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Remind me what is our justification for our lynch? Cause it isn't bandwagoning like you would desire to imply. And by the way, mafia members don't openly work together, at least not on the surface. Most players are better then that.JudahsLion wrote:wow...once again aage, edocsil, and Flow are in lock-step with eachother...
I seriously hope all the rest of the people playing are paying attention to that fact. That's the number one give-away for mafia...they stick up for eachother.
Just a message to all other players...they are starting to gang up on me since they know Ive got them figured out.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
Especially ones that are more on the vet side (Well not Flowedocsil wrote:Remind me what is our justification for our lynch? Cause it isn't bandwagoning like you would desire to imply. And by the way, mafia members don't openly work together, at least not on the surface. Most players are better then that.JudahsLion wrote:wow...once again aage, edocsil, and Flow are in lock-step with eachother...
I seriously hope all the rest of the people playing are paying attention to that fact. That's the number one give-away for mafia...they stick up for eachother.
Just a message to all other players...they are starting to gang up on me since they know Ive got them figured out.
). I don't think any of those 3 would align so closely as scum.Skoffin wrote: So um.. er... I'll be honest, I don't know what the f*ck to do from here. Goddamnit chu.
Obviously i dont have a rock solid case against Flow, and day 1 lynches are hard to justify. We can take this different ways...we can assume that the quiet people are the suspicious ones (sensfan and mass miracle)....we can assume that the people defending eachother are the suspicious ones (aage, edoc, and Flow)...or we can assume that the guy who is just trying to play the game is the suspicious one (me!).edocsil wrote:Remind me what is our justification for our lynch? Cause it isn't bandwagoning like you would desire to imply. And by the way, mafia members don't openly work together, at least not on the surface. Most players are better then that.JudahsLion wrote:wow...once again aage, edocsil, and Flow are in lock-step with eachother...
I seriously hope all the rest of the people playing are paying attention to that fact. That's the number one give-away for mafia...they stick up for eachother.
Just a message to all other players...they are starting to gang up on me since they know Ive got them figured out.
but there's no way 3 townies would act this way. I could understand one (as lovers) but not two.Fircoal wrote: I don't think any of those 3 would align so closely as scum.
Oh, sorry, I thout that the bold part said "or we can assume the guy who has been doing nothing but advocate a lynch based on some confusion around night 0 whilst following 5 others into this miracle plan of lynching someone who half-claims to be bulletproof is scummy". And imho, trying to lynch a suspected bulletproof guy is very scummy.JudahsLion wrote:Obviously i dont have a rock solid case against Flow, and day 1 lynches are hard to justify. We can take this different ways...we can assume that the quiet people are the suspicious ones (sensfan and mass miracle)....we can assume that the people defending eachother are the suspicious ones (aage, edoc, and Flow)...or we can assume that the guy who is just trying to play the game is the suspicious one (me!).
Right now I believe Aage, Edoc, and Flow are in bed together. Thats just my opinion though. Im not the only one that voted for Flow, so I dont see why I deserve to be put under the microscope by the suspicious 3. The only reason for it is that I am on to you and you want me gone.[
You are apparently eager to begin the lynching...yet you cast your vote for someone that no one else has voted for! Why wouldnt you just vote for Flow since he/she already has 6 votes so that we can, as you say, begin the lynching?!?
Flow (6)- Commander, LSU, Dazey, Judah, Kernov, Karel, [/b]
You're not half the bandwagoner Karel is but then again Karel isn't pursuing that we all should happily lynch Flow, and feel good about it, because OOEH that guy is scummy.
Seriously, sum up what he is scummy for. Let's see if you can get further than "he didn't get N0" and "after he got BW'd badly two guys stuck up for him".
jeraado wrote:I was getting ready to point the finger at judahs for being keen on the lynch, but aage and edocsil have been acting very suspiciously. The focus on flow wasn't so light that it wasn't worth investigating, yet each time it has been seriously raised, both aage and edocsil have been in quick as a flash to try and shift the focus back to the person asking the questions.
FOS aage
FOS edocsil
Although I'm less certain about Flow I still think that it is at least worth further investigation, so for now I remain
FOS Flow
I agree with this:but there's no way 3 townies would act this way. I could understand one (as lovers) but not two.Fircoal wrote: I don't think any of those 3 would align so closely as scum.
I agree there has been some sort of odd OR scummy behaviour from the 3 of them, im not sure if this worthy of a lynch tho just to find out.
What i would suggest is more pressure on flow, 1. to get more info out of him 2. to see if more reaction from Aage and Edoc.
Lets try to use the last few days wisely i dont want a townie out ive seen how easy it is to make a bad lynch.
So the only question in my mind is which of those three to vote for. I am going to vote edocsil for two reasons - 1) edocsil so far has always been the follow-up poster. Aage casts suspicion and edocsil adds the groupthink, and 2) edocsil was the one to ask for a time limit, which by itself isnt a bad idea, but for someone who is filibustering possibly a way to try and force a no-lynch? I'm pretty new to this, but it seems that no-lynch provides more benefit to the scum than it does to us
So to sum up - vote edocsil
although if we have a quorum on flow then I will change
Now lets see how long it takes the three musketeers to try and shift the focus again
L-2 isn't good enough for you? What the hell?kernov wrote:Sorry i messed my quoting up there ^ , heres my bit,
I agree there has been some sort of odd OR scummy behaviour from the 3 of them, im not sure if this worthy of a lynch tho just to find out.
What i would suggest is more pressure on flow, 1. to get more info out of him 2. to see if more reaction from Aage and Edoc.
Lets try to use the last few days wisely i dont want a townie out ive seen how easy it is to make a bad lynch.
aage wrote:L-2 isn't good enough for you? What the hell?kernov wrote:Sorry i messed my quoting up there ^ , heres my bit,
I agree there has been some sort of odd OR scummy behaviour from the 3 of them, im not sure if this worthy of a lynch tho just to find out.
What i would suggest is more pressure on flow, 1. to get more info out of him 2. to see if more reaction from Aage and Edoc.
Lets try to use the last few days wisely i dont want a townie out ive seen how easy it is to make a bad lynch.
What you do not seem to understand is that there isn't much more pressure to add. Right now it's this or a lynch, and if we lynch flow, we'll know why he shouldn't have been lynched. I'd rather be safe than sorry. Especially since there are other suspicious people who need looking into, i.e. the people who blew up the whole "flow thing". Believe me, in any other game the remark would've flown (tee-hee) by as if nothing had happened, but in here some people don't seem to grasp that a person actually can be interested in something that doesn't have to do with him/her.kernov wrote:aage wrote:L-2 isn't good enough for you? What the hell?
Seems we where right guys , keep the votes on flow! just because Aage is at it again im still not sure hes a bad boy.
Either that or Aage is on the stamppot again
The last two lines are the most important. We have separately looked at flow's actions and Judas's actions and found one to slightly curious and the other to be scum.aage wrote:... but in here some people don't seem to grasp that a person actually can be interested in something that doesn't have to do with him/her.
As for the accusations of jeraado, well you really should have looked at the timeline before you voted for me, the logic would have fit aage's actions better then mine, as I was the firsts to vote for Judas way back on page 10, although my vote was never counted, even though I prodded the mod about it.jeraado wrote:I was getting ready to point the finger at judahs for being keen on the lynch, but aage and edocsil have been acting very suspiciously. The focus on flow wasn't so light that it wasn't worth investigating, yet each time it has been seriously raised, both aage and edocsil have been in quick as a flash to try and shift the focus back to the person asking the questions.
So the only question in my mind is which of those three to vote for. I am going to vote edocsil for two reasons - 1) edocsil so far has always been the follow-up poster. Aage casts suspicion and edocsil adds the groupthink, and 2) edocsil was the one to ask for a time limit, which by itself isnt a bad idea, but for someone who is filibustering possibly a way to try and force a no-lynch? I'm pretty new to this, but it seems that no-lynch provides more benefit to the scum than it does to us
And then the followup post.edocsil wrote:..Says the mafiaJudahsLion wrote:...says the mafiaFlow520 wrote:I think most of us would rather take our time so we have better chance of actually lynching scum.
Vote JudahsLion
I also am by no means "filibustering" I am try my damnedest to get Judas lynched for his repeated actions. The idea with a deadline is it forces action, we will should still have a lynch by the end of the day if the ones who are hiding come out of the woodwork. If they don't come out when there was a deadline they really should be replaced.edocsil wrote: M8 the logic was so self evident I didn't think it needed an explanation beyond a repeat of the word of judas. Why on earth would we not want to take our time and proceed with a careful lynch? Rushing ends with a dead townie, no leads D2, and dead townies in the night. Understand now why I voted for him? If he wasn't joking he may as well of held up a sign. If he was joking, he is risking his life for a laugh.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
Im not "Pushing for a fast lynch". Im simply "Pushing" to get the freaking game going. If people were posting adequately, it wouldnt be a fast lynch. Good God, its been how many days now? I hardly call it a fast lynch. The Mod had to step in and give us a deadline cuz you guys are dragging your feet. all I did was try to get everyone to realize that Flow was the most suspicious at that point in the game...and I ORIGINALLY voted for LSU JOSH!!! I changed my vote to Flow. If I was pushing for a quick lynch then I just wouldve tried to make a case against LSU.LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Unvote vote Judah pushing for a fast lynch is scummy in nature especially when it was really weak evidence against them to start.
edocsil wrote:The last two lines are the most important. We have separately looked at flow's actions and Judas's actions and found one to slightly curious and the other to be scum.aage wrote:... but in here some people don't seem to grasp that a person actually can be interested in something that doesn't have to do with him/her.
By this logic if you lynch me you will find that I am town, and the "We" that you are refering to as collaborating would also likely be town. Conversely the "obvious" pair of you and Kernov will appear decidedly not town for pressing so hard for the lynch when more experienced players are screaming at you that I'm not scum. Go ahead, dig your own graves... Regardless of if you and Kernov are town or scum, your arguments are just going to get you lynched, and rather quickly...JudahsLion wrote:This is the curious thing about you, which obviously Kernov and I both see...is all this "We" talk. you are subtly acknolwedging that you two are collaborationg. You three are WAY more suspicious than any one else right now.
last post on 24th Nov , in what exactly?sensfan wrote:oh boy! im in then!
Now, now, I completely disagree - first lynch doesn't have to be random at all... You just have to pay attention... And take a look at people who are wanting a random lynch without any good reasons.JudahsLion wrote:it looks like we are still waiting for 5 people to get off their lazy keister and cast a vote.
At this point no one is really talking except about things non-mafia related, and our only "suspicious" person is Flow. If youre sitting on the fence right now, let me say that Flow has to be the first lynch becuase quite frankly the first kill is always kinda random and its the only person worthy of death at this point. Once we get the 9 votes we need, we will be able to progress to the next day where we will actually find out some useful information for once. We will see 2 people die (probably), and we may get information from a cop.
Also, if you take the word "Flow" and flip it around, it spells "Wolf". What do wolves do? They kill people. Case closed.
This.aage wrote:Fircoal, you of all should know. Dethy mafia also has a N0 and the mafia doesn't get a kill.
Also, let's look at this:IF you have a night 0 action, it specifically says. idk but I think the mafia didn't have a pm that said "you have a n1 action. you have a n2 action. you have a n3 action." It probably said something like "you can kill at night". It might have mentioned N0; only the mafia would know.the moderationing awesomeness wrote: 14 people have confirmed so far. Most in this thread; a few by pm. However even if you confirmed your role by pm, remember to post in here as well. With that said....
Night 0 Began!!!
If you have a night 0 action, submit it in to me. As soon as all actions are in or 24 hours have passed- whichever comes first- Day 1 will begin.
And knowing the game, I don't think they'll tell us
Agree. Even if we will lynch a townie, it's always a good idea to have some substance that we could look back afterwards and perhaps we might see something that while still at D1 didn't make much sense, could be a good argument for a later use.jeraado wrote:We want to get as much information as possible before actually making a lynch. The odds are that a day 1 lynch will turn up a townie, but the more information we have the more likely we are going to be able to pick up on who is actually scum. Even if we don't make a wrong lynch on day 1, if we've at least picked up some leads we can consider what happens on subsequent days, whereas if we jump into the first lynch that comes along, then the chances are on day 2 we'll still not have much to go on.
Don't forget that we've got both mafia and prisoners, so this could be a combination of two factions....Flow520 wrote:The whole idea of "the three musketeers" is just silly.
The post I made previously included quotes expressing great suspicion of Judah by Fircoal, aage, edocsil, and kernov. Add that the reasons Tails used to vote for Judah and you have a 6 person group.
What seems more scummy to me is the manner in which kernov flips and flops depending on whichever way the suspicion is blowing.
