeans, lets go and celebrate in Zanti (or however its spelt).

Are you always this ignorant, or are you making a special effort today?

Actually, Guiscard you are right.

I have been using this thread as a source of fun, it's like metaphorically poking idiots with pointy sticks. But I didn't see that post by tmidgley. There is no honour in this and it is going lower than I can imagine for someone to support their pathetic ramblings on a game site with a list of dead people.

I am out of here, this thread stinks.

Shame

I used to think that you were a gibbering idiot. Now, after reading your latest post, I have a much lower opinion of you.

[Titanic]

Errmmm...How exactly in my post ignorant?

[unriggable]

You asked who's died for you... I supplied a partial list. Listing them is honoring them. I guess it was a little to real for you guys now go back to your games.

They didn't necessarily die for our country...We'd still be here if they were alive. In fact, the only real difference would be that Bush's approval rating would be above 30% and Dick Cheney would be on edge constantly as his company, Halliburton, isn't doing well because they aren't getting oil.

EDIT: Oh and uncountable amounts of Iraqis would be alive. Seriously, how do you justify missing your targets every time for the first fifty missiles shot?

[b-b5]

[tonywalrus]

Gj Europeans, lets go and celebrate in Zanti (or however its spelt).

Are you always this ignorant, or are you making a special effort today?

Actually, Guiscard you are right.

I have been using this thread as a source of fun, it's like metaphorically poking idiots with pointy sticks. But I didn't see that post by tmidgley. There is no honour in this and it is going lower than I can imagine for someone to support their pathetic ramblings on a game site with a list of dead people.

I am out of here, this thread stinks.

Shame

I used to think that you were a gibbering idiot. Now, after reading your latest post, I have a much lower opinion of you.

*poke*

[Blueoctober]

any european who hates america should be shot cause if it werent for america you would all be speaking german

twice actually

[vtmarik]

If we have the technology to fire a bomb and have it go down an airshaft into an underground bunker, what's stopping us from developing technology that can launch food at hungry people?

'Hey, that guy could use a banana!'
[ShhhhhhhOOOM! Smack!]
'Mission Accomplished!'

The stealth banana!

Smart fruit!

[Blzbba]

Let me know where your from and I'll try to be more specific, I honestly don't give enough of a shit about you to figure it out.... but here's a list of who have died in the last 4 years fighting for what I'm sure you think is our own personal vendetta for oil. What a close minded cold hearted f*ck you are to think that killing off tens of thousands of your own citizens should go unnoticed by the world. Pussies like you are the reasons these dictators exist. Heroes like the ones listed below are the only reason the world is not a complete fucking pile of shit. Show respect and stop being such a fucking douche bag. I'm quite sure the closest you have ever come to being as courageous as the people below is leaving the basement of your parents to pick up some porn to whack off to as you cry off your inadequacies.

Ok that's me out of this thread. Basically every pro-American post in the last few pages has proved a big point - if you can't see it then go about your life with your head in the sand. I'm not even gonna bother to respond to all the stupid bullshit you've all written to be honest. Was trying to keep it political, sensible and bring in some genuine scholarly criticisms but apparently it just ends up as shouting. Would have hoped someone would have tried to argue the pro-American side logically. I actually think I could, and there are plenty of scholars who would agree with you if you just get off your arse and educate yourself. If people came back with democratic peace theory, Kant, Doyle and all that then I would have been happy enough. I did give you all a few hints in naming a few writers but no... ignorant ranting is the best defence apparently.

You pwned yourselves I'm afraid, valiant citizens of the USA. And that casualty list was the height of it. Dying doesn't make you a hero it makes you a martyr, and every side of the argument can use you for its propaganda.

Ta Ta.

Just as I suspected.

I asked you "Where are you from?" and "What the f*ck have you done to better the planet?"

And now you run off like the piece of cowardly chickenshit you are, rather than answer.

Please DO leave this thread. Like the world itself, you & your ilk have brought absolutely NOTHING to the table but a big glass of WHINE.

[Backglass]

I asked you "Where are you from?" and "What the f*ck have you done to better the planet?

Hang on..are you saying that by being in Iraq, we are somehow "bettering the planet"? Please explain.

[D.IsleRealBrown]

Haven't you been listening?

The soldiers in Iraq are dying for YOU!

[tmidgley]

I asked you "Where are you from?" and "What the f*ck have you done to better the planet?

Hang on..are you saying that by being in Iraq, we are somehow "bettering the planet"? Please explain.

I think its fair to compare Sadam to a younger Hitler.... how much better would Europe have been if Hitler was nipped in the but sort of speak?

[D.IsleRealBrown]

I asked you "Where are you from?" and "What the f*ck have you done to better the planet?

Hang on..are you saying that by being in Iraq, we are somehow "bettering the planet"? Please explain.

I think its fair to compare Sadam to a younger Hitler.

You obviously have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

Please offer some kind of explanation.

[RenegadePaddy]

I think he means "the western world armed a tyrant to act as a buffer between it and a problem that no-one wanted to face (back then, USSR - recently, Iran), and then everyone acted all suprised when they took the money and guns, and did their own thing instead."


Oh, and Beastly, I noticed that you havnt replied to my ripping down your infantile tirade a few pages back.

[tmidgley]

I asked you "Where are you from?" and "What the f*ck have you done to better the planet?

Hang on..are you saying that by being in Iraq, we are somehow "bettering the planet"? Please explain.

I think its fair to compare Sadam to a younger Hitler.

You obviously have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

Please offer some kind of explanation.

Really? So are you saying that Sadam wasn't a tyrant... that he didn't kill off thousands of people in the country that he governed? The world would be a much better place if he were allowed to flourish right?

[RenegadePaddy]

Iraq would be safer - Saddam kept out militants as they were a threat to him. Iraqis are getting killed much more frequently and in higher numbers now he's gone, the public services are still knackered from the invasion, and US troops were recently shown to be doing bugger all training of Iraqi local forces (a news report showing them filming the beating of innocents in sectarian violence, rather than teaching the police "no, dont kick the shit out of who you dont like, just the bad guys"). Oh, and all this bloody shambles has done is take scared people, who would once have viewed the US as liberators, and recruited them into terrorist groups, as what litle they ever had has been taken from them.

[tmidgley]

Iraq would be safer - Saddam kept out militants as they were a threat to him. Iraqis are getting killed much more frequently and in higher numbers now he's gone, the public services are still knackered from the invasion, and US troops were recently shown to be doing bugger all training of Iraqi local forces (a news report showing them filming the beating of innocents in sectarian violence, rather than teaching the police "no, dont kick the shit out of who you dont like, just the bad guys"). Oh, and all this bloody shambles has done is take scared people, who would once have viewed the US as liberators, and recruited them into terrorist groups, as what litle they ever had has been taken from them.

You should have prefaced this with “except for the Kurds”

[RenegadePaddy]

To be perfectly honest, Iraq would be better split in 3 - the shias, sunnis, and kurds all live in reasonably distinct parts of the country, and all want their own state, but not to be ruled by or work with either of the other two.

However, no US administration would make getting their oil that much harder (3 nations to deal with, rather than one), and Iran and Turkey would be less than impressed at the recreation of Kurdistan.

Then again, Poland was reborn after WWI..........