DPRK First Nation to Achieve Fusion: May 12, 2010

[jefjef]

Hi saxi! Glad to see you in your usual good spirits!

Good news from AMERICAN capitalists for your friends at DPRK!

We are considering sending them 5 billion dollars to promote world safety!

[army of nobunaga]

noone takes north korea serious... well not super serious. Well actually the US army takes them very serious. But other than they, you have a republic that jsut spouts off when ever they need food.


They need food atm.



In 6 months they will send another rocket towards japan.... and guess what... they will need food.


just feed these motherfrickers.... feed them permanently with "us" vouchers and independent companys that cash in these "vouchers" there. and in 5 years we will own NK and be able to give them to the south.

Im not coming out of my ass with this. Sat through a dry talk from a NK expert... he proposed this. Controversial.... but everyone in the room after the talk believed... I do still.

[saxitoxin]

Hi saxi! Glad to see you in good spirits as usual!

Good news from AMERICAN capitalists for your friends at DPRK!

We are considering sending them 5 billion dollars to promote world safety!

Well, since the DPRK is less than 10% the population of the United States, warfighting against it should be a fairly simple task if that is the goal. Further, the people of the DPRK, desiring always peace, would have no recourse but to stand in locked armed solidarity and meet bullets with flowers as they choose to invest the fruits of their labors in education and health care with only a small investment in relatively modest self-defense forces, as we used to do in the DDR where the armed-to-teeth "West" German nuclear-armed war machine was simply ignored. Generally speaking, ignoring saber rattling is the best assurance of peace by the more mature power.

Again, let us not forget today is the 30th anniversary of one of the worst civilian massacres perpetrated by the "South" Korean regime in which automatic weapons were used to kill 300 people practicing the free speech the west "cherishes." And yet, surprisingly, it is not mentioned at all in the "free and open" capitalist media on today's anniversary date. Now why is that? LOL (answer: the breathlessly regurgitated assurance of "free and open" media is capitalist propaganda)

[saxitoxin]

GX - let me ask you a question because you are an intelligent and thoughtful erudite.

If, in '07, Condoleeza Rice suddenly, and without warning, resigned as SecState, took her entire immediate family and moved to Iran, would you:
(a) say, "she's gone nutso!"
(b) think, "that was really weird; this causes me to pause and think maybe there's more to some things than I've been told"

I know, from your style of composition here, that you are an intelligent and measured person. For that reason I truly believe you would answer "B." Only a fanatic would say "A" when confronted with such a dramatic event. Now, this never happened and would never have happened so that point may be moot. Except ...

Consider the case of Choe Deok-sin, the former Foreign Minister of "South Korea" - a position he held as a member of the ROK's leading conservative party. Choe fled the ROK and sought asylum as a refugee in the DPRK where he and his family live to this day. And yet, if you bing-dot-com him you will find only scant, paltry references despite the major, historic significance of this event.

There's more going on than the synchronized media are reporting. This doesn't necessarily mean the global Marxist-Leninist struggle is inherently right - I believe it is right, though not "inherently" so. It does, however, portend the need for all people who would like to break free from synchronized thought to discard our preconceptions about "institutional enemies."

(PS - If they ever translate Die Deutsch Karte into English you need to read it. It is another piece in the puzzle written by the whistleblower Gen. Komossa who commanded one of "West" Germany's assorted secret police squads in the 1980's. [For that reason it will probably never, ever get translated/published.])

Regardless of our political notions we must all unite behind the principles of the 1924 Surrealist Manifesto and free ourselves from control mechanisms operated by logic and reason. The Arbeiterstaat of the DDR, for instance, was always as much a grand piece of performance art as it was an operational government.

[jefjef]

Regardless of our political notions we must all unite behind the principles of the 1924 Surrealist Manifesto and free ourselves from control mechanisms operated by logic and reason. The Arbeiterstaat of the DDR, for instance, was always as much a grand piece of performance art as it was an operational government. [/b]

You failed to mention the failure of the DDR. But thats understandable.

As for the paltry references in re of the defection of Choe Deok-sin and family perhaps the only significance about this was for DPRK propaganda. meh.

[Johnny Rockets]

Saxi,

I'm beginning to wonder if you don't start out every morning with a mercury and paint chip smoothie.


Rectally.



Johnny Rockets.

[saxitoxin]

Regardless of our political notions we must all unite behind the principles of the 1924 Surrealist Manifesto and free ourselves from control mechanisms operated by logic and reason. The Arbeiterstaat of the DDR, for instance, was always as much a grand piece of performance art as it was an operational government. [/b]

You failed to mention the failure of the DDR. But thats understandable.

As for the paltry references in re of the defection of Choe Deok-sin and family perhaps the only significance about this was for DPRK propaganda. meh.

Explaining things away through conspiracy theories makes the capitalist position more and more untenable. It is astonishing that, even when presented with the iceberg's tip evidence, some people refuse to unplug from the central synchronizing cables ...

[saxitoxin]

Saxi,

I'm beginning to wonder if you don't start out every morning with a mercury and paint chip smoothie.

Rectally.

Johnny Rockets.

Here comes the Canadian. Have you celebrated the CF shooting any "blackie" [sic] 3rd graders today, JR? (BTW - I heard they were having a sale on KY at Shoppers Drug Mart ... are you going to take advantage of that? )

[jefjef]

Regardless of our political notions we must all unite behind the principles of the 1924 Surrealist Manifesto and free ourselves from control mechanisms operated by logic and reason. The Arbeiterstaat of the DDR, for instance, was always as much a grand piece of performance art as it was an operational government. [/b]

You failed to mention the failure of the DDR. But thats understandable.

As for the paltry references in re of the defection of Choe Deok-sin and family perhaps the only significance about this was for DPRK propaganda. meh.

Explaining things away through conspiracy theories makes the capitalist position more and more untenable. It is astonishing that, even when presented with the iceberg's tip evidence, some people refuse to unplug from the central synchronizing cables ...

As astonishing as those who abstain from acknowledging truth and reality and refusing to unplug from time proven failures. (IE communism/democtratic socialism)

[saxitoxin]

Regardless of our political notions we must all unite behind the principles of the 1924 Surrealist Manifesto and free ourselves from control mechanisms operated by logic and reason. The Arbeiterstaat of the DDR, for instance, was always as much a grand piece of performance art as it was an operational government. [/b]

You failed to mention the failure of the DDR. But thats understandable.

As for the paltry references in re of the defection of Choe Deok-sin and family perhaps the only significance about this was for DPRK propaganda. meh.

Explaining things away through conspiracy theories makes the capitalist position more and more untenable. It is astonishing that, even when presented with the iceberg's tip evidence, some people refuse to unplug from the central synchronizing cables ...

As astonishing as those who abstain from acknowledging truth and reality and refusing to unplug from time proven failures. (IE communism/democtratic socialism)

My experience was that it wasn't a failure but a success.

[jefjef]

As astonishing as those who abstain from acknowledging truth and reality and refusing to unplug from time proven failures. (IE communism/democtratic socialism)

My experience was that it wasn't a failure but a success.

DDR and Soviet Union. Thats a success?

Where are they today?

[saxitoxin]

As astonishing as those who abstain from acknowledging truth and reality and refusing to unplug from time proven failures. (IE communism/democtratic socialism)

My experience was that it wasn't a failure but a success.

DDR and Soviet union. Where are they today?

Thats a success?

They did err and mistakes were made. I can't speak for the USSR - especially as that was a different set of circumstances entirely - but, in the case of the DDR, we dreamed too much and put too much faith and hope that peace would win out. Ultimately that led to the DDR's downfall.

[jefjef]

As astonishing as those who abstain from acknowledging truth and reality and refusing to unplug from time proven failures. (IE communism/democtratic socialism)

My experience was that it wasn't a failure but a success.

DDR and Soviet union. Where are they today?

Thats a success?

They did err and mistakes were made. I can't speak for the USSR - especially as that was a different set of circumstances entirely - but, in the case of the DDR, we dreamed too much and put too much faith and hope that peace would win out. Ultimately that led to the DDR's downfall.

I do not recall that the tearing down of the Berlin wall or the collapse of the DDR and German re unification was anything but peaceful. I spose a protest or two took place. I dunno.

Must be the censorship of the western media that has kept me in the dark or maybe I was just to busy sucking at the teat of capitalism to notice.

Sorry bout that!

[saxitoxin]

As astonishing as those who abstain from acknowledging truth and reality and refusing to unplug from time proven failures. (IE communism/democtratic socialism)

My experience was that it wasn't a failure but a success.

DDR and Soviet union. Where are they today?

Thats a success?

They did err and mistakes were made. I can't speak for the USSR - especially as that was a different set of circumstances entirely - but, in the case of the DDR, we dreamed too much and put too much faith and hope that peace would win out. Ultimately that led to the DDR's downfall.

I do not recall that the tearing down of the Berlin wall or the collapse of the DDR and German re unification was anything but peaceful. I spose a protest or two took place. I dunno.

Must be the censorship of the western media that has kept me in the dark or maybe I was just to busy sucking at the teat of capitalism to notice.

Sorry bout that!

Apology accepted, JJ!

[pimpdave]

Pyongyang, May 20 (KCNA) -- A spokesman for the DPRK National Defence Commission issued a statement today as regards the sinking of warship "Cheonan" of the south Korean puppet navy.

The statement reads:

We had already warned the south Korean group of traitors not to make reckless remarks concerning the sinking of warship "Cheonan" of the puppet navy.

Nevertheless, the group of traitors had far-fetchedly tried to link the case with us without offering any material evidence. It finally announced the results of the joint investigation based on a sheer fabrication, which assert that the warship was sunken by our torpedo attack, in a bid to mislead the public opinion inside and outside Korea.

It is, at the same time, crying out for "punishment" and "retaliation" internally and foolishly seeking to prod the international community into applying additional "sanctions" against the DPRK.

What matters is that traitor Lee Myung Bak is taking the lead in such anti-DPRK smear campaign, even daring slander the headquarters of our revolution.

Meanwhile, Kim Thae Yong and other gangsters of the south Korean puppet military accustomed to flattery and blind obedience echo Lee Myung Bak's outbursts. This smear campaign is fanned up by Ryu Myung Hwan and other ultra-rightist conservatives of south Korea.

This is also joined by the U.S. and Japanese aggressors who are making desperate efforts to keep their hostile policy towards the DPRK on its orbit.

We would like to question them so busy linking the above-said case with the DPRK why they don't link with it the death of a puppet army soldier, crashes of fighter plane and gunship of the puppet navy and air force and the sinking of a civilian fishing boat that occurred one after another almost simultaneously.

It is the age of science and technology.

As a swollen balloon is bound to break, any lie is bound to be brought to light no matter how hard one may try to make it sound plausible.

What is evident is that the sinking of warship "Cheonan" can never be construed otherwise than a "conspiratorial farce" and "charade" orchestrated by the group of traitors in a deliberate and brigandish manner to achieve certain political and military aims because only 46 soldiers met miserable deaths while officers survived the case.

This being a hard reality, they are pointing a dirty accusing finger at us like a thief crying "Stop the thief!"

It is a trite method of the successive south Korean puppet regimes to fake up a shocking case and use it for floating a story about "north wind" whenever they find themselves in a crisis.

These days they are using for this plot even "deserters from the north" who had found their ways to a dumping ground and human scum.

The National Defence Commission of the DPRK responsible for the defence of the country and the security of the nation clarifies the principled stand of our army and people in view of the grave situation where the sinister plot of the group of traitors may lead to reckless actions against us.

1. As the group of traitors declared that the sinking of the warship "Cheonan" is linked with us, the NDC of the DPRK will dispatch an inspection group to the spot of south Korea to verify material evidence concerning the linkage. The group of traitors should produce before the dignified inspection group of the DPRK material evidence proving that the sinking of the warship is linked with us.

We remind the group of traitors in advance that there should be not a shred of doubt about the material evidence to be produced before the inspection group.

2. Our army and people will promptly react to any "punishment" and "retaliation" and to any "sanctions" infringing upon our state interests with various forms of tough measures including an all-out war.

The all-out war to be undertaken by us will be a sacred war involving the whole nation, all the people and the whole state for completely eliminating the strongholds of the group of traitors who orchestrated "the conspiratorial farce" and "charade" and their followers and building instead a reunified power in which the whole nation emerges powerful and prosperous.

The tough countermeasures to be taken by us will prove to be practical actions of justice for dealing unpredictable sledge-hammer blows at the group of traitors who blocks national reconciliation and unity and stirs up an atmosphere of confrontation in the south Korean society.

3. Now that the group of traitors declared what it called "decisive actions", we will brand any small incident that occurs in the territorial waters, air and land where our sovereignty is exercised including the West Sea of Korea as a provocation of confrontation maniacs and react to it with unlimited retaliatory blow, merciless strong physical blow.

It is our invariable iron will to react to "retaliation" with more powerful retaliation and to "punishment" with indiscriminate punishment of our style.

Availing ourselves of this opportunity, we sternly warn the U.S. and Japanese authorities and riff-raffs, their poor lackeys, to act with discretion.

The world will clearly see what dear price the group of traitors will have to pay for the clumsy "conspiratorial farce" and "charade" concocted to stifle compatriots.

http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2010/201005/ ... -01ee.html

[saxitoxin]

Pyongyang, May 20 (KCNA) -- A spokesman for the DPRK National Defence Commission issued a statement today as regards the sinking of warship "Cheonan" of the south Korean puppet navy.

The statement reads:

We had already warned the south Korean group of traitors not to make reckless remarks concerning the sinking of warship "Cheonan" of the puppet navy.

Nevertheless, the group of traitors had far-fetchedly tried to link the case with us without offering any material evidence. It finally announced the results of the joint investigation based on a sheer fabrication, which assert that the warship was sunken by our torpedo attack, in a bid to mislead the public opinion inside and outside Korea.

It is, at the same time, crying out for "punishment" and "retaliation" internally and foolishly seeking to prod the international community into applying additional "sanctions" against the DPRK.

What matters is that traitor Lee Myung Bak is taking the lead in such anti-DPRK smear campaign, even daring slander the headquarters of our revolution.

Meanwhile, Kim Thae Yong and other gangsters of the south Korean puppet military accustomed to flattery and blind obedience echo Lee Myung Bak's outbursts. This smear campaign is fanned up by Ryu Myung Hwan and other ultra-rightist conservatives of south Korea.

This is also joined by the U.S. and Japanese aggressors who are making desperate efforts to keep their hostile policy towards the DPRK on its orbit.

We would like to question them so busy linking the above-said case with the DPRK why they don't link with it the death of a puppet army soldier, crashes of fighter plane and gunship of the puppet navy and air force and the sinking of a civilian fishing boat that occurred one after another almost simultaneously.

It is the age of science and technology.

As a swollen balloon is bound to break, any lie is bound to be brought to light no matter how hard one may try to make it sound plausible.

What is evident is that the sinking of warship "Cheonan" can never be construed otherwise than a "conspiratorial farce" and "charade" orchestrated by the group of traitors in a deliberate and brigandish manner to achieve certain political and military aims because only 46 soldiers met miserable deaths while officers survived the case.

This being a hard reality, they are pointing a dirty accusing finger at us like a thief crying "Stop the thief!"

It is a trite method of the successive south Korean puppet regimes to fake up a shocking case and use it for floating a story about "north wind" whenever they find themselves in a crisis.

These days they are using for this plot even "deserters from the north" who had found their ways to a dumping ground and human scum.

The National Defence Commission of the DPRK responsible for the defence of the country and the security of the nation clarifies the principled stand of our army and people in view of the grave situation where the sinister plot of the group of traitors may lead to reckless actions against us.

1. As the group of traitors declared that the sinking of the warship "Cheonan" is linked with us, the NDC of the DPRK will dispatch an inspection group to the spot of south Korea to verify material evidence concerning the linkage. The group of traitors should produce before the dignified inspection group of the DPRK material evidence proving that the sinking of the warship is linked with us.

We remind the group of traitors in advance that there should be not a shred of doubt about the material evidence to be produced before the inspection group.

2. Our army and people will promptly react to any "punishment" and "retaliation" and to any "sanctions" infringing upon our state interests with various forms of tough measures including an all-out war.

The all-out war to be undertaken by us will be a sacred war involving the whole nation, all the people and the whole state for completely eliminating the strongholds of the group of traitors who orchestrated "the conspiratorial farce" and "charade" and their followers and building instead a reunified power in which the whole nation emerges powerful and prosperous.

The tough countermeasures to be taken by us will prove to be practical actions of justice for dealing unpredictable sledge-hammer blows at the group of traitors who blocks national reconciliation and unity and stirs up an atmosphere of confrontation in the south Korean society.

3. Now that the group of traitors declared what it called "decisive actions", we will brand any small incident that occurs in the territorial waters, air and land where our sovereignty is exercised including the West Sea of Korea as a provocation of confrontation maniacs and react to it with unlimited retaliatory blow, merciless strong physical blow.

It is our invariable iron will to react to "retaliation" with more powerful retaliation and to "punishment" with indiscriminate punishment of our style.

Availing ourselves of this opportunity, we sternly warn the U.S. and Japanese authorities and riff-raffs, their poor lackeys, to act with discretion.

The world will clearly see what dear price the group of traitors will have to pay for the clumsy "conspiratorial farce" and "charade" concocted to stifle compatriots.

http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2010/201005/ ... -01ee.html

It is with horror I read each day's issue of the Central News Agency.

About a year ago ol' Saxi wrote the Spanish-Korean Friendship Committee and Juche Study Group, which is the DPRK's primary contact outlet for newsreporting purposes, volunteering to edit the English output of their translations. Sadly, I never heard back.

Particularly irrirating is their frequent use of the word "lodestar" which is completely archaic -I have yet to meet an English speaker who knows what "lodestar" means.

[King Doctor]

My name's Kim Jong! The US is wrong! Continue foreign aid or taste my Dong!
I gots mad flow when I eat my pho. Capitalist pigs I overthrow!
We're an axis of evil, like Evel Knievel! No chance of Japanese civilian retrieval!
IAEA criticise us, I say that's insanium! DPRK right to enrich uranium!
I don't mean to boast but you guys are toast - Taepodong-2 can reach the west coast!

[Pedronicus]

The first country that actually discovers this energy is going to be rich. Very fucking rich.

It's incredible that the governments of England and America have handed more cash to the banks in bail outs, than they have to the scientists to discover how to make Fusion a reality. If they had of taken that bail out cash and handed it to scientists, Scientists would work it out within a year or two.

Bank bail outs = Same old shit
Fusion = the future.
Government = cunts

[saxitoxin]

My name's Kim Jong! The US is wrong! Continue foreign aid or taste my Dong!
I gots mad flow when I eat my pho. Capitalist pigs I overthrow!
We're an axis of evil, like Evel Knievel! No chance of Japanese civilian retrieval!
IAEA criticise us, I say that's insanium! DPRK right to enrich uranium!
I don't mean to boast but you guys are toast - Taepodong-2 can reach the west coast!

BRAVO, King Doct-er, wait one sec ... ol' Saxi lives on the west coast!

[Pedronicus]

40 years ago Fusion was going to be clean, limitless and available to all nations. It would transform the gloabl balance of power, transform economies and reduce pollution. It still will. It is also still , as it was then, 30 years away.

So what happened and why?

I recently had a long conversation with one of this county's leading Fusion researchers, Dr David Ward, of Culham's JET fusion research facility.

The short answer? Finance.

The longer answer is more interesting

The oil crisis of the seventies made politicians listen to Fusion physicists. They funded it. The UK built JET. It was the leading Fusion research facility in the world. Then the price of oil went down, North Sea oil was discovered and suddenly the funding for fusion withered. The next-step machine was never built. Political minds are feeble at best. Long term, they are worse than useless.

The budget of Fusion research has fallen by 66% in the last 20 years. As Dr Ward said," Fusion wasn't 30 years away it was 30 billion Euro's away." We simply haven't bothered to fund it. We spent 800 million building the Dome. This year we spent 22 million funding Fusion. A tent or the future and security of the nation? Hmm let me see now.

And Dr Ward is very clear - "Fusion isn't a pipe dream. Fusion power is generated every day around the world." Nor is Fusion going to be an exotic add-on. Without Fusion we WILL go back to the stone age. Sure, cutting energy use is essential and possible. Just change the building regs and build houses that aren't thin-walled speculator boxes. Renewables, if we pull our finger out on wave power, will generate maybe 20%. The rest will still be oil or Fission.

We will not run out of oil. It will just become very expensive. Along the way, soon, will will have to decide if we want to use oil and gas for plastics, chemicals and materials or continue to burn it. If we burn it, carpentry is set for a come back.

Fusion is one of a short list of things WE MUST DO. As the demand for hydrocarbons outstrips supply, and the climatic effects of fossil fuel burning become self-amplifying, we must replace the bulk of our power generating capacity. Will it be Fusion or Fission? One is polluting and creates everything you need for a world full of atomic weapons. The other is clean, pollution of zero but sadly has no military value. Could that be why the budget for fission has been 20 times that of fusion?

We will fail as a civilization if we have not cracked Fusion. It really is as simple as that. It has been there for the taking for a generation, And yet our political class is so catastrophically unable to think ahead it remains out of reach.

So what do we need to do?

Dr Ward is surprisingly candid. We need to build the next level machine. We are in the process. That machine, ETA in France, will be a giga watt to Jet's 20 mega watts. ETA will be a the first industrial demonstration facility.

ETA will push our magnetic containment ability to its limit. It will allow us to make a machine where we can tackle the next big hurdle. Not generating the energy. We can do that. But dealing with it after. To sustain the reaction you need to insulate it. It turns out giga watt size is about the threshold between machines too small to insulate properly and machines large enough to make it feasible.

We will need to gear up the industrial production of super conducting magnets. In the UK we specialize in the high end magnets. Production is already more in China, Japan and Korea. We cannot wait for the magnets to get cheaper. We need a policy and funding to push their development forward.

ETA will cost €10-12 billion. That is half what we need to spend to make Fusion a global reality. We need to spend about 24 billion euros. If we spend it a billion a year we will be there in twenty- odd . This isn't like the 70's war on cancer. Then we did not know the lineaments of the problem. Today we do. We know what we have to solve and in some cases how.

24 Billion euros. No government will afford that. BUT WHY NOT? We HAVE given 40 times that amount in just two years to our banks. And for what? Are they going to maintain civilization?

Of course the banks and their captured politicians will be quick to caution you that such research cannot be done by governments. They always get it wrong and waste the money, they will tell you. Leave it to the free market. This is part of the free market propaganda we must rid ourselves of. The Manhattan Project. The breaking of the Enigma code. The creation of Nuclear Fusion reactors, the invention of the jet engine, the Apollo and Soyuz space programmes and THE INTERNET. The free market invented, created and accomplished NONE of these. They made more of them AFTER they were done and invented. Anyone want to argue?

If we had a political class who cared, who were not merely the willing bag men of the financial class we would put Fusion and a short list of other scientific and industrial priorities on a war footing. We would do what we did with Manhattan and Engima. We would say to dedicated men and women who do NOT, unlike bankers, do it only for the size of their bonus, "What do you need, and when?" We would clear away the petty fogging bureaucrats and self-serving private contractors. We would recruit the best and give them a dream to inspire them.

It was done then. We found the minds. They are waiting for us to find them again. Such a programme of research would attract the finest students to this country and from within this country. Give them dreams and the means to realise them.

It would take a fraction, a tiny fraction of what we spend and waste on banks and weapons we will never fire. Think about it. It would cost less per year than the city spends on its own bonuses. Am I alone in thinking the status quo DOES NOT deserve to live?