America's illogicall fixation on race

[Snorri1234]

Focusing on illegal aliens as themselves the problem solves nothing.

So you would be okay if we focused our efforts on companies that employ illegal aliens?

That won't really solve anything either though.

[thegreekdog]

It's like the war on drugs: incredibly costly, no real effect at all but people and politicians can't seem to understand there is a better solution. Still, I think ending it but keeping the law is better than not ending it.

And I think ending the law is the best solution.

[Snorri1234]

It's like the war on drugs: incredibly costly, no real effect at all but people and politicians can't seem to understand there is a better solution. Still, I think ending it but keeping the law is better than not ending it.

And I think ending the law is the best solution.

I completely agree, but it is as the moment unlikely to happen. Go campaign for it if you want, but don't expect to achieve enough results.

[Nobunaga]

... It's interesting that Greekdog brought up the bit about Hispanics being generally conservative, a generalization, sure, but largely true. The same could be said for blacks prior to the 1960's.

... Here is the plan our government probably has for illegal immigrants of Hispanic descent:

... 1. Legalize the lot of them, with amnesty of some kind.

... 2. Watch as they congregate into their own communities, separated from others. This is already the case. Promote this with various free / ultra-cheap housing programs.

... 3. Give them voting rights (expanded from current limitations on legal residents).

... 4. Convince them that they are not earning what they are worth, that they are being used and they are being oppressed by racist white America, huge corporations, Republicans, the whole spiel. Convince them that they deserve more than what they have.

... 5. Launch a campaign to bring about "social justice". Enroll them by the millions into various government programs that will give them more money (for nothing). This is already happening and they aren't even legal yet.

... 5. Come election time, tell them how to vote.

... It worked for blacks in America, worked spectacularly. No reason it shouldn't work again.

...

[PLAYER57832]

... It's interesting that Greekdog brought up the bit about Hispanics being generally conservative, a generalization, sure, but largely true. The same could be said for blacks prior to the 1960's.

... Here is the plan our government probably has for illegal immigrants of Hispanic descent:

... 1. Legalize the lot of them, with amnesty of some kind.

... 2. Watch as they congregate into their own communities, separated from others. This is already the case. Promote this with various free / ultra-cheap housing programs.

... 3. Give them voting rights (expanded from current limitations on legal residents).

... 4. Convince them that they are not earning what they are worth, that they are being used and they are being oppressed by racist white America, huge corporations, Republicans, the whole spiel. Convince them that they deserve more than what they have.

... 5. Launch a campaign to bring about "social justice". Enroll them by the millions into various government programs that will give them more money (for nothing). This is already happening and they aren't even legal yet.

... 5. Come election time, tell them how to vote.

... It worked for blacks in America, worked spectacularly. No reason it shouldn't work again.

...

I started to answer intelligently (point out that REAGAN pretty much started the whole amensty thing), but your post is really just an example of blatant xenophobic protectionist fear blathering.

Seriously, I expect a LOT better of you Nobunga. None of that is either what is being seriously proposed or considered, nor is it anything anyone here has suggested.

[Nobunaga]

... It's interesting that Greekdog brought up the bit about Hispanics being generally conservative, a generalization, sure, but largely true. The same could be said for blacks prior to the 1960's.

... Here is the plan our government probably has for illegal immigrants of Hispanic descent:

... 1. Legalize the lot of them, with amnesty of some kind.

... 2. Watch as they congregate into their own communities, separated from others. This is already the case. Promote this with various free / ultra-cheap housing programs.

... 3. Give them voting rights (expanded from current limitations on legal residents).

... 4. Convince them that they are not earning what they are worth, that they are being used and they are being oppressed by racist white America, huge corporations, Republicans, the whole spiel. Convince them that they deserve more than what they have.

... 5. Launch a campaign to bring about "social justice". Enroll them by the millions into various government programs that will give them more money (for nothing). This is already happening and they aren't even legal yet.

... 5. Come election time, tell them how to vote.

... It worked for blacks in America, worked spectacularly. No reason it shouldn't work again.

...

I started to answer intelligently (point out that REAGAN pretty much started the whole amensty thing), but your post is really just an example of blatant xenophobic protectionist fear blathering.

Seriously, I expect a LOT better of you Nobunga. None of that is either what is being seriously proposed or considered, nor is it anything anyone here has suggested.

... No, no, of course you don't suggest it and I'm sure you wouldn't want it, but this is what will happen if the same course is followed. Government will do to the Hispanics what it has already done to the blacks in America. Absolutely institutionalized racism. But oh, what a surprise! It's origin is from the left. OMG, somebody call the Oprah!

...

[PLAYER57832]

Focusing on illegal aliens as themselves the problem solves nothing.

So you would be okay if we focused our efforts on companies that employ illegal aliens?

That won't really solve anything either though.

I think it would.

Here is the thing, the problems are that companies have jobs that many citizens won't take and there are groups of people in other countries who consider these jobs "dreams". Sometimes the conditions are poor, sometimes the pay is low. We can close those companies, force remainders to pay better/offer better conditions. This works when there is a viable industry, when the market allows for the higher pay (etc.). And yes, we cannot just look at conditions right now because often times force creates the change. Some employers will, wanting better workers (etc.) pay better voluntarily, but many others plain won't. Many of those others are just poor business people who want to take the "easiest" route to quick cash, but it gets complicated. One guy starts out as a plain cheat and then the rest wind up having to go along or riks being overrun by other businesses. Shut down the bad businessess in that case and everyone benefits, most especially the honest employers (and employees, of course!). Society, though, including particularly strained social services, benefit as well because all those legal workers now pay more taxes.

So far, I think most here agree.

BUT, here is the real question, for those hyping the "they are illegal ... that is the issue.

What part of the above is solved by locking up everyone who crosses the border without the proper paperwork? Are employers forced to create better conditions? Not really. Even if a particular employer really is shut down (often they are not), another will come again. The targets change, so if channels to Mexican workers are blocked, then jsut look to Asia or Africa...until the ISN's focus shifts again.

Many of the kids are citizens, now either forced back to poor conditions with their parents (but able to return on thier own later -- without education, proper medical care, etc.) OR left here in the care of an overburdened social service system (great way to create nice, caring citizens that ... NOT!). Instead of more funding, local agencies are strapped even further...

ETC.

Contrast that with what I suggested... open up FAR more temporary permits, charge employers a (small/proportional) added tax that would go to support local services and increase penalities to employers who don't PAY the taxes they should, who don't provide safe (per current law) working conditions. Do require that anyone entering have a "return ticket" (or proof of means to return). Allow employers to even recruit overseas, but require them to then provide housing, etc. (in addition to the extra taxes) at least for an initial orientation period. Economics will then take care of the situation pretty well.

A secondary problem often mentioned is the increase of real crime. Despite what some try to put forward, the real truth is that illegal aliens, or any immigrant group, historically, have NOT been huge committers of crime, at least until they are repressed ans suppressed. At some point, they have to protect themselves. This happened in the past, has happened in other countries, but we are not quite there yet in this country, except for a few isolated pockets. In the end, yes, such pressure does cause people to leave.. the goal, you might say. BUT, look at the real cost. The real cost is that you hand over control of your area to outright thugs. Only thugs really and truly think it is OK to beat up a man who just wants to work. Thugs like being in control. Once they have control, they find another "target" or simply exert more control over the people. (we HAVE to increase your taxes so we can pay all these law enforcement folks to control "them"). That is exactly what happened in the south in the 50's and 60's and it is one reason really undoing the whole racism thing there has been so difficult. In the south, you actually wound up with 2 sets of thugs in charge -- whites and blacks each, who ironically enough have wound up working together. Yet, the south is hardly a haven of prosperity, with a couple of exceptions. (and if you look closely, you see this pattern was somehow broken in each of those exceptions).

Of course, nice Republicans are not thugs and don't want that to happen.... BUT... they might just find it convenient to ignore or "too difficult" a problem to solve. Not their fault that all these extremists act the way they do.... (wink, wink). A lot probably even believe it, just as a lot down south in the 60's .. nice, honest, church-going people really and truly believed that blacks real agenda was to wrest American from whites and turn this country into one big "jamba party" of utter immorality. (those blacks they knew, were of course "exceptions".. not like those trouble makers at all!).

Sound extreme? Perhaps, but look at history.. over and over this is what happened. Even if we don't descend to those depths, though, the effect is negative even at less nasy levels. The result is that those in power get to increase their power and other people wind up paying the prices. "Those in power" include employers who don't have to pay better, politicians and "others" who operate behind the scenes. Ironically enough, many people are BOTH victims and oppressors in this system (small business owners in particular are encouraged to focus blame for poor conditions and lack of profit on "them", and will help ensure that any of "them" they hire get the poorest wages, etc. They will give the "legitimates" a slightly higher wage or slightly better conditions (to show that they know the difference)... but then wind up having to pay additional taxes to support the system.

[PLAYER57832]

... No, no, of course you don't suggest it and I'm sure you wouldn't want it, but this is what will happen if the same course is followed. Government will do to the Hispanics what it has already done to the blacks in America. Absolutely institutionalized racism. But oh, what a surprise! It's origin is from the left. OMG, somebody call the Oprah!

...

If you seriously believe even a part of that, then you need to go back and reread history, concentrating on the realities of how various minorities have been treated in American and the economic impacts of various immigrant waves. .. or just read below for an extreme "quickie" version (missing a LOT of details, but accurate).

You are joining the classic scenario.. when times get tought, paint a scapegoat and let everyone focus on them instead of the real problem ... people at the top who take far too much for themselves, while leaving the rest in shorts.

[KoolBak]

Nobu-san....you crack me up

[Nobunaga]

If you seriously believe even a part of that, then you need to go back and reread history, concentrating on the realities of how various minorities have been treated in American and the economic impacts of various immigrant waves. .. or just read below for an extreme "quickie" version (missing a LOT of details, but accurate).

You are joining the classic scenario.. when times get tought, paint a scapegoat and let everyone focus on them instead of the real problem ... people at the top who take far too much for themselves, while leaving the rest in shorts.

... Creating a scapegoat? Who's the scapegoat? I'm blaming you (well, not you personally). Classic pattern? My ass. You're running away from the facts here like our President is running away from Afghanistan.

... Here's the recipe for creating complete dependence on government:

... (NOT temporary) Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Job Opportunities and Basic Skills Training (JOBS), Emergency Assistance to Needy Families with Children (EANF), Section 8 Housing, Food Stamps...

... Star Parker. You'd love her. From bottom rung moocher class welfare cheat to (semi) successful author. And hey, just like you she has a great deal of animosity for corporations, those "people on the top" you mentioned (but unfortunately she also believes in personal responsibility and sees spirituality and free markets as vehicles to freedom for blacks in America... but maybe you can just ignore those parts).

... She's points out quite beautifuly who perpetrated the system of dependence on American blacks and the very tragic results. It's certanly not "the usual suspects".

... The very same scenario is waiting for Hispanics.

...

[angola]

Nobunga - I can't do all that fancy quote stuff, but to answer your questions:

1. I'm not being childish or defensive, you said, "... My family is multi-racial, I have a bit of insight on this."

By saying that in response to my earlier response is an attempt by to discredit my views based on you coming from a bi-racial family. I was simply pointing out that I to come from a bi-racial family, so it is an even playing field. Just was trying to give you a heads up so you could get off of your high-horse of acting like you know more than me simply based on your background.

2. Based on your link, in 2005 1.4 million illegal Mexican immigrants lived in Texas. According to the Census bureau, in 2006 8.2 million Mexicans lived in Texas legally.

You said, "The presence of many, if not most of those Mexicans in the US is a crime. Period."

1.4 million of 9.6 millions is not many. It's not most. And it is not a majority. It's a lot of people, sure, but your statement makes it seem like nearly every single Mexican a person sees walking around is here illegally.

That's the essence of flinging shit against a wall. You make a definitive statement with nothing in which to back it up. Then you get your feelings hurt and ask why I'm being sarcastic and how I must be a pre-teen (which I'm not by the way, but thanks for asking).

3. Wait, racism exists now? Then why are we having this argument?
Because you said, "... Where the hell do you live, Angola? Where do you see race as such a huge problem?"

So, I told you. I've lived in different parts of this country and I definitely saw racism.

4. Oh, and to say there are not cultural differences between the races is just being obtuse. Quit trying to change the terms of whatever the argument is.

Also, I'm not even sure what we are arguing as far as why people choose to live next to people of their own race. It's not always the case and it certainly hasn't always been that way where I've lived.

5. Hah. Nice one. You claim that I'm the one taking cheap shots or whatever, yet you continue to allege that I'm in junior high or high school. Why don't you read the trilogy I'm nearly done with:

Taylor Branch's series on Martin Luther King Jr.
The first book, which is exceptional, though quite long (1,100 pages) won the Pulitzer Prize.

The books are titled:
Pillar of Fire: America in the King Years 1963-65
Parting the Waters: America in the King Years 1954-1963 - I'll put a warning that the first 200 or so pages of this book repeat a bit too much from the first one. I nearly gave up on it because of that, but it picked up after that stage.
At Canaan's Edge: American in the King Years 1965-68

[angola]

... It's interesting that Greekdog brought up the bit about Hispanics being generally conservative, a generalization, sure, but largely true. The same could be said for blacks prior to the 1960's.

... Here is the plan our government probably has for illegal immigrants of Hispanic descent:

... 1. Legalize the lot of them, with amnesty of some kind.

... 2. Watch as they congregate into their own communities, separated from others. This is already the case. Promote this with various free / ultra-cheap housing programs.

... 3. Give them voting rights (expanded from current limitations on legal residents).

... 4. Convince them that they are not earning what they are worth, that they are being used and they are being oppressed by racist white America, huge corporations, Republicans, the whole spiel. Convince them that they deserve more than what they have.

... 5. Launch a campaign to bring about "social justice". Enroll them by the millions into various government programs that will give them more money (for nothing). This is already happening and they aren't even legal yet.

... 5. Come election time, tell them how to vote.

... It worked for blacks in America, worked spectacularly. No reason it shouldn't work again.

...

Holy shit. What?

The reason blacks started voting for Democrats is because of a little thing called the Civil Rights. JFK and LBJ stood up for the black people in this country and made them equal citizens to the white people.

If you were a black person in the 1960s, wouldn't you probably stop voting for Lincoln's party and switch to the party that isn't trying to elect George Wallace (a man who ran for President, before dropping out of the race, on a Segregationist platform)? Wouldn't you vote against a party that trotted out Barry Goldwater who also wanted to keep segregation and was against the Civil Rights bill?

Oh, actually, if you were a black person in the 1960s living in the Deep South, it wouldn't matter who you wanted to vote for, because you weren't allowed to vote.

I really suggest reading that trilogy I suggested to you in my previous post. It sounds like you need some more education as far as what black people have gone through in our nation's history.

[xelabale]

I guess they got fixated again, eh, bogangod?

[Nobunaga]

... It's interesting that Greekdog brought up the bit about Hispanics being generally conservative, a generalization, sure, but largely true. The same could be said for blacks prior to the 1960's.

... Here is the plan our government probably has for illegal immigrants of Hispanic descent:

... 1. Legalize the lot of them, with amnesty of some kind.

... 2. Watch as they congregate into their own communities, separated from others. This is already the case. Promote this with various free / ultra-cheap housing programs.

... 3. Give them voting rights (expanded from current limitations on legal residents).

... 4. Convince them that they are not earning what they are worth, that they are being used and they are being oppressed by racist white America, huge corporations, Republicans, the whole spiel. Convince them that they deserve more than what they have.

... 5. Launch a campaign to bring about "social justice". Enroll them by the millions into various government programs that will give them more money (for nothing). This is already happening and they aren't even legal yet.

... 5. Come election time, tell them how to vote.

... It worked for blacks in America, worked spectacularly. No reason it shouldn't work again.

...

Holy shit. What?

The reason blacks started voting for Democrats is because of a little thing called the Civil Rights. JFK and LBJ stood up for the black people in this country and made them equal citizens to the white people.

If you were a black person in the 1960s, wouldn't you probably stop voting for Lincoln's party and switch to the party that isn't trying to elect George Wallace (a man who ran for President, before dropping out of the race, on a Segregationist platform)? Wouldn't you vote against a party that trotted out Barry Goldwater who also wanted to keep segregation and was against the Civil Rights bill?

Oh, actually, if you were a black person in the 1960s living in the Deep South, it wouldn't matter who you wanted to vote for, because you weren't allowed to vote.

I really suggest reading that trilogy I suggested to you in my previous post. It sounds like you need some more education as far as what black people have gone through in our nation's history.

... They sound like good books and yes, I will try to pick one up during my next library visit. Seriously. MLK was one of the greatest Americans to ever breathe.

... Please note, that the programs implemented to "help" American blacks were implemented mostly during the 60's. Books with timelines ending in the 60's will not address the modern, institutionalized and created dependece we see today.

... And keep in mind, while Democratic politicians may have supported equal rights, they also filled the ranks of America's most vile group of racists (the Ku Klux Klan).

...

[thegreekdog]

Why do African Americans continue to largely vote Democrat?

[pimpdave]

... And keep in mind, while Democratic politicians may have supported equal rights, they also filled the ranks of America's most vile group of racists (the Ku Klux Klan).

Okay, well saying that is about as Valid a Comparison as bringing up that at one time the Republicans were led by Lincoln, as if that has any bearing on what the party does, says, or wants to do anymore.

Besides, if you Republicans were all about Lincoln anymore, which Lincoln would you follow, the Towncar or the Continental?

[angola]

... And keep in mind, while Democratic politicians may have supported equal rights, they also filled the ranks of America's most vile group of racists (the Ku Klux Klan).

...

The Democrats in the South who were in the Ku Klux Klan would be Republicans today. I'm not saying Republicans are in the KKK, just that the 1964 election is when the two parties that we see today changed their values.

Democrats in the South before the Civil Rights Bill are equal to Republicans today and vice versa. Hence in the 1964 election, Strom Thurmond switched from a Democrat to a Republican and put up his support for Barry Goldwater.

So, it is a bit disingenuous to claim that Democrats filled the ranks of American's most vile group of racists.

Oh, and aren't all politicians in this country "Democratic politicians"? Sorry, a pet peeve of mine.

It is the Democrat party, not the Democratic party - though I'm sure some Liberals would argue that point.

[PLAYER57832]

If you seriously believe even a part of that, then you need to go back and reread history, concentrating on the realities of how various minorities have been treated in American and the economic impacts of various immigrant waves. .. or just read below for an extreme "quickie" version (missing a LOT of details, but accurate).

You are joining the classic scenario.. when times get tought, paint a scapegoat and let everyone focus on them instead of the real problem ... people at the top who take far too much for themselves, while leaving the rest in shorts.

... Creating a scapegoat? Who's the scapegoat? I'm blaming you (well, not you personally). Classic pattern? My ass. You're running away from the facts here like our President is running away from Afghanistan.

... Here's the recipe for creating complete dependence on government:

... (NOT temporary) Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Job Opportunities and Basic Skills Training (JOBS), Emergency Assistance to Needy Families with Children (EANF), Section 8 Housing, Food Stamps...

Agree, but we were discussing illegal aliens. Those things are usally only available to citizens, some to LEGAL resident. None are available to illegal aliens.

... Star Parker. You'd love her. From bottom rung moocher class welfare cheat to (semi) successful author. And hey, just like you she has a great deal of animosity for corporations, those "people on the top" you mentioned (but unfortunately she also believes in personal responsibility and sees spirituality and free markets as vehicles to freedom for blacks in America... but maybe you can just ignore those parts).

... She's points out quite beautifuly who perpetrated the system of dependence on American blacks and the very tragic results. It's certanly not "the usual suspects".

Not familiar with her, but if your claim that I don't believe in free markets shows you don't pay close attention.

I want the market to operate, by allowing employers to hire people from other countries when there is a legitimate demand.

... The very same scenario is waiting for Hispanics.

...

[/quote]
Hmm.. funny, seems you left off the word "illegal"

Or didn't you know that most Mexican Americans are actually citizens. Some who's families' residency here probably LONG predate yours. (for one thing, some families have been in what is now the US long before it was part of the US).

See, I started by saying that locking the borders is not the way to solve the illegal immigrant problem and here you come up with some statements about how hispanics are dependent on social services just like blacks were/are. I think you just played your real hand, there.

[PLAYER57832]

Why do African Americans continue to largely vote Democrat?

They are actually moving more and more to the Republicans.

[Nobunaga]

... Try to pay attention, Player.

... These things wait for the Mexicans once they've become legal.

... Still plenty of room on the plantation.

...

[PLAYER57832]

... Try to pay attention, Player.

... These things wait for the Mexicans once they've become legal.

... Still plenty of room on the plantation.

...

Problem is, all of my comments were strictly about ILLEGAL aliens, of ALL RACES. I said nothing about hispanics as a class at all.

[BigBallinStalin]

Hahahaha, this thread has been highly entertaining. It's always fun to see racism being discussed; just looking at the posts alone should be a fair example of America's fixation on race--THEN AGAIN, this group on this website mostly represents a certain type of people, so our experiment group (what's that word,one's control, and the other is...?) is not the best example of the American public at large.

What I've noticed that's most interesting with my fellow countrymen is some of their fixations upon saying which part of Europe they're ancestors came from, then wrongly stating that they're this-this-and this-American.

The definition of an American without the ______-American changes over time. Not too long ago, we had Irish-American, but I'd say now, they're generally accepted as American. But, groups like Chinese, Japanese, and "Africans" have largely been excluded from the "one" American term, for a multitude of reasons that I'll lightly try to delve into.


People miss the point though. For terms of clarity (or perhaps added confusion, depending on how one views race, nationality, etc), I'll see a Chinese and ask them, "How long you been here?" 5 years? 10 years? 30 years? whatever, if you want to be called American, I'll call you American, if you want to be called American-Chinese, I'll call you American-Chinese, but most importantly what's your name?

The name's most important, so forget the rest of that noise. People tend to forget the individual and instead brandish them with labels and over-generalizations followed by a heavy dose of preconceptions, which further adds to the confusion and ignorance and misunderstandings. Just be open-minded, drop the expectations, and go live your life and maybe one can see how similar--and yet, how different we all are, Americans and "non"-Americans ("IT'S US AGAINST THE WORLD!" lol, dont take the quote seriously ).

What's also important and what people tend to forget, is the immediate environment in which you are raised. This is the city, neighborhood, family, friends, acquaintances, and strangers you come into contact with on a regular basis (not to mention this website as well). This upbringing is also a large influence of one's life, which is riddled and not riddled with race. Depends on one's experiences, yes? Sometimes you may perceive that race is a huge issue, or sometimes you may not. Big deal, most arguments previously made can now go away since y'all are right and wrong. There's no clear-cut answer to that, so stop insisting that there is--that would be falling into the footsteps of over-generalization.

Race is and isn't an illogical fixation for America. And, yes, the media and politicians of all races will twist all issues of all races, even individuals like you and I continue to adhere to this principal; we buy the bullshit, but we also perpetuate the myths, ignorance, and preconceptions of others all the time. It happens, it's ok. As long as you're trying to correct this, then it's fine. If not, well then that's that, you know? I can only do so much with my one-man crusade, but it's sufficient as long as others try to lift the nonsense, and attempt to see clearly into things. I'm not saying I possess the ability, but I work on it everyday.

So what's fun? In New Orleans, man, a lot of folks I talk to just joke about these things, because sometimes you can't do much but be laughing your ass off with locals, whether they're black, white, or whatever--sometimes it doesn't matter. What matters is appreciating a good joke with your fellow human beings, appreciating good conversations, and appreciating each other for who they are and what they do.

[Nobunaga]

... OK, somebody tell me WHAT THE HELL is going on here.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... homel.html

... Controversial sheriff is TOLD he cannot conduct raids to grab illegals. He is being investigated for racial profiling. Racial freaking profiling! Not a whole lot of Swedes trying to sneak into the US through the Mexican border last I heard.

... Department of Homeland Security decision to strip him of authority to arrest suspected illegal immigrants based solely on their immigration status

... This is f*cked up. FUBAR, absolutely.

...

[PLAYER57832]

... Controversial sheriff is TOLD he cannot conduct raids to grab illegals. He is being investigated for racial profiling. Racial freaking profiling! Not a whole lot of Swedes trying to sneak into the US through the Mexican border last I heard.
...

There is a lot more to this that that video.

Actually, people here illegally originate from every country in the world, particularly Russia, Ireland, etc. They are hardly just from Mexico AND many do try to cross through Mexico -- or Canada -- or the Airports -- or docks --- Or the seashore.

That you seem to think the problem is just Mexico... again, shows your true feelings far more than your words.

[GabonX]

... Controversial sheriff is TOLD he cannot conduct raids to grab illegals. He is being investigated for racial profiling. Racial freaking profiling! Not a whole lot of Swedes trying to sneak into the US through the Mexican border last I heard.
...

There is a lot more to this that that video.

Actually, people here illegally originate from every country in the world, particularly Russia, Ireland, etc. They are hardly just from Mexico AND many do try to cross through Mexico -- or Canada -- or the Airports -- or docks --- Or the seashore.

That you seem to think the problem is just Mexico... again, shows your true feelings far more than your words.

Anyone who enters this country illegally should be deported.

The problems presented by having an open border with Mexico are not limited to immigration problems.