Apologies

[the yorkist]

my wife (jenny1976) and myself would like to apologise to the players whose games got ruined because of the over zealous multi hunters.

We only joined 2 days, started a few games and just as they got interesting we were both banned without being asked for an explanation presumably because we share the same computer.

We are not multi's but nevertheless some games got ruined because of it

[#1_stunna]

e ticket

[the yorkist]

e ticket

doh, why do you think I am back and able to apologise.....besides how many of the players in the games that were ruined would see an eticket!

This is not a complaint but an apology to the players whose games were unecessarily ruined, please explain how an eticket would achieve that?

[#1_stunna]

oh

my apology then

good luck

maybe your stay here at conquer club will be longer than your last visit.

[haggispittjr]

you gotta admit it was pretty suspicious, two people joining near the same time, same place and then playing games together.

[the yorkist]

you gotta admit it was pretty suspicious, two people joining near the same time, same place and then playing games together.

ah no, I made a point of not playing games together. We played separately, never in the same game. check out the games

[#1_stunna]

just how the cookie crumbles

[targetman377]

they do random searches to make sure there are not mulits your just probably signaled a red flag.

[Hsur]

Did you have to change usernames?

[owenshooter]

i don't know how sincere your apology is, since you admitted you are a cheat in another thread you made:

Subject: Reverse the immediate banning of multi's

Players, who multi in order to get round the 4 game rule are not cheaters, at least not in game, provided they do not play 2 or more accounts in the same game in order to improve their chances of winning. When accused you should always be given a chance to prove your innocense before being punished.

you just admitted that you are a multi. so, i hope they deal with you and your "wife" again. creating another account to get around the 4 game rule, even if you don't play against your other account, is against the rules. you deserved the ban, and you just proved it with this post. way to hang yourself...-0

[ronsizzle]

i don't know how sincere your apology is, since you admitted you are a cheat in another thread you made:

Subject: Reverse the immediate banning of multi's

Players, who multi in order to get round the 4 game rule are not cheaters, at least not in game, provided they do not play 2 or more accounts in the same game in order to improve their chances of winning. When accused you should always be given a chance to prove your innocense before being punished.

you just admitted that you are a multi. so, i hope they deal with you and your "wife" again. creating another account to get around the 4 game rule, even if you don't play against your other account, is against the rules. you deserved the ban, and you just proved it with this post. way to hang yourself...-0

i happen to agree with owen.

[Timminz]

i don't know how sincere your apology is, since you admitted you are a cheat in another thread you made:

Subject: Reverse the immediate banning of multi's

Players, who multi in order to get round the 4 game rule are not cheaters, at least not in game, provided they do not play 2 or more accounts in the same game in order to improve their chances of winning. When accused you should always be given a chance to prove your innocense before being punished.

you just admitted that you are a multi. so, i hope they deal with you and your "wife" again. creating another account to get around the 4 game rule, even if you don't play against your other account, is against the rules. you deserved the ban, and you just proved it with this post. way to hang yourself...-0

i happen to agree with owen.

You've picked a hilarious time to do so.

whoops, took your comments out of context

[owenshooter]

whoops, took your comments out of context, my bad. i understand your point, however, i still think the auto-kicking is far better than allowing the games to be played out. before, a multi would be busted and allowed to play out their games. this meant lost points to legit players that were following the rules. the few that are penalized incorrectly is a small price to pay for the hundreds that are kicked every single day. you were reinstated after a very short time, and there isn't any major damage done to you or your wife's accounts. sorry it happened to you, but i would prefer a few being inconvenienced versus having 100's lose points to cheats in games... stick around and you'll understand my point a bit better when you get some rank, some points, and bump into a few cheats... sorry for taking your post out of context!!-0

[porkenbeans]

If in fact it is true, that you and your "wife" did NOT play in any games together, then I can infer that there was no cheating really going on. That said, I do not believe that you were trying to rape points from others, but you must realize that the hunters have a very difficult job, and the rules are there for a good reason. If you hang around long enough you will eventually get raped yourself by a multi. Then you will understand firsthand, why these rules are in place.
Welcome to Conquer Club. Have fun, and just chalk this one up to lessons learned.

[the yorkist]

Yes, multi hunters, like real life judges have a very difficult job to do. But you would not see a real life judge sentencing anyone until they have been allowed to defend themselves.

My wife and I were sentenced (banned) first then got an opportunity to defend ourselves and thus convinced the multi hunters that we were genuine, thus the ban got lifted and we were released. This still does not excuse the destruction of all our games.

It is a big deal for me because my wife now does not want anything to do with this site and i was so looking forward to playing in the same doubles team as her.

As for me, even though I have been able to start games for the last 24 hours I have not done so, as I have lost a lot of the enthusiasm for the game. Will I play again? I really do not know, probably.

[jaseleo]

The guy has a good point even if he was confirmed a multi he was guilty before proven guilty/innocent. No due diligence in checking out peoples account by the multi hunters could stop future players joining the site or upgrading to premium, most freemiums are 24 hour turns so there is plenty of time to check out the user and ban them accordingly without damaging games.

[porkenbeans]

The guy has a good point even if he was confirmed a multi he was guilty before proven guilty/innocent. No due diligence in checking out peoples account by the multi hunters could stop future players joining the site or upgrading to premium, most freemiums are 24 hour turns so there is plenty of time to check out the user and ban them accordingly without damaging games.

Not true, He was proven to have multiple accounts. However, his multi accounts were apparently NOT in any of the same games together. So, It may be better in this kind of case, to let him play out the games, and then close one of the accounts out.
Now he has mentioned the idea of a person opening up more than one account, to get around the 4 game limit. I do not know if this is actually what he was intending, or not. Either way, my hat is off to the hunters, for catching it so quickly. This has given me more confidence in the system.

[the yorkist]

Not true, He was proven to have multiple accounts. However, his multi accounts were apparently NOT in any of the same games together.

eh? I beg your pardon.... If I were a proven multi then both this account and my wife's account would be perma banned, both have been reinstated on investigation and that is because the multi hunters have accepted that we are 2 different people.....so please watch who you accuse.

[porkenbeans]

Not true, He was proven to have multiple accounts. However, his multi accounts were apparently NOT in any of the same games together.

eh? I beg your pardon.... If I were a proven multi then both this account and my wife's account would be perma banned, both have been reinstated on investigation and that is because the multi hunters have accepted that we are 2 different people.....so please watch who you accuse.

Please go back and read the rules of the site. I seem to remember something about it being against the rules to have multiple accounts registered from the same IP address. -Hence the term "multi". Like it or not you are guilty of this offense, and you HAVE already been proven to be a multi. The only reason that you have NOT been perma-banned is because there might be a chance that you were not trying to cheat players out of points. The hunters realize this, and are being somewhat kind in your case.
You are new to CC, and just do not know how destructive these multies can be to a gaming site. They drive away paying customers, and they (if allowed to remain) can prompt others to do the same.
Please try to look at it from the honest players point of view. You just might understand why this rule is important, and you just might offer an apology to them. You got started off on the wrong foot, but that does not mean that you can not become a welcomed member of the community. Just offer your "my bad" and drop the protest.
Again, I welcome you aboard. Have fun, and I will see you on the battlefield.

[the yorkist]

Not true, He was proven to have multiple accounts. However, his multi accounts were apparently NOT in any of the same games together.

eh? I beg your pardon.... If I were a proven multi then both this account and my wife's account would be perma banned, both have been reinstated on investigation and that is because the multi hunters have accepted that we are 2 different people.....so please watch who you accuse.

Please go back and read the rules of the site. I seem to remember something about it being against the rules to have multiple accounts registered from the same IP address.

eh? then its your bad, nowhere does it say that, if you disagree then perhaps you could show me where it does??? I can show you where it does state that family members can play - try here

About the rules

13. Can more than one person play from the same computer?

The short answer is yes. Our Multi Hunters are pretty good at distinguishing roommates & family members from people with multiple accounts. However, some members prefer playing only in team games with people from the same computer to avoid accusations of cheating.

perhaps I could ask you refrain from insane accusations unless you can back them up with facts.....

You are new to CC, and just do not know how destructive these multies can be to a gaming site. They drive away paying customers

posts like yours are much more likely to drive away paying customers and are not helpful when I am trying to get my wife to join in again

Again, I welcome you aboard. Have fun, and I will see you on the battlefield.

no you won't, I will not play with bigots, you would no doubt accuse me of secret alliances when i beat your ass.

[porkenbeans]

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

Seems pretty clear to me.

PS. I never accused you of anything brother. Only stated the facts- You were caught with multi account. PERIOD.

PSS. there is no need to call me names. "Bigot" ? -are you serious ?
I was trying to be nice to you.

[the yorkist]

PS. I never accused you of anything brother. Only stated the facts- You were caught with multi account. PERIOD.

No I was not! look, I will try once again to get this message inside your skull.

I joined to play a few games, my wife joined to play a few games....perfectly legal. The mods decided to ban us both cos they suspected that both accounts were being played by the same person. THEY WERE NOT!

I protested, and the mods agreed with me and unbanned BOTH accounts. Now my wife can play 4 games and so can I. Just cos we play from the same computer does not make us bloody multis!

Now, have you got that?

[porkenbeans]

PS. I never accused you of anything brother. Only stated the facts- You were caught with multi account. PERIOD.

No I was not! look, I will try once again to get this message inside your skull.

I joined to play a few games, my wife joined to play a few games....perfectly legal. The mods decided to ban us both cos they suspected that both accounts were being played by the same person. THEY WERE NOT!

I protested, and the mods agreed with me and unbanned BOTH accounts. Now my wife can play 4 games and so can I. Just cos we play from the same computer does not make us bloody multis!

Now, have you got that?

Read rule #1
The definition of a "multi" is clear. MORE THAN A ACCOUNT FROM THE SAME ADDRESS.
I do not know why you are getting so upset with me. I have already said that I do not believe that you were trying to steal points. But weather or not you played in the same games or not, it does NOT change the fact that you had multiple accounts. It is because you were not in any games together that the mods believe the same thing. Yes, they will sometimes allow for multi accounts in cases like yours, but you must seek permission first. Which you failed to do. Can you not see the need for these rules ?
Please take a chill pill friend. I am NOT accusing you of trying to cheat, only trying to explain to you why the rules are there. You should not be upset with the mods for banning you, or me for trying to explain it all for you. You should have asked for permission before you opened a second account. If you had read rule #1, this would have been apparent to you. But instead you thought that you could just sneak around the rules. I am done trying to be nice to you because you are not taking it the way I have intended.

PS. Loose the chip on your shoulder.

[the yorkist]

The definition of a "multi" is clear. MORE THAN A ACCOUNT FROM THE SAME ADDRESS.

sigh, wrong again. If that were the case then they are plenty of multis playing. The rule is - only 1 account per person, not per ip address.

I knew from earlier posts you were a bigot, now you have just proved yourself a retard too, by not understanding simple english words when joined together.....and I make it a rule not to argue with retards cos they are incapable of logical discussion. Therefore this will be my last post here....so go ahead and have the final say - RETARD!

i WON'T EVEN BE BOTHERED TO READ IT!

[Gypsys Kiss]

PS. I never accused you of anything brother. Only stated the facts- You were caught with multi account. PERIOD.

No I was not! look, I will try once again to get this message inside your skull.

I joined to play a few games, my wife joined to play a few games....perfectly legal. The mods decided to ban us both cos they suspected that both accounts were being played by the same person. THEY WERE NOT!

I protested, and the mods agreed with me and unbanned BOTH accounts. Now my wife can play 4 games and so can I. Just cos we play from the same computer does not make us bloody multis!

Now, have you got that?

Read rule #1
The definition of a "multi" is clear. MORE THAN A ACCOUNT FROM THE SAME ADDRESS.
I do not know why you are getting so upset with me. I have already said that I do not believe that you were trying to steal points. But weather or not you played in the same games or not, it does NOT change the fact that you had multiple accounts. It is because you were not in any games together that the mods believe the same thing. Yes, they will sometimes allow for multi accounts in cases like yours, but you must seek permission first. Which you failed to do. Can you not see the need for these rules ?
Please take a chill pill friend. I am NOT accusing you of trying to cheat, only trying to explain to you why the rules are there. You should not be upset with the mods for banning you, or me for trying to explain it all for you. You should have asked for permission before you opened a second account. If you had read rule #1, this would have been apparent to you. But instead you thought that you could just sneak around the rules. I am done trying to be nice to you because you are not taking it the way I have intended.

PS. Loose the chip on your shoulder.

No. You are wrong. The definition of a "multi" is a "person" with multiple accounts, not a computer. Nowhere in RULE No. 1 does it say anything about sharing the same address with a loved one. Unless your understanding of English diifers from mine. Just so you dont have to search, here it is......

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.