RATM for British XMAS No.1

[nagerous]

f*ck Simon Cowell I won't do what ya tell me, yeah!

Buy Killing in the name of... from the 13th December onwards on iTunes to make it number one, it can beat the X-Factor shit.

Join the facebook group for more details. Over 200,000 members so far.

[khazalid]

more like 'f*ck you ma i won't do my laundry'



FAIL!

[nagerous]

more like 'f*ck you ma i won't do my laundry'



FAIL!

What are you talking about? Wouldn't you rather see a band like RATM get the no.1 as a giant 'f*ck you' to the commercialised music industry... or are you just another mindless drone voting for a crappy X factor song. Capitalists like Simon Cowell have dominated the charts for years, let the people speak!

[radiojake]

that might have been well and good 10 years ago, but RATM are completely void of any purposeful meaning nowadays..

they are just another cog in the capitalist music industry...

when they did their reunion show in Australia last year, the tickets we're $110 and they sold out in 5 mins, creating a scalping frenzy that saw tickets go for $250, that sounds like a band that likes to keep extreme money out of music..

"f*ck you, I won't do what you tell me?" - except that they did a radio edit of the song without this line so it could get on the radio because the record company told them too...

Remember kids.. rebellion is a comodity that is sold to the highest bidder

[nagerous]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbi ... k_Campaign

[radiojake]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/X-Factor-Could-Be-Beaten-To-Christmas-Number-One-By-Anti-Simon-Cowell-Facebook-Campaign/Article/200912115491121?lpos=Showbiz_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15491121_X_Factor_Could_Be_Beaten_To_Christmas_Number_One_By_Anti-Simon_Cowell_Facebook_Campaign

So who set this campaign up? RATM's management?

I just don't understand the point of it. #1 on the chart has never been music I've associated with, it's always been bought.. either by commercial radio stations flogging a song and telling all the mindless sheep who listen that this song is a 'monster hit' or by crappy Idol/Xfactor type shows.

This campaign seems counterproductive...

I like my music fast, loud and completely underground... who gives a shit what the #1 song is? There hasn't been a good #1 song for so fucking long that the whole system is a joke.. and mass purchasing a song on ITUNES*TRADEMARK APPLE INC is hardly the way to make a stand against music capitalism...

[nagerous]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/X-Factor-Could-Be-Beaten-To-Christmas-Number-One-By-Anti-Simon-Cowell-Facebook-Campaign/Article/200912115491121?lpos=Showbiz_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15491121_X_Factor_Could_Be_Beaten_To_Christmas_Number_One_By_Anti-Simon_Cowell_Facebook_Campaign

So who set this campaign up? RATM's management?

I just don't understand the point of it. #1 on the chart has never been music I've associated with, it's always been bought.. either by commercial radio stations flogging a song and telling all the mindless sheep who listen that this song is a 'monster hit' or by crappy Idol/Xfactor type shows.

This campaign seems counterproductive...

I like my music fast, loud and completely underground... who gives a shit what the #1 song is? There hasn't been a good #1 song for so fucking long that the whole system is a joke.. and mass purchasing a song on ITUNES*TRADEMARK APPLE INC is hardly the way to make a stand against music capitalism...

RaTm certainly did not set this up, this was an idea of one individual who decided to make a facebook group and get all his friends to join and word rapidly spread around the country. I get what you saying about it potentially being a hollow victory, but I think you're being un-necessarily negative. You don't know the state of the commercialisation of the music industry by moguls like Cowell who churn out tune after tune of monotony of not real music to add to his expanisve riches. Artists like Chico and 'Jedward' who produce utter pieces of crap music and gain success from it through the monopolisation of chart radio. This is the British people's response to such domination, a song which chants 'f*ck you I won't do what you tell me.' I'm surprised this has received that much criticism here, as I think this is an awesome campaign, one that I fully endorse anyway.

[radiojake]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/X-Factor-Could-Be-Beaten-To-Christmas-Number-One-By-Anti-Simon-Cowell-Facebook-Campaign/Article/200912115491121?lpos=Showbiz_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15491121_X_Factor_Could_Be_Beaten_To_Christmas_Number_One_By_Anti-Simon_Cowell_Facebook_Campaign

So who set this campaign up? RATM's management?

I just don't understand the point of it. #1 on the chart has never been music I've associated with, it's always been bought.. either by commercial radio stations flogging a song and telling all the mindless sheep who listen that this song is a 'monster hit' or by crappy Idol/Xfactor type shows.

This campaign seems counterproductive...

I like my music fast, loud and completely underground... who gives a shit what the #1 song is? There hasn't been a good #1 song for so fucking long that the whole system is a joke.. and mass purchasing a song on ITUNES*TRADEMARK APPLE INC is hardly the way to make a stand against music capitalism...

RaTm certainly did not set this up, this was an idea of one individual who decided to make a facebook group and get all his friends to join and word rapidly spread around the country. I get what you saying about it potentially being a hollow victory, but I think you're being un-necessarily negative. You don't know the state of the commercialisation of the music industry by moguls like Cowell who churn out tune after tune of monotony of not real music to add to his expanisve riches. Artists like Chico and 'Jedward' who produce utter pieces of crap music and gain success from it through the monopolisation of chart radio. This is the British people's response to such domination, a song which chants 'f*ck you I won't do what you tell me.' I'm surprised this has received that much criticism here, as I think this is an awesome campaign, one that I fully endorse anyway.

Yes, we all know that the music Simon Cowell produces is utter garbage. But I also know that pretty much 95% of the music on the charts is utter garbage. I also know that this campaign to get RATM to #1 on the charts won't actually stop any deuche bag purchasing any of Simon Cowell's crappy music, infact, all it will do is to create more revenue for Itunes and RATM -

So what can we achieve by all of this... well, if RATM does get to #1, Cowell will have to settle for a #2 (though, I doubt he'd be highly bothered by this, considering that the sales of his crap karoke singers would be the same either way, they just wouldn't have the title of #1)

I knew I would get the 'negative' call for this.. and I am normally all for a good boycott, and I don't consider myself apathetic at all, but campaigning (on stalk-book, no less) to try to get a 15 year old song to number #1 by purchasing the single on iTunes is not the way to send a message to Cowell. Infact, I would assume that most people who would want to do this would already own a copy of the song "Killing In The Name Of...", which makes the whole process even more absurd.

In summary, mass purchasing a single on iTunes is NOT the way to combat music mogul/capitalism, infact, this will only contribute to the machine.. (the very one that we're supposed to be raging against)

[khazalid]

the very crux of modern advertisement is based on the premise of individualism. you're always a target market. whether zac really did hate doing his laundry in the beginning or not, one thing's for sure - his hispanic cleaner does it now. consider the irony of it all, a badly worded anti-capitalist diatribe charting at no.1 in the midst of the greatest festival of consumerism of the year. and this is somehow equating to sticking a finger up at the 'capitalist' music establishment how? steal all your xmas presents or take your dick out in the middle of the waitrose turkey section instead!

[Pedronicus]

just wait untll cliff takes the away in a manger tune, sings robbie williams's angel over it and gets terry wogan to flog it to death in the morning before he retires.
no one could stop that juggernaut

[nagerous]

just wait untll cliff takes the away in a manger tune, sings robbie williams's angel over it and gets terry wogan to flog it to death in the morning before he retires.
no one could stop that juggernaut

You should contact the respective parties with that idea and go make a mint.

[Pedronicus]

just wait untll cliff takes the away in a manger tune, sings robbie williams's angel over it and gets terry wogan to flog it to death in the morning before he retires.
no one could stop that juggernaut

You should contact the respective parties with that idea and go make a mint.

Cliff Richard is a bible bashing, shit stabbing, cunt and I hope he looses his tongue in a farmyard threshing machine. I'd rather die poor and happy, rather than listen to any more of his poxy records.

[Timminz]

This appears to be a Brit-centric event. Would my buying it, in Canada, affect the desired chart? Also, would buying the whole album count? I seem to have lost my copy.

[BigBallinStalin]

This appears to be a Brit-centric event. Would my buying it, in Canada, affect the desired chart? Also, would buying the whole album count? I seem to have lost my copy.

Or you could take the "f*ck you capitalist pigs" route and just download it illegally...

[Timminz]

This appears to be a Brit-centric event. Would my buying it, in Canada, affect the desired chart? Also, would buying the whole album count? I seem to have lost my copy.

Or you could take the "f*ck you capitalist pigs" route and just download it illegally...

Believe me, normally I would. Especially seeing as I've already paid for the album once. A month or so, ago I picked up an iTunes gift card, with the intention of using it to purchase apps for my iPhone. Then I discovered that you cannot use gift cards to purchase software (at least in Canada). So, my money is already spent, and there is nothing on iTunes that I can't get for free easily, so I figure this would be as good a use as any.

[nagerous]

This appears to be a Brit-centric event. Would my buying it, in Canada, affect the desired chart? Also, would buying the whole album count? I seem to have lost my copy.

Or you could take the "f*ck you capitalist pigs" route and just download it illegally...

Believe me, normally I would. Especially seeing as I've already paid for the album once. A month or so, ago I picked up an iTunes gift card, with the intention of using it to purchase apps for my iPhone. Then I discovered that you cannot use gift cards to purchase software (at least in Canada). So, my money is already spent, and there is nothing on iTunes that I can't get for free easily, so I figure this would be as good a use as any.

Ironically that is the only reason I am doing it too as my work gifted me a £25 itunes voucher as a leaving present, which I haven't fully spent yet.

[Serbia]

Well I support this. I just bought the disc 2 weeks ago in fact.

[AlgyTaylor]

I like my music fast, loud and completely underground... who gives a shit what the #1 song is? There hasn't been a good #1 song for so fucking long that the whole system is a joke.. and mass purchasing a song on ITUNES*TRADEMARK APPLE INC is hardly the way to make a stand against music capitalism...

This.

[pimpdave]

Born with insight and a raised fist
A witness to the slit wrist, that's wit

[xelabale]

the very crux of modern advertisement is based on the premise of individualism. you're always a target market. whether zac really did hate doing his laundry in the beginning or not, one thing's for sure - his hispanic cleaner does it now. consider the irony of it all, a badly worded anti-capitalist diatribe charting at no.1 in the midst of the greatest festival of consumerism of the year. and this is somehow equating to sticking a finger up at the 'capitalist' music establishment how? steal all your xmas presents or take your dick out in the middle of the waitrose turkey section instead!

plus 1 khazalid.

f*ck, the nearest waitrose is 1000s of miles away. Will Migros do instead?

[nagerous]

Well power what the people say worked.

We got it to number 1

[radiojake]

well, congratulations

rebellion is now offically bought and sold through apples*inc

what a fucking joke

[nagerous]

Was it all that worthless?
http://www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas

[Neoteny]

For the record, I'm not so cynical about popular music, but I find it hard to justify doing this. It's basically just to prove the point that people have different tastes, and most casual music listeners listen to similar stuff. Rage has some good stuff, sure, but it's not like they're trying to target the same audience (or even a similar sized audience) than X-factor or whatever (I'm not familiar with the program, but it seems familiar). I imagine there are better things the money could have gone to. Perhaps an artist who isn't as well off as the Rage guys are...

[Serbia]

I'm pretty happy about Rage winning it. X-Factor music, being like our American Idol, is just a creation of Simon Cowell and the whole machine that's churning out the same nonsense they've been feeding people for years, that people just go out and snap up. So if someone wants to organize a 'rebellion' to say "hey, we don't care about your stupid music, so we'll bully a nearly 20 year old song up to the top, just because we can", I don't have a problem with it. I would have been just as happy had they force a Michael Jackson song to the top (even though I can't stand Jacko or his music) JUST to beat out X-Factor. I think the whole idea is just an awesome one. One guy with an idea, not even expecting to make any type of difference, went out and made international news, getting millions of people to agree with him and upset a whole industry. And that is what is cool. For me, it's not so much about making money, or raging against anything in particular, but more showing ourselves exactly what is possible when you unite and do something for a cause, even in something as insignificant to ourselves as what song is number 1 at Christmas time (and for me, in a country that I'm only visiting in).