Sick of 80% of the site

[thegreekdog]

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Or people that get all excited when someone posts a picture of a girl.

I'm pretty sure b.k. barunt is older than 11.

[trapyoung]

You don't have to be younger than 12 to have that 11-year old virgin squeal. Philadelphia is close to Jersey, I'm sure you've heard it before

[thegreekdog]

You don't have to be younger than 12 to have that 11-year old virgin squeal. Philadelphia is close to Jersey, I'm sure you've heard it before

I live in Jersey - the answer to your question is yes.

[trapyoung]

I live in Jersey

My condolences.

[mviola]

I live in Jersey

My condolences.

[thegreekdog]

South Jersey - it's much better.

Sorry, back on topic now.

[trapyoung]

I know that some peoples' initial reactions are "we should bring back Dancing Mustard." Assuming that will not happen, are there alternatives? I say yes. And those alternatives are to be witty, smart, fun, and rebellious (within the rules) yourselves. I've found that, although perhaps we've lost some entertaining posters, there remain entertaining and intelligent posters and we are constantly bringing in new ones. I think if you want to be one of those posters, you should try to be one. If you are complaining about the lack of entertainment in the forums, go provide that entertainment. I can certainly understand how you can have some frustration regarding the content of the forums, but a lot of you are witty, smart, fun, and rebellious and, therefore, you can change the content of the forums to reflect the content you want to see.

I've been here since year dot. I try to be witty, smart fun and rebellious, but to be honest it's hard work being funny when so many of this sites great protagonists have been banned, there is less and less material to work with.

When you boot those who are capable of witty, intelligent conversation you remove a potential poster. You can assume someone can step in and be equally great but the fact is that the people who want to spend their time on the forums and be intelligent and witty are a finite group and when the best poster of the group (DM) is removed, well you're not just going to replace that.

Another problem with the whole 'be the change you want to see' re: the forums is that while it's likely Pedro or I can make a post that is good, it gets lost in the hogwash. In the private fora it is easier to keep stuff up and relevant but in the public fora you have trolls, you have the incompetent, and you have the easily offended (which we have seen all three in here) - not to mention three threads about people talking about "they love how [insert retarded map or leaking nipple comment]." And if some dumbass is willing to bump that or post irrelevant non-sense in here, then this thread dies and those rise. Some people want to see witty, humorous and entertaining dialogue back and forth between competent posters, while others want to see their name posted. Too many occupy the latter, while too few occupy the former. Unless a grip is gotten on what goes up in these threads you could have 10 posters the caliber of DM, but if you have 1 or 2 willing to troll and become the face of irrelevance (which so many do currently), you've got nothing but a clusterf*uck.

[thegreekdog]

Another problem with the whole 'be the change you want to see' re: the forums is that while it's likely Pedro or I can make a post that is good, it gets lost in the hogwash. In the private fora it is easier to keep stuff up and relevant but in the public fora you have trolls, you have the incompetent, and you have the easily offended (which we have seen all three in here) - not to mention three threads about people talking about "they love how [insert retarded map or leaking nipple comment]." And if some dumbass is willing to bump that or post irrelevant non-sense in here, then this thread dies and those rise. Some people want to see witty, humorous and entertaining dialogue back and forth between competent posters, while others want to see their name posted. Too many occupy the latter, while too few occupy the former. Unless a grip is gotten on what goes up in these threads you could have 10 posters the caliber of DM, but if you have 1 or 2 willing to troll and become the face of irrelevance (which so many do currently), you've got nothing but a clusterf*uck.

Any specific ideas on how to get more entertaining posts and threads and eliminate or perhaps modify the content of the "incompetent," "irrelevant," and the "name-droppers?"

[trapyoung]

Another problem with the whole 'be the change you want to see' re: the forums is that while it's likely Pedro or I can make a post that is good, it gets lost in the hogwash. In the private fora it is easier to keep stuff up and relevant but in the public fora you have trolls, you have the incompetent, and you have the easily offended (which we have seen all three in here) - not to mention three threads about people talking about "they love how [insert retarded map or leaking nipple comment]." And if some dumbass is willing to bump that or post irrelevant non-sense in here, then this thread dies and those rise. Some people want to see witty, humorous and entertaining dialogue back and forth between competent posters, while others want to see their name posted. Too many occupy the latter, while too few occupy the former. Unless a grip is gotten on what goes up in these threads you could have 10 posters the caliber of DM, but if you have 1 or 2 willing to troll and become the face of irrelevance (which so many do currently), you've got nothing but a clusterf*uck.

Any specific ideas on how to get more entertaining posts and threads and eliminate or perhaps modify the content of the "incompetent," "irrelevant," and the "name-droppers?"

Well the General Congratulations thread is a good idea but it's evolved into people congratulating themselves for tying their shoes. In that instance perhaps stricter parameters for what qualifies as on-topic would suffice. Yes, it would take time and the mods could probably not peruse each post to make sure it stays on topic but something needs to be done about the abundance of bullshit.

Another idea would be to continue the use of sub-categories. To me, the most efficient and productive forums (besides private ones) are Map Foundry, Clans and the Newsletter. The Newsletter is easy because virtually everything is locked, you control the entry of information, it'll tend to be more useful and relevant when a post is made. But the goal is to have an open forum which is productive and that is largely achieved in Map Foundry and Clans because of the amount of sub-forums which helps place topics where they should be. Now does that mean there should be a dice bitch sub-forum in GD? Not necessarily, but an Achievements thread, Awards thread, Game Etiquette/Questions thread, and then actual "GENERAL" thread where it is related to quality of maps lately, CC history, etc. are discussed. Bumpage could also be split to have a Political thread once again if that's what people want to discuss, that's how it used to be, it shouldn't have changed.

Also, perhaps a like/dislike thing could be introduced and if after 10-15 votes, the dislike for a post exceeds 80%, the post is removed. The post could be disliked as spam, offensive, etc. That would cut down on the amount of moderator time needed to clean up the forums, would punish posters who spam and would promote the user-driven aspect of the site. Besides that, the only option to not create sub-forums would be to up the amount of moderators used, but that increases the bureaucracy and can get messy.

That's all I can think of now

[thegreekdog]

I like the idea of subforums, and I believe the idea was presented in the past (I do not recall what the discussion entailed, but obviously the result was no subforums).

I am not a fan of the like/dislike thing because I envision it discouraging posts (which I guess you want to do). I just see a shouting down to occur. Granted, shouting down occurs now, but I like when people shout each other down in public rather than by voting. And if you are worried about moderator time, well... don't. It is what it is.

[trapyoung]

I agree with you about the like/dislike but perhaps there could be something that people assign to a user's posts. If you like the user, thumbs up or something but if you don't thumbs down. It would do nothing to the post per se but users and that user in particular could see what people think of their posts, etc. I think a big problem is that some of these kids on here don't realize how utterly painful they are to interact with and if you bring it up in a direct fashion that's a flame. I'd hate to introduce a rating system when I just shat all over it earlier in the thread but without a flaming thread where you can actually tell someone what you think about their ability to communicate and interact w/ the community, there's not much left in the way of options.

[thegreekdog]

I agree with you about the like/dislike but perhaps there could be something that people assign to a user's posts. If you like the user, thumbs up or something but if you don't thumbs down. It would do nothing to the post per se but users and that user in particular could see what people think of their posts, etc. I think a big problem is that some of these kids on here don't realize how utterly painful they are to interact with and if you bring it up in a direct fashion that's a flame. I'd hate to introduce a rating system when I just shat all over it earlier in the thread but without a flaming thread where you can actually tell someone what you think about their ability to communicate and interact w/ the community, there's not much left in the way of options.

In my experience, there are not many ideas that will work on making the utterly painful poster less painful (flames or no flames). Although I'm no computer programmer guy, I foresee this type of post-rating system to take some programming mumbo jumbo (which may make this type of system infeasible).

[Dako]

More subforums are bad because it is harder to maintain them. I know it cause I heard it from admins myself.

Another good idea (actually, I think it is awesome) - make a bumpage a user-group based forum where only members (our brilliant talents) can write and everyone can read.

You need to deserve your membership in GD forums and if you do not behave - your membership can be striped on one, two.

How do you like it?

[Ace Rimmer]

I know from experience attempting to help out those less-gifted in the age and/or coherence department that there are some people who just won't get it that they are being mocked and that they really need to take their time before they post. Even flaming those people won't help their ability and won't make them post less.

[Pedronicus]

Shut up jake you prick!!!

[Ace Rimmer]

Shut up jake you prick!!!

It's a good thing you never come to live chat. My nickname would be "Old Bill" and I'd have no clue wtf you meant

[Georgerx7di]

RE: original post. What's up new guy. Talk to pimpdave, you might be ok to join our group. I didn't read your long post as I have been drinking, but it look rather interesting.

[trapyoung]

you might be ok to join our group.

Thanks, but I wouldn't really classify myself as a Star Wars Fan.

[Dako]

More subforums are bad because it is harder to maintain them. I know it cause I heard it from admins myself.

Another good idea (actually, I think it is awesome) - make a bumpage a user-group based forum where only members (our brilliant talents) can write and everyone can read.

You need to deserve your membership in GD forums and if you do not behave - your membership can be striped on one, two.

How do you like it?

I am quoting myself so you can reread it and comment lol.

[trapyoung]

More subforums are bad because it is harder to maintain them. I know it cause I heard it from admins myself.

Another good idea (actually, I think it is awesome) - make a bumpage a user-group based forum where only members (our brilliant talents) can write and everyone can read.

You need to deserve your membership in GD forums and if you do not behave - your membership can be striped on one, two.

How do you like it?

I am quoting myself so you can reread it and comment lol.

To me, that seems a lot like the Newsletter, except maybe it would have some back and forth and be more conversational. I dunno what I think of it, it sort of seems like the cool's kid table in the cafeteria and I do like ridiculing those who get in way over their head (maybe I just like to prey on the weak). So I'm undecided on it, I'd need to hear other people comment and talk about how they think it'd work.

[Dako]

This idea was not of of blue - I know a forum where offtopic forum was based that way. You needed to get 50posts to post there, and if you had some problems with other members or mods - they just revoke your membership (for a while, like 2 weeks).

So this might actually work and I know that offtopic forum hasn't evolved into elitist group. Of course, each new member had troubles posting there and getting accepted (as that group was not so popular, but was one of the best). But once the person survives the conversation and proves to be witty - he can live in that environment. Also, there were some clown who were kept just to make the conversation more funny in terms of jokes and pokes.

[Ace Rimmer]

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... utput=html

[Georgerx7di]

you might be ok to join our group.

Thanks, but I wouldn't really classify myself as a Star Wars Fan.

lmao, not the group I had in mind, funny though.

[Chariot of Fire]

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[Leehar]

lol, Sim's keeping an eye on his charges
And yeah trap, you may hate 80% of the site, but I find that the other 20% is good enough for me. If this is only a game, It's meaningful enough to suck up the 20 and leave the other 80 alone, not that I particularly disagree with your sentiments