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CC's stance on swastikas

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:55 am

Just out of curiousity- why does CC have such a harsh stance on swastikas? A swastika, in a nutshell, is a shape used to symbolize a certain organization that stands up for what they see as social, political and racial injustices, don't we all have that right? To stand up for what we believe in? Indeed swastikas are associated with Nazism, but can't anyone see the bigger picture? For example; modern day Neo-Nazis; are they still known as pure anti-semitists? NO. Maybe there are still groups existing today that carry on that line, but what about the ones that fight against things like prostitution and homosexuality- I think those are very fair causes. A swastika can be used to identify people amongst us who agree with the same concepts as others- it is no longer an 'object that means you hate Jews and love Hitler', that is one of the biggest generalizations out there. As for them being offensive, that's complete bollocks- more people would be offended by avatars with bad world influences such as Homer Simpson, or avatars with women displayed as sex objects. Heck, country flags and sporting team logos would cause more fury if people could grasp the idea that a swastika isn't an identification key for cold blooded, Jew killing Nazis. Stop playing the pathetic 'I am offended!' card- decades later, it's getting VERY old now.
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Re: CC's stance on swastikas

Postby jefjef on Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:59 am

Huh. Why is it after I read this I see C Manson?

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Re: CC's stance on swastikas

Postby Woodruff on Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:16 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:Just out of curiousity- why does CC have such a harsh stance on swastikas? A swastika, in a nutshell, is a shape used to symbolize a certain organization that stands up for what they see as social, political and racial injustices, don't we all have that right? To stand up for what we believe in? Indeed swastikas are associated with Nazism, but can't anyone see the bigger picture? For example; modern day Neo-Nazis; are they still known as pure anti-semitists? NO. Maybe there are still groups existing today that carry on that line, but what about the ones that fight against things like prostitution and homosexuality- I think those are very fair causes. A swastika can be used to identify people amongst us who agree with the same concepts as others- it is no longer an 'object that means you hate Jews and love Hitler', that is one of the biggest generalizations out there. As for them being offensive, that's complete bollocks- more people would be offended by avatars with bad world influences such as Homer Simpson, or avatars with women displayed as sex objects. Heck, country flags and sporting team logos would cause more fury if people could grasp the idea that a swastika isn't an identification key for cold blooded, Jew killing Nazis. Stop playing the pathetic 'I am offended!' card- decades later, it's getting VERY old now.


To be honest, if someone in modern times selects a swastika as their "symbol", they're not trying to imply that they're nice guys who have only others' best interests at heart.
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Re: CC's stance on swastikas

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:22 am

Woodruff wrote:
To be honest, if someone in modern times selects a swastika as their "symbol", they're not trying to imply that they're nice guys who have only others' best interests at heart.


Ah, do not make light of what I said. You are confusing the adjectives 'nice', with 'right'. Not all that is just is nice.
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Re: CC's stance on swastikas

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:56 am

I would almost let this pass, but a few things clearly gave you away.


First the swastika represents political organizations, then religions. Make up your mind or make it clear which you are talking about. As for the political organizations, most of them do indeed stand up for social injustices.

There's no "maybe" about neo-Nazi groups being antisemitic, the majority are.

Modern day Neo-Nazi's "fight against homosexuality" seems to consist of demanding it be made illegal and to beat up gays whenever they find them. A very fair cause indeed.



CC's stance on swastikas in a nutshell: if you start posting images of black swastikas with the arms turned clockwise, tilted 45° on a white background with a red border, you are definitely up to no good. Posting other versions of swastikas all over the place means you are almost certainly up to no good and spamming.

You, on the other hand, are trolling and will be hammered, this thread will be locked.
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