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Yeah unvote vote edoc
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sensfan wrote:Ya Sax is a bit confused.... lol.
Ah, forgive him, he's in love remember :D
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TheSaxlad wrote:Yeah unvote vote edoc
Yea, a bit o logic there?
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My Bit O Logic. Kernov and me have already claimed. Sensfan is having a go at kernov without a reason so either

A. You and him are scumbuddies cause you protected him
B. You are scum and he is not ( but protecting him has no worth)
C. He is scum and you are not (again protection has no worth)

So the logical conclusion would be... A.!
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TheSaxlad wrote:My Bit O Logic. Kernov and me have already claimed. Sensfan is having a go at kernov without a reason so either

A. You and him are scumbuddies cause you protected him
B. You are scum and he is not ( but protecting him has no worth)
C. He is scum and you are not (again protection has no worth)

So the logical conclusion would be... A.!
Good god, I figured it would be something like this. When he pressured you, you had made this terrible, useless claim and his vote was representative of the way most of us where feeling. I felt that his action was justified. So I said so when he was voted for. I would do the same for any player that I thought was being voted for for poor logic.

Long story short, the timing of the actions matters a lot, you hadn't really claimed when he voted for you.

On a different tangent these A, B or C things bother me. There are always other possibilities, they tend to just not be convenient for the argument. Your C is moronic, I have no way knowing his alignment. Or if you really must do a list like this at least attempt to cover all the bases, as is both of us are town. This being said, I have no idea what his alignment is, but it is just as likely as your other 3 options.
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edocsil wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:My Bit O Logic. Kernov and me have already claimed. Sensfan is having a go at kernov without a reason so either

A. You and him are scumbuddies cause you protected him
B. You are scum and he is not ( but protecting him has no worth)
C. He is scum and you are not (again protection has no worth)

So the logical conclusion would be... A.!
Good god, I figured it would be something like this. When he pressured you, you had made this terrible, useless claim and his vote was representative of the way most of us where feeling. I felt that his action was justified. So I said so when he was voted for. I would do the same for any player that I thought was being voted for for poor logic.

Long story short, the timing of the actions matters a lot, you hadn't really claimed when he voted for you.

On a different tangent these A, B or C things bother me. There are always other possibilities, they tend to just not be convenient for the argument. Your C is moronic, I have no way knowing his alignment. Or if you really must do a list like this at least attempt to cover all the bases, as is both of us are town. This being said, I have no idea what his alignment is, but it is just as likely as your other 3 options.
I Never said you knew his alignment. I just said he might be scum.

Basically the only reason you would protect each other is if you were scumbuddies.

Capiche?
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TheSaxlad wrote:
edocsil wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:My Bit O Logic. Kernov and me have already claimed. Sensfan is having a go at kernov without a reason so either

A. You and him are scumbuddies cause you protected him
B. You are scum and he is not ( but protecting him has no worth)
C. He is scum and you are not (again protection has no worth)

So the logical conclusion would be... A.!
Good god, I figured it would be something like this. When he pressured you, you had made this terrible, useless claim and his vote was representative of the way most of us where feeling. I felt that his action was justified. So I said so when he was voted for. I would do the same for any player that I thought was being voted for for poor logic.

Long story short, the timing of the actions matters a lot, you hadn't really claimed when he voted for you.

On a different tangent these A, B or C things bother me. There are always other possibilities, they tend to just not be convenient for the argument. Your C is moronic, I have no way knowing his alignment. Or if you really must do a list like this at least attempt to cover all the bases, as is both of us are town. This being said, I have no idea what his alignment is, but it is just as likely as your other 3 options.
I Never said you knew his alignment. I just said he might be scum.

Basically the only reason you would protect each other is if you were scumbuddies.

Capiche?
No not "Capiche" when you fail to have a basic understanding of a mafia game. Just because someone has a different opinion from you about the course of events does not in any way make them scum.
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As much as I'd hate to say it, Sax does have a point.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Commander9 wrote:As much as I'd hate to say it, Sax does have a point.
So any player who protects another is scum? Damn, would I hate to be a doc.
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edocsil wrote:So any player who protects another is scum? Damn, would I hate to be a doc.
No, of course not. However, sometimes that could be an indicator. Not saying that you're scum, but at least in my own wicked eyes, this does mean paying a bit more attention to you. That's about it.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Commander9 wrote:
edocsil wrote:So any player who protects another is scum? Damn, would I hate to be a doc.
No, of course not. However, sometimes that could be an indicator. Not saying that you're scum, but at least in my own wicked eyes, this does mean paying a bit more attention to you. That's about it.
Fair enough, that is an answer I can live with.

So in summary of the days events so far we have Kernov's claim, an investigator of sorts almost assuredly town, and then Sax and Flow being lovers with some unknown ability, most likely town, definitely not mafia.

Violet, Sensfan and Drabod have posted the least substance, but they have been fairly active so that is nothing damning at all
Tails and Commander have been playing cautiously, not really making a first move on a subject. Again on its own not scummy.

Lets just keep up the discussion, only way to find the enemy.
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sensfan wrote:That being said, we were all getting annoyed at sax and he did claim, Tails, the page before. A bad one, too, but he claimed, so I figured I would go for the risk. What else do you expect from me.


Hm yeah I missed that upon the first read. So I'll unvote since that was the only reason I voted for you.

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Very good post edocsil. However you left a few out:
00icon and Jeraado.
Could the three of you possibly be scummates?

I believe Jeraado has been posting regularly, but can't recall a recent post from 00icon. If there has been, then I apologize. Don't like to incorrectly accuse people of submarining.

Usually I get quite testy when people unfairly accuse me of being inactive or not posting enough substance of some sort However this game is different. I admit I haven't been posting much this game. On purpose.

For the time being I made the biggest move in the game. I voted Victor. I see he didn't count it though. Hmmm.

If I see this game becoming a stalemate, I might have to make an even bigger move.
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I liked you voting Victor Violet a very intresting neutral vote hmmm.
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VioIet wrote:Very good post edocsil. However you left a few out:
00icon and Jeraado.
Could the three of you possibly be scummates?

I believe Jeraado has been posting regularly, but can't recall a recent post from 00icon. If there has been, then I apologize. Don't like to incorrectly accuse people of submarining.

Usually I get quite testy when people unfairly accuse me of being inactive or not posting enough substance of some sort However this game is different. I admit I haven't been posting much this game. On purpose.

For the time being I made the biggest move in the game. I voted Victor. I see he didn't count it though. Hmmm.

If I see this game becoming a stalemate, I might have to make an even bigger move.
I thought the two of them posted a bit more but I didn't make a chart or anything so my mental count could be off. Also because they are rookies I am not expecting them to be the best scum sleuths out there, and BTW both of them have a post on the previous page.
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VioIet wrote:Very good post edocsil. However you left a few out:
00icon and Jeraado.
Could the three of you possibly be scummates?

I believe Jeraado has been posting regularly, but can't recall a recent post from 00icon. If there has been, then I apologize. Don't like to incorrectly accuse people of submarining.

Usually I get quite testy when people unfairly accuse me of being inactive or not posting enough substance of some sort However this game is different. I admit I haven't been posting much this game. On purpose.

For the time being I made the biggest move in the game. I voted Victor. I see he didn't count it though. Hmmm.

If I see this game becoming a stalemate, I might have to make an even bigger move.
Why havent you been posting on purpose? and What could this Bigger move be? Questions we possibly need to find out the answer to.
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Yup, I had my vote on kernov until he claimed, with FOS on Sax until he claimed as well. Since we should be able to verify kernov's claim tomorrow (game time) and since we now know that if Sax is scum then Flow must be as well, I don't really know where to look next. To me no-one else has really stood out, but I think I'll have a proper read of the thread from start to finish tonight (and maybe list a post-count as well)
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Oh that's great!!! Can't wait for you to post that. Then we can go to night 8-)
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VioIet wrote:Oh that's great!!! Can't wait for you to post that. Then we can go to night 8-)
Looking forward to night are we?
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edocsil wrote:
VioIet wrote:Oh that's great!!! Can't wait for you to post that. Then we can go to night 8-)
Looking forward to night are we?
Yes very much so. I'll be able to kill someone. 8-)
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Ok, I'll bite. Would you care to elaborate on these two posts?
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edocsil wrote:
VioIet wrote:Oh that's great!!! Can't wait for you to post that. Then we can go to night 8-)
Looking forward to night are we?
Yes very much so. I'll be able to kill someone. 8-)
VioIet wrote: For the time being I made the biggest move in the game. I voted Victor. I see he didn't count it though. Hmmm.

If I see this game becoming a stalemate, I might have to make an even bigger move.
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VioIet wrote:
edocsil wrote:
VioIet wrote:Oh that's great!!! Can't wait for you to post that. Then we can go to night 8-)
Looking forward to night are we?
Yes very much so. I'll be able to kill someone. 8-)
Wow, are you saying you have a NK ability VioIet? I concur with Haggis_McMutton, do elaborate...
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A pretty hefty claim of some sort by Violet, i also need more info.

Im sure scum would not be as upfront with such a claim, but this could be a bluff.

A BIG fos for violet if i dont get more it will be a vote.
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Oh come on people!
Are you all really this serious about it? Can't you take a small joke? She even added a smiley!

Despite this, Haggis's second quote still stands to be answered for.
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VioIet wrote:
edocsil wrote:
VioIet wrote:Oh that's great!!! Can't wait for you to post that. Then we can go to night 8-)
Looking forward to night are we?
Yes very much so. I'll be able to kill someone. 8-)

I Think she's joking guys...
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