Dice

hoytdwow · Post by **hoytdwow** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:53 am

I defy anyone to produce a real world scenario in which 2 beat 11.

that's all I have to say.

Army of GOD · Post by **Army of GOD** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:26 am

Battle of Thermopylae was like a 5 v. 100 and brought the 100 down to like 75

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:28 am

If i had the time, and could throw the amount of dice that have been chucked on this game since the beginning, i would. And i'm sure i'd have a pretty good chance to

khazalid · Post by **khazalid** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:58 am

hoytdwow wrote:I defy anyone to produce a real world scenario in which 2 beat 11.

that's all I have to say.

i defy you to produce a CC scenario in which that actually happened.

Fruitcake · Post by **Fruitcake** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:23 am

khazalid wrote:
hoytdwow wrote:I defy anyone to produce a real world scenario in which 2 beat 11.

that's all I have to say.

i defy you to produce a CC scenario in which that actually happened.

I have seen 3 (2 attack dice) take down 9.

I would be highly surprised if 2 (1 attack dice) managed to take down 11...but then this is the wacky world of cc.

Fruitcake · Post by **Fruitcake** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:26 am

On reflection, wasn't there a game some time back where one player almost managed to clear the board on his first turn? This would have necessitated a series of wins with 2 attackers (so 2 dice) against a bunch of 3 defender territs.

Beckytheblondie · Post by **Beckytheblondie** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:35 am

My big sister and I were walking down the train tracks when 11 thugs approached and demanded our souls. We fought them off with martial arts, the banana in my sister's lunch bag and with a tenacious desire to get to the other side of the tracks. It's true. It happened. We won.

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:58 am

No. 2 Kansas Outlasts No. 11 Kansas State in Overtime

0wn3d

Beckytheblondie · Post by **Beckytheblondie** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:01 pm

Mine's better. Why aren't you at school?

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:03 pm

Beckytheblondie wrote:Mine's better. Why aren't you at school?

2 stomach viruses beat 11 of my internal organs' cell membranes.

Johnny Rockets · Post by **Johnny Rockets** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:04 pm

There isn't one.

The sooner you accept that the dice are fucked, the sooner you start to refine a strategy that includes that factor in your play. The wins will follow.

Unless your a speed doodle addict like yours truly then you are banished to the stripers catagory for the rest of your C.C. life.

Johnny Rockets

Georgerx7di · Post by **Georgerx7di** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:06 pm

hoytdwow wrote:I defy anyone to produce a real world scenario in which 2 beat 11.

that's all I have to say.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Legends-of-Texa ... offee-Hays

Read down to the part where 14 men fight off 200. That is about 14.3 to 1, or 28.6 to 2 just to compare to your 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

Here's another one, this was on the other side of the world, but coincidentally in the same time period.

I looked for things like the battle of Issus, but historians no longer think that the Persians actually had 600,000 or even 400,000, still Alexander was no doubt out numbered. I'll try to find some more for you when I have more time.

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:10 pm

Georgerx7di wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

Erm, 20k beat 1,300 here. Nothing special

hoytdwow · Post by **hoytdwow** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:15 pm

Army of GOD wrote:Battle of Thermopylae was like a 5 v. 100 and brought the 100 down to like 75

using dice?

hoytdwow · Post by **hoytdwow** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:15 pm

Ronaldinho wrote:If i had the time, and could throw the amount of dice that have been chucked on this game since the beginning, i would. And i'm sure i'd have a pretty good chance to

I said real world scenario

hoytdwow · Post by **hoytdwow** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:17 pm

khazalid wrote:
hoytdwow wrote:I defy anyone to produce a real world scenario in which 2 beat 11.

that's all I have to say.

i defy you to produce a CC scenario in which that actually happened.

It happened on my 2nd turn in this game: 6445899

11 of my men vs. 2 neutrals. I lost all 11 men, neutrals lost none, and, no, I didn't use auto assault.

Beckytheblondie · Post by **Beckytheblondie** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:25 pm

hoytdwow wrote:
khazalid wrote:
hoytdwow wrote:I defy anyone to produce a real world scenario in which 2 beat 11.

that's all I have to say.

i defy you to produce a CC scenario in which that actually happened.
It happened on my 2nd turn in this game: 6445899

11 of my men vs. 2 neutrals. I lost all 11 men, neutrals lost none, and, no, I didn't use auto assault.

2 beating 11 is much different than 11 losing to 2 (with dice) You should have stopped when you got to 3v2

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:30 pm

hoytdwow wrote:
Ronaldinho wrote:If i had the time, and could throw the amount of dice that have been chucked on this game since the beginning, i would. And i'm sure i'd have a pretty good chance to
I said real world scenario

that is a real world scenario

at the same time, I believe it is more likely you are making a mistake than a 2 actually having beat a 9

and dont take that the wrong way...what I mean is...I agree the odds of a 2 killing a 9 are ridiculously small...to the point where I barely believe it happened...even though, it obviously would happen, if enough people actually tried to do it. Hell...it might even happen the first time someone tried...regardless of the odds that are on the rather minute side.

Right up there with the real life examples of people winning the lottery with infinitesimal odds: Twice.

trapyoung · Post by **trapyoung** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:49 pm

Fruitcake wrote:On reflection, wasn't there a game some time back where one player almost managed to clear the board on his first turn? This would have necessitated a series of wins with 2 attackers (so 2 dice) against a bunch of 3 defender territs.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1675072

Fruitcake · Post by **Fruitcake** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:27 pm

In Game 1675072, a classic map game.

This happened:

2008-01-26 05:40:32 - Game has been initialized
2008-01-26 07:06:30 - HELLS ANGEL received 4 troops for 14 regions
2008-01-26 07:06:55 - HELLS ANGEL deployed 4 troops on Sao Paulo
2008-01-26 07:07:15 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Bogota from Sao Paulo and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:07:33 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Dakar from Sao Paulo and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:07:53 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Cairo from Dakar and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:08:10 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Dubai from Cairo and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:08:25 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Delhi from Dubai and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:08:51 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Astana from Novosibirsk and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:09:15 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Montreal from New York and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:09:51 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Magadan from Tokyo and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:10:17 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Beijing from Magadan and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:10:55 - HELLS ANGEL assaulted Jakarta from Bangkok and conquered it from Knight2254
2008-01-26 07:13:34 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 1 troops from Astana
2008-01-26 07:13:42 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 1 troops from Delhi
2008-01-26 07:14:00 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 2 troops from Vancouver
2008-01-26 07:14:13 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 1 troops from Reykjavik
2008-01-26 07:14:28 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 1 troops from Montreal
2008-01-26 07:14:38 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 1 troops from Reykjavik
2008-01-26 07:14:58 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 2 troops from London
2008-01-26 07:15:12 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 2 troops from Berlin
2008-01-26 07:15:26 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 2 troops from Istanbul
2008-01-26 07:15:42 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Sao Paulo with 2 troops from Madrid
2008-01-26 07:16:25 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Bogota with 9 troops from Sao Paulo
2008-01-26 07:16:49 - HELLS ANGEL reinforced Dakar with 6 troops from Sao Paulo

hoytdwow · Post by **hoytdwow** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:24 pm

I'll try again, because citing equivalent CC examples of the dice absurdity is not what I originally posed. Nor is citing the outcomes of historical sword and armor battles.

I defy anyone to produce a REAL WORLD scenario where 11 beats 2.

Meaning, take 2 human beings, give one 3 dice; give the other 2 dice and try to get the result where 11 beats 2.

ChocolatePudding · Post by **ChocolatePudding** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:27 pm

hoytdwow wrote:I'll try again, because citing equivalent CC examples of the dice absurdity is not what I originally posed. Nor is citing the outcomes of historical sword and armor battles.

I defy anyone to produce a REAL WORLD scenario where 11 beats 2.

Meaning, take 2 human beings, give one 3 dice; give the other 2 dice and try to get the result where 11 beats 2.

I'm pretty sure 11 beats 2 quite a lot.

Army of GOD · Post by **Army of GOD** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:40 pm

It depends on how well the 2 are at killing people with their dice. Maybe one shot to the head with them and they'd die or something....

seandrhodes · Post by **seandrhodes** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:48 am

In the real world, The Battle of Watling Street where 10,000 Romans slaughtered 100,000 Britons led by Boudica.

jimboston · Post by **jimboston** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:10 pm

Another post where someone is bitchin' about their dice.

We are now up to 157863 unique threads about the "bad dice" here.

(Yes that is a made up number.)

Please read my reply to earlier post on this subject...
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 6&t=108977

If you sat thousands of groups of people down and had them roll dice over and over in the scenario you mention for a couple days... you will likely get that result a few times over.

This is essentially what another/earlier poster said... but he didn't spell it out for a 5th grader.

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