What is Obama's Faith?

[Phatscotty]

Political quandary #2 - Liberals up in arms demanding that people recognize the president's Christianity. Many are ever going so far as to prove and speak for his devoutness.

chuckles

[tzor]

Also, what's the difference Gnostic and Deist?

Gnostic - Does not subscribe to a belief in God but does not deny the possibility of a supernal power.

Deist - Believes that a supernal power created the universe and that the universe is subsequently self maintained. Common analogy is that God is like a clock maker. Once the clock is made, it ticks and his work is done.

What a difference an "A" makes!

Gnostic: an adherent of gnosticism or of a philosophy or theology influenced by gnosticism ; especially : an adherent of any of several Gnostic sects of the 2d to 6th centuries adjudged heretical by the early Christian church: the thought and practice of any of various cults of late pre-Christian and early Christian centuries declared heretical by the church and distinguished chiefly by pretension to mystic and esoteric religious insights, by emphasis on knowledge rather than faith, and by the conviction that matter is evil

Agnostic: one who professes agnosticism ; broadly : one who maintains a continuing doubt about the existence or knowability of a god or any ultimates: 1 a : the doctrine that the existence or nature of any ultimate reality is unknown and probably unknowable or that any knowledge about matters of ultimate concern is impossible or improbable; specifically : the doctrine that God or any first cause is unknown and probably unknowable b : a doctrine affirming that the existence of a god is possible but denying that there are any sufficient reasons for holding either that he does or does not exist

Deist: an adherent of deism: a rationalistic movement of the 17th and 18th centuries whose adherents generally subscribed to a natural religion based on human reason and morality, on the belief in one God who after creating the world and the laws governing it refrained from interfering with the operation of those laws, and on the rejection of every kind of supernatural intervention in human affairs

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

This poll is full of FAIL.

[joecoolfrog]

I put gnostic. I have never got the feeling that Obama is especially spiritual or religious. Obviously he claims Christian, but I took the liberty of applying the question to what do I think he really believes.

It would appear that you have no idea what the term Gnostic means , you are in good company though as obviously Phatty is equally as ignorant in this regard.

[Phatscotty]

I put gnostic. I have never got the feeling that Obama is especially spiritual or religious. Obviously he claims Christian, but I took the liberty of applying the question to what do I think he really believes.

It would appear that you have no idea what the term Gnostic means , you are in good company though as obviously Phatty is equally as ignorant in this regard.

interesting, while they are seperate words and mean seperate things, it is possible that people who are familiar with the term understand its general significance/implication. Besides, I already fixed the mistake. So why be a jackass about it?

This is the narrowest definition victory I have ever seen anyone try to claim. gnostic/agnostic.....

It's a common mistake. You should be able to see how it might be easy to mix them up???

[NightWolf]

I was going to select Muslim, but since I saw Luciferian, I realized I would be a food to not select that option. Actually, I should have selected LuCIAferian. As for my reasons? Well, the writing is on the wall.

[tzor]

Here is an interesting article: Mystery solved! Why Americans think president is Muslim. According to this Obama is either ...

... "engaging in a Taqiyya, which is a lie that is spoken in the greater interest of Islam,"
or
... "an apostate, a murtadd, in Arabic, ... the worst of all crimes that a Muslim can commit, worse than murder."

The "Islamic-sanctioned deception," says Morse, remains the only explanation to escaping such punishment.

"The other possibility is that President Obama is engaging in a Taqiyya, which is a lie that is spoken in the greater interest of Islam," says Morse. "There are several quotes in the Quran and the Hadith, the Islamic holy books, that set the conditions under which it is permissible for the Muslim to lie regarding his identity and his intentions when dealing with non-Muslims and the non-Muslim world. Lying is allowed, even encouraged, by the Muslim according to Shariah law, if the lie in some way furthers the agenda of Islam.

"If Obama is indeed a secret-believing Muslim, as opposed to an apostate, the effects on public policy and on American society would be profound," adds Morse. "Whether Muslim or Christian, Barack Obama is the first 'Muslim president' in the same way that Bill Clinton was the first 'black president.'"

[silvanricky]

I already fixed the mistake. So why be a jackass about it?

Because that's all he and his son ever do on this site.

[notyou2]

I thought the last of the gnostics were murdered by the Catholics in France like 400 years ago in the Languedoc region. I can't remember the name of the town they lived in, but they were all killed.

[tzor]

I thought the last of the gnostics were murdered by the Catholics in France like 400 years ago in the Languedoc region. I can't remember the name of the town they lived in, but they were all killed.

The Cathari were a sect with both dualistic and gnostic elements. I'm not quote sure they were the "last of the gnostics," however.

[heavycola]

Political quandary #2 - Liberals up in arms demanding that people recognize the president's Christianity. Many are ever going so far as to prove and speak for his devoutness.

chuckles

I is a christian.
I is not a liberal..
Therefore:
Liberals are not christian.

I like cheesecake.
I am not a liberal.
Therefore:
Liberals do not like cheesecake.
Or
anyone who does not like cheesecake is a liberal.

Therefore:
anyone who does not like cheesecake is a muslim.

DOES OBAMA LIKE CHEESECAKE? GLENN BECK SAYS NO! HE DOESN'T!

[b.k. barunt]

Glenn Beck lies!


Honibaz

[Phatscotty]

Agnostic ties Muslim for second place.

[notyou2]

But his pastor allegedly supported black extremists groups. What about that innuendo? Why have the paranoid right wing tards given up on that rumour and started a new one? STOP confusing me fucktards!!!!! Please take a stance and be consistent so the liberal lefties can make a case against your paranoid rumours. It's like fucking dodgeball.

[Phatscotty]

But his pastor allegedly supported black extremists groups. What about that innuendo? Why have the paranoid right wing tards given up on that rumour and started a new one? STOP confusing me fucktards!!!!! Please take a stance and be consistent so the liberal lefties can make a case against your paranoid rumours. It's like fucking dodgeball.

ummm, everyone here is able to make their own choice, create their own rumors about lizard people and what not.

If you are talking to me, I chose Liberation, one reason being, I know that is the correct answer. That is my choice. I have not spread any rumors about that, and am actually sandbagging my video proof until I feel like sharing it. I wish not to steam roll my answer on anyone else, rather, hear everyone elses discussion without involving myself.

[rockfist]

But his pastor allegedly supported black extremists groups. What about that innuendo? Why have the paranoid right wing tards given up on that rumour and started a new one? STOP confusing me fucktards!!!!! Please take a stance and be consistent so the liberal lefties can make a case against your paranoid rumours. It's like fucking dodgeball.

Obama is a fucking moron and is ruining the country. We will do anything within the context of the law to stop him. I don't think spreading rumors is necessary, but with the left crying racism at every turn and using only their medulla oblongatas for brain function I can certainly sympathize with those who would.

[heavycola]

But his pastor allegedly supported black extremists groups. What about that innuendo? Why have the paranoid right wing tards given up on that rumour and started a new one? STOP confusing me fucktards!!!!! Please take a stance and be consistent so the liberal lefties can make a case against your paranoid rumours. It's like fucking dodgeball.

Obama is a fucking moron and is ruining the country. We will do anything within the context of the law to stop him.

Like... vote him out?

[Phatscotty]

But his pastor allegedly supported black extremists groups. What about that innuendo? Why have the paranoid right wing tards given up on that rumour and started a new one? STOP confusing me fucktards!!!!! Please take a stance and be consistent so the liberal lefties can make a case against your paranoid rumours. It's like fucking dodgeball.

Obama is a fucking moron and is ruining the country. We will do anything within the context of the law to stop him.

Like... vote him out?

unless, he's too busy clinging to his guns and his bible... How uber christian

[Phatscotty]

Agnostic huh? interesting

[Timminz]

Looks like I'm the only one who voted the "right" way, along with scotty.

[Phatscotty]

Looks like I'm the only one who voted the "right" way, along with scotty.

Oh Snap! The Media is asking the White House about BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY!

Look how how much we do not even know what values Obama believes in!

I find that Obama supporters use a gigantic amount of faith when it comes to Obama. (he's sooo smart. but how do you know? oh, you just know! got it) (He's a Christian! how do you know? I just know!)

I have always noted that the emptiness inside us can very dangerous.....

[BigBallinStalin]

The Vatican criticized certain strains of Liberation Theology for focusing on institutional dimensions of sin to the exclusion of the individual; and for allegedly misidentifying the church hierarchy as members of the privileged class.[7]

hahaha,

Vatican: "Hey, guys, we saw what did there, and we don't like it."

*Vatican BANS Liberation.

[Phatscotty]

The Vatican criticized certain strains of Liberation Theology for focusing on institutional dimensions of sin to the exclusion of the individual; and for allegedly misidentifying the church hierarchy as members of the privileged class.[7]

hahaha,

Vatican: "Hey, guys, we saw what did there, and we don't like it."

*Vatican BANS Liberation.

Have you ever witnessed a Liberation Congregation? It's pretty nutz dude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWigzBClEk8

Im not even digging up Wright, but I will add all Liberation theologies have a few defining characteristics.

"THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE!"
"THEY ARE TO BLAME"
"TAKE THEIR SHIT!"
"THAT'S OUR SHIT!"
"WE DESERVE THEIR SHIT!"

and

"SOCIAL JUSTICE AND SOCIALISM!!!"



no no no, Obama is not a socialist...

[jonesthecurl]

I put gnostic. I have never got the feeling that Obama is especially spiritual or religious. Obviously he claims Christian, but I took the liberty of applying the question to what do I think he really believes.

It would appear that you have no idea what the term Gnostic means , you are in good company though as obviously Phatty is equally as ignorant in this regard.

interesting, while they are seperate words and mean seperate things, it is possible that people who are familiar with the term understand its general significance/implication. Besides, I already fixed the mistake. So why be a jackass about it?

This is the narrowest definition victory I have ever seen anyone try to claim. gnostic/agnostic.....

It's a common mistake. You should be able to see how it might be easy to mix them up???

Just like theist and atheist.
or aerobic and anaerobic.

[Phatscotty]

his religion is sealed too...

[DirtyDishSoap]

I wanted to vote Jewish. He is obviously part of the Jewish conspiracy to control the world.

Every informed person knows he is an elder of Zion.

I voted He-Man, Master of the Universe.