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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:11 pm

I never said a doc could talk to anyone. Where are you getting this from?
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Commander9 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:13 pm

theherkman wrote:I know who two townies are, I know their roles, I can communicate with them during the night. No, not masons, before you get that idea stuck in your head. We are all pro-town. I was planning on using the role name like "John Doe" and comparing it to other information I have about a doc. Such as if she said doc's name is "John Smith" I could call her out.

And I am not over reacting. I claimed to have something to do with a doc and blake put a vote on me. That is very scummy. Not over reacting even a little bit.


The bolded part. Not sure, but it does look like a contradiction to me (pardon if it's not)?
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby strike wolf on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:17 pm

theherkman wrote:I never said a doc could talk to anyone. Where are you getting this from?

Ok. I'm starting to get confused. First you say that you know who a doc and another pro townrole are. Then you say you can talk to each other at night. But now you're saying the doc can't talk to anyone?

Edit before post. Yeah contradiction.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:18 pm

Didn't say one was a doc. Said I had info on a doc and knew of two townies I can speak with.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Commander9 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:27 pm

theherkman wrote:Didn't say one was a doc. Said I had info on a doc and knew of two townies I can speak with.


Have you ever heard of a phrase "ex officio" ? This is usually referred to governmental entities, but I think it's concept also works here.

You say you have information on two townies and yourself and that you can communicate during the night.

You also say you have information on the doctor.

That automatically qualifies that you do have to know who the doctor is (1/3 is the doctor). What you've just said doesn't make any sense?

Unless you've hacked into Squirrel's account and know who is who 8-[

I'm sorry, but pretty much any ground that you've regained for some, you just lost.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:30 pm

I know who two townies are and their roles. We 3 can talk. IN ADDITION to this, I have info on a doc. Never said this doc was one of this group. That's why when Vi said I was the doc I said it was much more complicated than that.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Serbia on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:33 pm

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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Fircoal on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:34 pm

Now we have Serbia and GaleDA as replacements. Et should be done >:U
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Commander9 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:37 pm

theherkman wrote:I know who two townies are and their roles. We 3 can talk. IN ADDITION to this, I have info on a doc. Never said this doc was one of this group. That's why when Vi said I was the doc I said it was much more complicated than that.


Am I the only one who doesn't get it? :-s Look, I'm not asking you tell me who you are or the roles, but I don't quite understand how can you know all of this independently:

A) Be able to talk with another two "pro-townies" and know their roles and names and only have night actions?

B) Know additional information about the doctor.

Your main reasoning that all of this is really complex and everything, but just how much power can a mod (experienced one at that) give to one player? Unless, some of the following could be true:

1) You guys are not pro-town. Possibilities could be quite big here.

2) You're not telling us the whole truth or adding some information.

3) Making up stuff as you go.


However, if this doesn't look suspicious at all to everyone else, I'm willing to let this go as this could mean my logic is flawed. However, I would still prefer some explanations on how can this be...
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:38 pm

Let me be clear. I AM NOT telling you everything. There are things I don't want the mafia to know. I am only saying what I need to in order to save the town from lynching me.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby strike wolf on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:40 pm

Ok. Herk' latest set of perks has confused me enough to believe that I need to step back and really consider this. other than that, no offense to gale but can we move serbia to the top of the replacement list just because I know he has mafia experience.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby freezie on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:40 pm

VioIet wrote:Actually freezie, two hours ago, the herk was only one vote away from being lynched. In the meantime, some players have unvoted- I am unsure of how many. However as it stands- he still has more votes on him then anyone else. I think his reaction this time was quite reasonable.



And you are absolutly right.

I for some reason thought les than 10 pages went on since last time..My bad.

Sorry herk :D my fault.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby strike wolf on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:45 pm

Ok so let me get this straight...you are one of 3 townies who know each other's roles and can talk during the night but you aren't masons. On top of this you have information on a doc including role name but he is not part of your group...
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:45 pm

freezie wrote:
VioIet wrote:Actually freezie, two hours ago, the herk was only one vote away from being lynched. In the meantime, some players have unvoted- I am unsure of how many. However as it stands- he still has more votes on him then anyone else. I think his reaction this time was quite reasonable.



And you are absolutly right.

I for some reason thought les than 10 pages went on since last time..My bad.

Sorry herk :D my fault.


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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Fircoal on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:47 pm

strike wolf wrote:Ok. Herk' latest set of perks has confused me enough to believe that I need to step back and really consider this. other than that, no offense to gale but can we move serbia to the top of the replacement list just because I know he has mafia experience.


Well I have a feeling we'll have enough spots for both of them :P
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Commander9 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:53 pm

theherkman wrote:Let me be clear. I AM NOT telling you everything. There are things I don't want the mafia to know. I am only saying what I need to in order to save the town from lynching me.


Personally, I'm not convinced, but there's no need to kick up a fuss if everyone else is happy. I might as well stfu.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:57 pm

Vote Count

flores (3) - violet, freezie, daze
lalaland (1) - iliad
aage (2) - fircoal, karel
naxus (1) - /
dazerazer (4) - saxlad, sensfan, flores, haggis
the herk (5) - edocsil, victor, naxus, jace, blake
nag (1) - pmc
sensfan (1) - herk
jace (1) - nag

16 to lynch. 3 days to deadline

Wow, I go out to dinner and I come back to 10 pages of votes and mod duties. This game is insane...

I'll be sorting out replacement stuff here in an hour or so... It seems like flow isn't gonna show so I am going to move on. I think I have enough now to fill all replacements. Maybe even one extra if lala only needs a prod.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby blakebowling on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:12 pm

I'm still confused too Commander.
herk, if you're stating that you're not telling us everything, and even stating that you've only given enough information to keep yourself from being lynched, what are you holding back?

Before people start FOS'ing me, I'm not asking for him to lay out everything, not by any means. I just think his "I've got information, but I can't tell you because it needs to be a secret" claim is a bit weird.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Commander9 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:16 pm

blakebowling wrote:I'm still confused too Commander.
herk, if you're stating that you're not telling us everything, and even stating that you've only given enough information to keep yourself from being lynched, what are you holding back?

Before people start FOS'ing me, I'm not asking for him to lay out everything, not by any means. I just think his "I've got information, but I can't tell you because it needs to be a secret" claim is a bit weird.


Exactly and that combined with few other of his claims and overall gameplay leaves me extremely suspicious. Also, if herk would turn out to be a scum (or someone that's not pro-town), I'd also share the suspicions on Vioiet too. Might be just me, but they definitely seem connected.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:25 pm

Serbia is replacing flow520
Stefunny is replacing Ace
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:27 pm

Now please quit deadbeating.... :cry:
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby naxus on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:43 pm

Whether or not herks telling truth is irrelevant at this point. I believe that someone, mafia or town, is going to kill him tonight because of how confusing and intricate his claim/group is
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby VioIet on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:54 pm

Commander9 wrote:Exactly and that combined with few other of his claims and overall gameplay leaves me extremely suspicious. Also, if herk would turn out to be a scum (or someone that's not pro-town), I'd also share the suspicions on Vioiet too. Might be just me, but they definitely seem connected.


Oh please do tell commander. I am interested in hearing your theory on how we are connected. Herk has seemed to be suspicious of me all game, and only started liking me recentely.

blakebowling wrote:I'm still confused too Commander.
herk, if you're stating that you're not telling us everything, and even stating that you've only given enough information to keep yourself from being lynched, what are you holding back?

Before people start FOS'ing me, I'm not asking for him to lay out everything, not by any means. I just think his "I've got information, but I can't tell you because it needs to be a secret" claim is a bit weird.


There is no reason blake for him to give any more information. Sounds as though you are really searching. You continue to be on my FOS list.

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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby Commander9 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:59 pm

VioIet wrote:Oh please do tell commander. I am interested in hearing your theory on how we are connected. Herk has seemed to be suspicious of me all game, and only started liking me recentely.


There's not much there (pretty much a feeling that not everything is right here), but I'm just saying that if you two were connected, with the situation herk is in at the moment, it would make sense for you to defend him. Nothing concrete yet, just some interest.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED

Postby edocsil on Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:08 am

Well unvote

A man who can tell a tale like that deserves to live (+10pts if you can name that reference)

Honestly, it is to complex for a scum, they have all their ducks in a row before they claim. The only real option for a lynch I see here is Blake, and that is a poor option indeed. Perhaps if we had more time to sort it out, but with 24hrs remaining I could never in good faith start a wagon. Looks like it will be a No Lynch.
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